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Opioids Desomorphine (Krokodil) experiences?

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im staying away from opiates but if i cooked it or saw it cooked in front of me and then the reaction mixture was cleaned up acceptably i would try it. not something id make a habit of though.

wonder do some people take it orally?
 
They're always inferring there's a plague about to sweep the nation, and it's usually based on one or two isolated incidents; it's like they want to keep people in constant state of horror, and homebrew desomorphine fits the bill nicely: it's scary.

Course, as the article pointed out, Americans are wealthier in general, and have access to quality heroin, not to mention a shit-load of opiate pharmaceuticals - they also have access to bupe and meth, which the Russians didn't. It's for these reasons a widespread "plague" of krokodil is extremely unlikely.
 
Looks like this little thread made the news http://www.vocativ.com/10-2013/krokodil-flesh-rotting-horror-coming-plague/?utm_source=taboolattp://

Also good to see these pricks only selectively quoted "positive" posts rather than the 90% advising against it & offering constructive advice.

Of course, people always make things sound the way they want other people to hear it.

A number of voices suggest they'd test the drug if prepared correctly.

But really, did they expect that nobody wants to try it? Then why is it spreading in the first place? And obviously, if it can be purified, people will try that out of curiousity. Then it's good with some help from other people who are interested in it or have done it themselves.
 
Looks like this little thread made the news http://www.vocativ.com/10-2013/krokodil-flesh-rotting-horror-coming-plague/?utm_source=taboolattp://

Also good to see these pricks only selectively quoted "positive" posts rather than the 90% advising against it & offering constructive advice.

Interesting, I actually never even knew that the RU domain name meant it was Russian, but I don't see why that is a point the author of that article needs to bring up. Maybe if he elaborated on what significance it had it would be nice, aside from just saying its a Russian domain name as if its a bad thing. No where is there mention that this sight is a "drug forum" dedicated to HARM REDUCTION, nope its just a "drug forum" with at least 2 people insane enough to try Desomorphine that they synthesized cleanly. And whats with the Breaking Bad references in articles about this stuff, they don't even make sense.
 
I was segued onto the page from a sidebar but the article at no time mentioned the dozens of harm reduction posts. That is irresponsible from the blog writer.
 
If you're gonna synth opies, do 6-acetylmorphine or something better than deso, wth is with this...
 
Looks like this little thread made the news http://www.vocativ.com/10-2013/krokodil-flesh-rotting-horror-coming-plague/?utm_source=taboolattp://

Also good to see these pricks only selectively quoted "positive" posts rather than the 90% advising against it & offering constructive advice.

There's a reason why London hooligans massacre journalists rather then lawyers, policemen or doctors. They can interview up to 100 people and discard all their testimonies until they interview someone who says what they want to hear, then they display that person and with media coverage amp it up like that's the only opinion around. They are the social chameleon, they have to reflect back what society thinks about people taking drugs:

- They are selfish and immoral, choosing drugs over their family and children.
- They all die of a painful death that they righteously deserve and that they brought upon themselves.
- They are like animals, not being able to control themselves.
- They would stab their mother and father for fix money.
- They need our help to be saved from their own misery and deprivation.

Anyone reading the article will feel superior because they haven't taken a drug. They also feel hate for the person who has taken the drug, for, how dared he attempt to have a better life then themselves? It is a selfish hate that addicts try to appease by saying they did it to deal with family problems and sorrow. Then society has a little more compassion. As soon as someone says he did it for fun and he would do it again, society would put him to the wall and shoot him if they could. They are all thinking it. It's like the deep hate someone feels when they see someone drive a ferrari. They would burn his car and skin the person alive if it was in their power to do so. So who is more immoral and depraved?

It's all good though. By lying to society, encouraging society to lie to itself and only showing the tip of the iceberg without knowing what lies beneath, Americans can better accept their shit life by comparison, and keep on working 60 hours a week without seeking any peace that would affect their productivity. Americans must produce in order to buy things they don't need. It is a must, it's how economy works, or used to work. The federal reserve keeps printing more dollars to deal with the debt, they need hard working Americans more then ever. How could the rich stay rich otherwise?

All these drug reports are like a pornographic masturbation instruction material for social order. People like to masturbate their perception of the world because it helps them deal with their own issues and makes their own life more acceptable.
 
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^Wow 1 short of 1000 posts, you can do it man!

If you're gonna synth opies, do 6-acetylmorphine or something better than deso, wth is with this...

Ya sure, but don't you need morphine rather than codeine and harder to come by ingredients to synthesize 6-MAM from morphine? I know I have read differing opinions of whether 99% acetic acid can do the job, rather than needing an anhydrous solution. From reading up on it many say the best you can hope for is a small % of an acetate synthesized from morphine with an acid rather than an anhydride.
 
^Wow 1 short of 1000 posts, you can do it man!



Ya sure, but don't you need morphine rather than codeine and harder to come by ingredients to synthesize 6-MAM from morphine? I know I have read differing opinions of whether 99% acetic acid can do the job, rather than needing an anhydrous solution. From reading up on it many say the best you can hope for is a small % of an acetate synthesized from morphine with an acid rather than an anhydride.

done ^^
 
there's absolutely nothing i can add to this thread that hasn't already been said, other than another plus one to common consensus.

speaking as someone who's IV'd (and still does fairly frequently) H, coke, mdma, speed, benzos and gin, plenty of times, very often in heavy combinations, i don't think there is any reason whatsoever why getting into krokodil is in ANY way advisable. please, please don't. it is an unbelievably scary drug which i wish didn't exist.
 
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It should go without saying; using homebrew krokodil is a very dangerous thing to do. Saying that, I'm honestly surprised at the amount of people who want to do it - many want to "clean up" the drug to make it safer. Much easier said than done; to create pharmaceutically pure desomorphine from codeine, you'd need some serious lab equipment, not to mention a fair amount of chemistry expertise. Also, the only formulas I've seen for krokodil are for the crude, homebrew versions of the drug; good luck trying to get a clean drug from that source material.
 
I can't believe you people are surprised it's finally broken out in the U.S. I'm surprised it's taken this long, actually. Why do people share needles? They feel like hell and they are rolling the dice, thinking it'll only be this once. After enough "successful" experiences they're even more willing to do it. I've used Oxy that I picked up out of a puddle of piss. And I used to be a super-pussy-germ-freak. Of course people will use Krokodil. They'll be thinking, "it's only this week to save money; it's just this one bag until my dealer re-ups with real H; it's probably not as bad as they make it out, etc"

What scares me the most is dealers selling Krokodil as genuine Smack, they way they do Fentanyl. I've never seen Krok, so I wouldn't know how to tell them apart.
 
Speaking of that does anyone have links to any pictures of desomorphine? It would definately be usefull for heroin addicts to be able to distinguish between the two in the very unlikelyhood that some retard scum decides to make this shit with some tylenol 3's or some other codeine product. The article makes it sound like because codeine isn't over the counter that its very unlikely but tbh, codeine is one of the easiest painkillers to get sans vicoden.
 
A picture of desomorphine won't be of much good. I've had tan soft powder heroin, I've had tan rocks and tan sandy shit. I've had white soft powder and white rocks. Grey powders, grey rocks with blue-ish flecks. I've seen soft tar and hard tar. I can only imagine what do called cheese h looks like. What's European number three look like? What do you suppose a picture of some random powder will help anyone out?
 
The only time I've seen it was footage of addicts injecting it; it was an off-white solution, almost milky. I don't think it's even available as a powder, and it's said to have a strong, bitter reek of chemicals, so the chance of getting tricked into buying this instead of heroin are pretty slim.

Besides, having an immediate abcess form if you miss even the slightest part of the shot should be a bit of a giveaway.
 
Some prick is going around to after-hours clubs selling it krokodil or as MDMA around Dallas. I'm want to know about it so I can warn my friends who frequently uses some form of X & also I have been IV heroin on & off for a few months now. Should I be worried about that being sold as H too? Anyways does anyone know what it looks like or any identifying features about it? Not looking to do it, just trying to keep myself and my fellow substance abusers away from the stuff.
 
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