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Yeah, I can understand the bit about breaking the fourth wall and using a celebrity - it seems a bit cheap for a series that's done so well at elevating complete unknowns into stardom. In general I think they should avoid this. It's not as if they needed any more publicity for the show!

Nevertheless, can't wait to watch it in a few episode's time!!! :)
 
Nevertheless, can't wait to watch it in a few episode's time!!! :)

You catching up again? I started from season one last week, but couldn't bare waiting once I knew it was out. Kind of wish I'd started a few weeks back now. But yeah, it's very good. =D

Yeah, I can understand the bit about breaking the fourth wall and using a celebrity - it seems a bit cheap for a series that's done so well at elevating complete unknowns into stardom. In general I think they should avoid this. It's not as if they needed any more publicity for the show!

Yeah exactly, it was very cheap, and like I said earlier, antithetical to what the series (and the books) seem to stand for. The reason most of us love Game of Thrones is because it's taken huge leap forward from shitty formulaic big budget film/tv. It's complex and gritty (and fucking huge!). It doesn't need x factor to come to town; quite literally.

That said I am simply elated about the forthcoming season eight cameos from pat sharp and the chuckle brothers.
 
Oh yes. It's going to be just great for the producers to bring a more jovial and whacky edge to otherwise sombre characters such as the white walkers.

Keep it on the downlow but I've heard that bodger and badger are really going to mix things up in kings landing.
 
^Yip, certainly. However, I don't think that the likes of Jerome Flynn, who was in the 90's band Robson & Jerome, could really be considered as essentially amounting to a huge commercial product with huge amounts of sway and value. Jerome Flynn is principally an actor who released some singles in the 90's, whereas Ed Sheeran is one of the biggest pop stars on the planet right now, of X-factor et al, fame. The scene with Ed Sheeran was practically endorsing him with a wink and a nudge, which I see as very crass. It was just Ed Sheeran (a product) in some knights armour, singing an Ed Sheeran song (... "it's a new one"). The same can't really be said for the other cameos and/or famous actors playing roles.

Anyway, it appears that people are very polarised on this. Don't get me wrong, it's not as if I'm hugely bothered, but I do consider it very cheesy/cringey/trite, and ultimately lacking in integrity. Some may well see it as innocent but I can't help but think that it reeks of shaky hand commercialisation, which I think is evidenced by the fact on Tuesday it was announced that Ed Sheeran will also feature in an episode of the simpsons. I can just imagine the way in which his agents secure these kind of deals; what better way to raise the profile of your product, whether it be an HBO television series, an ageing cartoon or the latest pop sensation, than to mix them together, whether they really go together or not.
 
It wasn't an Ed Sheeran song he was singing. It was a song from one of the later books. The song was about Tyrion and Shae's relationship... Songs about the current royalty of the world being a common thing in Westeros (i.e. the more famous "Rains of Castamere"). The "it's a new one" wasn't a wink to the screen breaking the fourth wall. The song was literally new to the world of the show.

Snow Patrol was also on the show. They're arguably a bigger band than Ed Sheeran. Didn't see a single person jump on the complaining bandwagon then.
 
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I wonder if the people complaining about Ed Sheeran realize various musicians have made a dozen appearances on the show before

from the above link said:
Dr. Feelgood's Wilko Johnson: Multiple episodes, Seasons 1 - 2
Wilko Johnson, guitarist of the legendary pub-rock band Dr. Feelgood, was diagnosed with cancer in 2013, which interrupted his role of the executioner Ser Illyn Payne, the man known for removing Ned Stark's head. Silent and grim, Johnson made the perfect Payne, even though he established his fame with his skills on the six-string axe rather than the sword.

sorry if this is a little off-topic, but i really fucking love wilko johnson (the guitarist in this band)

 
It wasn't an Ed Sheeran song he was singing. It was a song from one of the later books. The song was about Tyrion and Shae's relationship... Songs about the current royalty of the world being a common thing in Westeros (i.e. the more famous "Rains of Castamere"). The "it's a new one" wasn't a wink to the screen breaking the fourth wall. The song was literally new to the world of the show.

Snow Patrol was also on the show. They're arguably a bigger band than Ed Sheeran. Didn't see a single person jump on the complaining bandwagon then.

I am aware that the song is from the book (admittedly only because it has been mentioned in the various articles/debates I've read these past few days), but the point is that it is an Ed Sheeran song in that it is completely typical of him and is being sung by him. He could do a rendition of pretty much any song (especially something folky such as this), as he has done before, and it would still be an Ed Sheeran song. I'd say that the "it's a new one" was clearly implied as a cheesy wink & nudge... and even if it wasn't, you'd expect the producers to have considered whether it would be taken as such by the public. If not, then it was somewhat of an oversight given the evident backlash.

And I guess the reason that most people didn't complain about Snow Patrol is because they didn't recognise the guy from Snow Patrol, and if they do, they didn't see him as a pop brand, which is the whole point. Perhaps it's more of a UK thing but Ed Sheeran is frequently plastered all over magazine/newspaper covers/tv/radio etc, ergo it is different. He is clearly a brand... Gary Lightbody from snow patrol, not so much. Brands have have their time; I'm sure if Ed Sheeran did a cameo in thirty years well after he was at his peak, then it would be more of a "who's he again? Oh, him." type thing. As it stands, that is not the case.

To me this is just pandering to the mainstream, to the detriment of the immersion. Again, I'm not massively bothered, although I do hope he doesn't play any kind of remotely important part in upcoming episodes.
 
Maybe that is the difference, I barely know who Ed Sheeran is, but I don't pay much attention to mainstream music media...

That said, I did recognize him, but his performance didn't strike me as cheesy. But I didn't have any pre-existing ire for the guy.
 
^I do think that this is probably the main difference. I don't pay any attention to main stream media/music either (I actively avoid it), yet I've still somehow been bombarded with the guy, and I guess that's indicative of the power he holds. He does seem like he's probably a decent person, and is probably talented, but to my ears his music is really shit. I'm hardly one for pop ballads/whatever though.
 
Yeah, I'd have no idea who Ed Sheeran is as I've never seen a pic and don't think I've ever heard any of his music either. But what I do know is people like to build their celebrities up, then once the hype's over, knock them back down.
 
So does Arya get to use the faces on the wall again? (Wilder Frey scene last week)
 
That episode was pure plot rushing.

I mean it's good that there attempting to speed up the story lines but it did make me laugh. I wasn't a fan of the ship battle scene though. It felt really tacky for some reason.
 
That episode was pure plot rushing.

I mean it's good that there attempting to speed up the story lines but it did make me laugh. I wasn't a fan of the ship battle scene though. It felt really tacky for some reason.

there's only like 15 episodes left total? both season 7 and season 8 are short seasons. i think we'll need to get used to a lot of plot rushing. :(
 
watched episode 4 - 'the spoils of war' and i think it was the best episode of the season so far.

i pretty much lost it when [spoil]arya and sansa saw each other again[/spoil] and the [spoil]dothraki and dragons attacking the lannister army[/spoil] was just epic.

alasdair
 
watched episode 4 - 'the spoils of war' and i think it was the best episode of the season so far.

i'd say top 5 all time, easily.

I loved the part where Bran repeated the line "chaos is a ladder" and it shook little finger.
 
I think littlefinger was creaming his pants when Arya was fighting Breanne in Winterfell in front of Sansa and Littlefinger.
 
simply the best episode so far. There was a lot of building up with a lead up to something big you were expecting with the previous three episodes and thankfully we were not let down. I re-watched the episode a few times. They did it really well. Could not fault anything wrong with the episode.
Mondays are turning into my favourite day of the week.
 
This season has actually been really good so far. I was losing faith in the show after how many questionable moments occured in season 5 and how mostly terrible season 6 was.

Usually once a show starts going down the shitter it follows that death-spiral into the sewer, but GoT has somehow managed to pull itself out of the toilet bowl. That never happens.
 
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