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Feds Move to ban "Fake Pot"

damn, i haven't smoked this stuff before, but i have always wanted to try it. to bad :(
 
chinky said:
I love how I can get people I don't know so mad..
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maybe its because your like most people here in the city....RUUUUUDEEEEEEE and uninformed of anything but trashy cracky drugs. little 14yr olds do heroin nowadays you know this right? I hope or are u already nodding or on a street corner.....or meeting up with a phone connect meeting in a sketchy area....


I took a hit of k2 ONCE and though it didnt even do shit.......and it didnt but it took away some anxiety.......heroin ruins lives
 
I dont care at this point if the substance gets banned or not it has already done its damage to me, but I do care about research being done on it. I want them to study it and determine is there is any long term damage or what it can do to the brain and body.
 
If pots illegal, that shit NEEDS to be. Especially spice, it makes you so much more spacier, and you cannot CANNOT drive on that shit
 
hopefully they don't just lock all of this stuff in a vault and throw away the key.. i think a lot of the jwh derivatives are promising, but we certainly shouldn't be smoking them in combination with "herbal blends" that have the potential to create unknown carcinogens via combustion
 
Makes sense though seeing how many states have medical marijuana now that is taxed and regulated. If you wanna smoke weed wait for your state to legalize it, or move to Cali and pay $60 or whatever to get a weed card cos you had a bad hair day
 
So when this passes there will be no more "herbal incense" right. Since the authorities will view "herbal incense" as a slang for jwh-018 regardless of whats in it. Selling jwh-018 or representing something as a product that contained it is the same as selling the illegal compound.

My point being in the eyes of the government herbal incenses = jwh-018
New herbal incense blends with (legal cannabiniod) = jwh-018 - to the government
Selling new herbal blends = selling jwh-018 = same crime
Odds are you would have to fight to prove it wasnt jwh-018 after being arrested and all the legal non-sense that goes with having a schedule one drug.

So my point being "herbal incense" is now schedule one like selling sugar as cocaine is illegal.
What does everyone think on the government viewing it as "herbal incenses sold by gram quanities are jwh-018." regardless of whats in them?
 
i quit weed because of panic attacks so i never tried the jwh range. Do they differ like piperazines do ie tfmpp on its own is not really enjoyable but is a proper ratio of at least 2 of them needed for a nice buzz? or are they all nice on there own, with subtle differences or huge differences?

anyone in australia tried these?
 
szuko000 said:
So when this passes there will be no more "herbal incense" right. Since the authorities will view "herbal incense" as a slang for jwh-018 regardless of whats in it. Selling jwh-018 or representing something as a product that contained it is the same as selling the illegal compound.

My point being in the eyes of the government herbal incenses = jwh-018
New herbal incense blends with (legal cannabiniod) = jwh-018 - to the government
Selling new herbal blends = selling jwh-018 = same crime
Odds are you would have to fight to prove it wasnt jwh-018 after being arrested and all the legal non-sense that goes with having a schedule one drug.

So my point being "herbal incense" is now schedule one like selling sugar as cocaine is illegal.
What does everyone think on the government viewing it as "herbal incenses sold by gram quanities are jwh-018." regardless of whats in them?
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Or if you are in possession, just deny that there is anything in it at all, besides herbs, and let them prove that something besides plain regular herbs is in it.

They cant charge you with having laced herbs if they dont detect any.
 
ShitKebab said:
Makes sense though seeing how many states have medical marijuana now that is taxed and regulated. If you wanna smoke weed wait for your state to legalize it, or move to Cali and pay $60 or whatever to get a weed card cos you had a bad hair day
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$200 is typical, unless you know somebody.
 
Sentience said:
Do you actually mean 'Authoritarianism'? Socialism means worker or peasant control of the means of production....which could be an ANARCHIST society where all drugs are legal.....I would almost argue that state Communism is not even socialist, because the common people do not truly control the means of production, the state or party does.

You can also have fairly right-wing brands of authoritarianism, like fascism.
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haha is it even worth arguing with some people..
 
Sentience said:
Or if you are in possession, just deny that there is anything in it at all, besides herbs, and let them prove that something besides plain regular herbs is in it.

They cant charge you with having laced herbs if they dont detect any.
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My little brother is currently being tried for "possession of a fire arm" when the police didnt find a gun on him (long story). But not in possession of a gun and we are currently fighting unlawful carry. The lawyers laughed we are hoping the rest of the court system does. This has cost us over 20,000 dollars so far. \

He did not have what they charged him with and we are fighting the charge. Its been over a year. Dont think because they have to prove it they wont arrest you first.
 
Well im guessing that if and when it is banned, then might as well get the real stuff.........unless someone is on drug tests, do the synthetic opioids show up as THC on a drug test? Or will it show up as something else?
 
Eddygunz said:
Well im guessing that if and when it is banned, then might as well get the real stuff.........unless someone is on drug tests, do the synthetic opioids show up as THC on a drug test? Or will it show up as something else?
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they dont show up but i heard soon there will be jwh-018/073 tests being put out but that doesn't really matter anymore since it's all going to be illegal anyway.
 
kristur said:
Fuck the people that use drugs recklessly.
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I do agree fuck the people that abuse drugs, but I took a small puff of this stuff and it fucked my over so bad. I barely had any of it and it has made my life a living hell since I smoked. From what I have read is that the prepackaged blends are not sprayed in a even coat and you really don't know what you are getting, though when i did it i thought it was tobacco. I would have never purchased this stuff on my own and I was with a friend that bought it. I made the mistake of thinking it was safe since it was legal. I wish I would have read the back of the label about the "Not for human consumption."
 
Fuck the DEA

Sentience said:
$200 is typical, unless you know somebody.
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$200 for a medical marijuana recommendation? Fuck bro you're getting ripped off. A local doctor advertises for $60 in my local newspaper...and I'm in Kern County, California (as conservative a county as they come).

With regard to the ban on *some* of the JWH series (and similar compounds): this ban clearly shows that the DEA, and the Federal Gov't, are nothing short of reactionist when it comes to psychoactive chemicals.

But then again, you already knew that...:eek:
 
Around here (Boise, ID) those who are on probation with regular drug testing get tested for 'spice' and I know people who are in jail for testing positive for it...If you're going to do something stupid like that, and end up going to jail, why don't you just smoke some real weed...It'd make it more worth it.

I personally don't care about spice, and wouldn't smoke or buy it if it were offered to me. It smells like a camp fire.
 
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