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Coke in europe

...and likesay the Albanians are the new kids on the block and have exploded their control of the market in Europe by setting up in South America and buying it there and shipping it back here themselves, bringing it in through the Ndranghetta controlled port in Calabria.
 
Well the UK average purity is almost bang on 50%.

The EMCDDA quotes 53-68% for the EU but I note the prices were 38-135 euro/gram.

So even the stuff people swear blind is pure... is not. I mean, I imagine their are specialist dealers who sell to the rich and famous who get high purity stuff, but I wonder if it's because it comes that pure of if they employ someone to clean it?
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
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Interesting.. if I were distributing it id role 80% pure with all cuts being safe and H20 soluble. Coke has been such a long running shit show.. Mexicans.. maybe the Albanians can get it straitened out.

Also from BL coke in Australia is total garbage.

In the States allot of people have went to amphetamine salts.. way better drug for users and society. It should be prescribed to cocaine addicts imo. It will be the "cure" for many people.
 
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In Barcelona we have tons of coke, and good one, it come from central and Southwest América vía spain-galicia.I dont know the purity but is high. Only you have to have a good dealer that dont cut it.
I lived in towns where coke was cut, all marroquíes are the dealer, plenty of them.
Nowadays I have a good dealer that have good quality coke.
 
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I literally just told you that it comes back at 80-90%

I.e you wash it up…and you get back 80-90-% of the weight you washed up
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Yeah - and NO weight comparison.

If you didn't know, freebasing was originally used as a purity test. So 1 gram of 50% pure coke gave (just under) 500mg of pure freebase cocaine.

Is this really so difficult to understand? They used diethyl ether because almost all cuts, even in their freebase form(s) (where applicable) . were not soluble in diethyl ether. So they salted it with hydrochloric acid, dried it and could weigh it.

I don't use the term 'crack' because that often fails to remove impurities... so quoting purity levels is of no value whatsoever. Had it tested? I actually have some cocaine purity testing kits. PM me and you can have 5 gratis.
 
Fertile said:
Yeah - and NO weight comparison.

If you didn't know, freebasing was originally used as a purity test. So 1 gram of 50% pure coke gave (just under) 500mg of pure freebase cocaine.

Is this really so difficult to understand? They used diethyl ether because almost all cuts, even in their freebase form(s) (where applicable) . were not soluble in diethyl ether. So they salted it with hydrochloric acid, dried it and could weigh it.

I don't use the term 'crack' because that often fails to remove impurities... so quoting purity levels is of no value whatsoever. Had it tested? I actually have some cocaine purity testing kits. PM me and you can have 5 gratis.
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Dude…what are you not understanding here? I’m really trying not to be rude….

The weight you get back is 80-90% of the weight you wash up, and as such you can tell that this is the approximate purity (a small number of cuts will wash up with the cocaine but for the most part you can ignore that as if you look at seized coke samples those cuts are actually pretty rare). E.g you wash up 1g you will get .8-.9g back. You wash up 10g you will get 8-9g back. You wash up 100g you will get 80-90g back. You wash up 1kg you will get 800-900g back.

The whole point of a percentage is that it describes the size of something as a ratio of itself to the thing that it is being compared to so that you don’t have to write out all the individual numbers each time and it can be scaled across any size.
 
Fried - if you cannot see it, I cannot explain it any more clearly.

But as I said, I'm happy to give you 5 cocaine purity testing tests gratis. Just weigh what you start with and measure purity. Then freebase, check weight and purity.

If the weight stays the same, purity will not increase.
 
THECATINTHEHAT said:
Dude…what are you not understanding here? I’m really trying not to be rude….
THECATINTHEHAT said:
Dude…what are you not understanding here? I’m really trying not to be rude….

The weight you get back is 80-90% of the weight you wash up, and as such you can tell that this is the approximate purity (a small number of cuts will wash up with the cocaine but for the most part you can ignore that as if you look at seized coke samples those cuts are actually pretty rare). E.g you wash up 1g you will get .8-.9g back. You wash up 10g you will get 8-9g back. You wash up 100g you will get 80-90g back. You wash up 1kg you will get 800-900g back.

The whole point of a percentage is that it describes the size of something as a ratio of itself to the thing that it is being compared to so that you don’t have to write out all the individual numbers each time and it can be scaled across any size.
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The weight you get back is 80-90% of the weight you wash up, and as such you can tell that this is the approximate purity (a small number of cuts will wash up with the cocaine but for the most part you can ignore that as if you look at seized coke samples those cuts are actually pretty rare). E.g you wash up 1g you will get .8-.9g back. You wash up 10g you will get 8-9g back. You wash up 100g you will get 80-90g back. You wash up 1kg you will get 800-900g back.

The whole point of a percentage is that it describes the size of something as a ratio of itself to the thing that it is being compared to so that you don’t have to write out all the individual numbers each time and it can be scaled across any size.
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nah, plenty of common cuts rock up too, it's not rare...levamislole, all the other 'caines, and also the 'magic' cut which almost always evades anytest on the hcl anyway, it being classed as inactive

so, as has it has alwaays been, freebasing is a poor indicator of quality - you can get an idea but that's it, and the idea could easily be way off

also, even if your hcl is 100% pure, the maximum freebase return cannot be more than 89% due to the indiputable that the hcl molecule which is stripped away accounts for 11% of the total masss of your cocaine salt powder
 
Well if you know about these cuts, I'm sure you know how to to remove them. In the case of levamisole, Diethyl ether solubility of leavamisole is highly temperature dependent. It's on the internet, it's no secret.

But the purity testing is accurate using as it does an antibody methodology so only 'cocaine shaped' compounds will react. Also, you cannot argue with price - the test kits are free.

One cannot suddenly complain that cuts are hard to remove as an excuse for not cleaning. The methodology isn't so hard.

But if someone is claiming to increase purity, the ONLY way to know would be to have tested the cocaine and resultant freebase using such a kit. Weighing is hardly a barrier, surely? Or is weighing the problem? People are claiming an increase in purity (tested how?) without giving weights, so how exactly IS purity tested?

The MOST reliable test is to test purity before and weight. Then wash, test and weigh.
 
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ageingpartyfiend said:
nah, plenty of common cuts rock up too, it's not rare...levamislole, all the other 'caines, and also the 'magic' cut which almost always evades anytest on the hcl anyway, it being classed as inactive

so, as has it has alwaays been, freebasing is a poor indicator of quality - you can get an idea but that's it, and the idea could easily be way off

also, even if your hcl is 100% pure, the maximum freebase return cannot be more than 89% due to the indiputable that the hcl molecule which is stripped away accounts for 11% of the total masss of your cocaine salt powder
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Yeah the other ‘caines are not actually that common as a cut though really, don’t seem to feature all that often from what I’ve seen when looking (very limited though of course). Didn’t know levisamole rocked up, that is interesting. You sure on that?

Good post thanks 👍
 
@Fertile @fastandbulbous or any other people with a solid knowledge of organic chemistry, what best guesses) is this "magic" shite that seems to be prevalent in cocaine these days? It seems to allow for snorted coke to be ok in fxx, but when rocked up it goes gritty and hard to get a nice big chunk going..
 
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