How strong is kratom compared to hydro/oxy...

[LaughinFit]

You should get it by the ounce. I got 4 ounces once. It kicks in quickly (20min or less!) and lasts about 6-7 hours until effects are un-noticable.

 

[blase deviant]

This is bullshit. I just took 8 grams of 10x and notice nothing except a slight itch.

I doubt I can get a refund either.

 

[blase deviant]

Why would I get good effects one time, and no effects another time, if I waited at least a week between usages?

 

[sonic]

^ If you waited a week, depending on what else you took, it shouldn't be a tolerance issue. It could have just been set/setting.

 

[LaughinFit]

I think I want to order an ounce of crushed leaf to cut my alcohol consumption as I work out and eat healthier for the summer. I have alot of sand dune climbing and camping/hiking to do. I think I might even get new tires for my old GT Vertigo freestyle chrome edition. One gear will make it a bitch on the hills

When I'm on kratom, it feels way better than hydrocodone. If I were to taper off ethanol to about 1-2 drinks/day (moderate for a healthy male)...will there be any hepatic/liver damage from the kratom? It's not like it's mixed with binders and acetametophin right

 

[MDPVagrant]

When I'm on kratom, it feels way better than hydrocodone. If I were to taper off ethanol to about 1-2 drinks/day (moderate for a healthy male)...will there be any hepatic/liver damage from the kratom? It's not like it's mixed with binders and acetametophin right

Doubtful, but kratom isn't exactly well-studied stuff. Been used for a long time among indigenous peoples, but it's not all that well studied scientifically. Almost like a research chemical (RC) in that way.

 

[LaughinFit]

^True!

Stupid DEA and lack of research. It's on their list of "warning chemicals" so I see it being banned in the distant (3 year) future. I have always found it very subtle both psychologically and physiologically.