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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

Stimulants Cocaine to crack, should I do it?

ageingpartyfiend said:
If you go for the crack option you might open a door you cannot close

Do yourself a massive favour and don't bother
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I've been doing coke since 2004 and can stay off it easy with no problem.

But i agree with you.. i've heard crazy things about crack... it's not the same.
 
BellaJewel said:
@ageingpartyfiend @chinup
Do either of you have thoughts regarding this? I have always wondered what change occurs when blow becomes crack and why crack users become a mess, while cokeheads can live functional lives.
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You mean Cokeheads can run a Euro parliament. Suck music artists dry like vampires.

But functional lives, I think that is debatable.
 
i never was a huge coke fan, then i smoked crack and could see what the fuss was about. Then I IV’d it with heroin and holy shit there is no feeling more forbidden then that. My ears ringing so loud from the coke, rushing so hard from both i cant even speak and I’d tell anyone near me, “Hold on don’t talk, i can’t move”. So good but so fucking terrible.
You can’t have a family or any real kind of life and be shooting speedballs everyday. I know you’re only asking about coke/crack, but that’s just as bad. I watched a good friend sell her body for years to support her crack habit, she finally lost her kids when someone called DCF and told them she was living in motels turning tricks/smoking crack with a baby and 5 year old there.
You think you’re in control but you’re not.
 
No. 25 years ago a friend convinced me to try crack b/c we couldn't find powder. Destroyed me. Still battling the addiction.
 
fuck @bakazaru i can't imagine what 25 year on that shit would do, i was a regular smoker for 5 years but only really badly addicted for just over a year and in that time it stripped me completely of my humanity. i hope you're able to get help to get clean. since rehab i have barely ever craved crack (heroin is a different story!)
 
As others have said, going from coke to crack may be going down a path you can't return from. Years ago I introduced a friend to coke and he enjoyed it so much that a week later he decided to go out and smoke crack. I told him it was a terrible idea and it completely ruined him within months. He ended up in prison trying to break into someone's home to steal pills so he could sell them to buy more crack. I'm not sure the whole story though of what landed him in prison. Sadly he passed away not longer after he got out of prison. Went right back to crack and heroin. I miss him so much.

Stay away from that stuff.
 
"Cocaine to crack. Should I do it?" Nah, dude. The fact you're already knowingly asking that question kind of answered it. It's akin to firing a .22 into a target versus firing yourself out of a cannon. Sure, the initial bang is worth it, but you're going to hit the ground. Repeatedly. Every 15 minutes. Think of it like snorting heroin versus shooting heroin. There are some paths you just don't want to venture down no matter how good that initial reward is.
 
While I could control my cocaine use, once I tried crack it was alot more difficult to control. After a good blast you're high as fuck for a good 15 minutes. Within about 30 minutes all you'll be able to think about is that next blast. I felt like a speed fiend. Horrible comedown.

While Crack/Cocaine has never been my doc, I've gone through quite a few two or three day binges. Financially it adds up quick. I've never let it "grab me" but a close friend of mine lost EVERYTHING for Crack. Mind you he was an Opioid addict like myself but the Crack just did something for him and it got him.

So be careful. Just because you can control you're cocaine use does not mean the same will be true for Crack. It's a powerful drug. It's a door that once opened may be too hard for you to close.
 
When I was working as an escort in LA (1990's), I used to see clients who wanted me to smoke crack, or freebase, with them. The rush for both is great and extremely intense. I never had the urge to use the next day, because I was usually so trashed I couldn't imagine doing that.

It didn't matter what we were doing, my cock was limp, but I sure wanted to use it. I was also happy to have a hard cock in me, either end.

What I have noticed about coke in all its forms is that it seems to isolate folks. When one uses it, one often becomes separated, and off in one's own little zone.

Anyway, if you are interested in experiencing crack, it's a good rush, and you will chase that initial rush the rest of the night.

I can't tell you that I know how to cook crack, but judging from the descriptions of how one does it one can find online, it's not too hard. It seems easier to just buy it ready made, but if you are into home chemistry, why not?

Just don't ever use more often than once every two weeks, and I suspect you will be fine. You might still be an addict, but you will be relatively functional and likely able to hold a job/pay bills.
 
Deru said:
That's bizarre, I can fall asleep like a baby after smoking crack.

Maybe rarely after sniffing poor quality cocaine, but never, and I mean never, from intravenous cocaine. When I would finally fall asleep after 3 days awake, I would literally sleep walk into the bathroom and wake up standing up with no idea how I got there after a few hours of sleep.

I slept 8+ hours every day the entire time I smoked crack, and I slept incredibly good

I do agree, it's hard for me to believe they're the same drug going from one ROA to another.
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I was never able to eat or sleep using cocaine sniffing it. Unless i had sleeping pills or valium or xanax i couldn't sleep or get rid of that feeling of anxietyknots in stomach twitching body asleep mind awake . Although crack ruined 2 years of my life took everything. I could always eat and sleep the comedown was so quick you feel immediately tired then eat but only after u try everything to get money for more. All you want is more.
 
trashpanda206 said:
1 gram of coke will get you just enough crack to convince yourself you need to go get more. Don’t do it. It’s a waste.
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I forgot to say dont do it. I did it first time at 40 after drinking and using cocaine a lot. You are addicted immediately it is the most addictive drug ive took then heroin comes hand in hand wit it you will take it to come down then get put on methadone and be physically addicted for years like me not good. The
 
I don't even like crack but times that i have been around people smoking it and joined in it was scary how much i wanted to keep smoking it. I wouldn't even touch it if it was free and i'm a junkie. Coke snorted don't have that effect
 
Unfortunately, the jury is out and the destructive nature of Crack Cocaine cannot be denied. One poster mentioned people who use intranasal Cocaine being better able to control their shit. I've never been addicted to Crack Cocaine, but I've done it and really, that's all you need to know regarding how powerful the pull is. I wanted more. I was literally having thoughts about taking our coffee table to a pawn shop that I knew were fucking ridiculous, meanwhile the other side of my brain is analyzing all items of value in the apartment. It's kind of fucking scary. That was one "session" and there's no way I did more than a quarter of a gram. You know Opioid addicts get the jones and get desperate, but although your mind is preoccupied with how you feel, you are still you. I feel Crack Cocaine grabs you and keeps you.

Most of us know this already, but the biggest problem with a drug like Crack Cocaine is the duration of action. When inhaled, you get a powerful and quick hit. Unlike a drug like, say, Amphetamine, the duration of action is measured in minutes. With crack, I've always just seen people sit and smoke it until done with the only breaks made to fill their pipe.

You meet people whom you would never expect to be a drug addict. They hide it well maybe. They do their job et cetera. With Crack Cocaine, I think you have to admit that the constant ups and downs and crazy behavior would not be tolerated. Having to dip out of a kitchen during dinner service to get Crack will get you fired. Crack is just not a good thing. I don't know if there could ever be a safe way of administering Crack Cocaine re: Canada's Safe Supply Program. Opioid users require a certain dose to be "normal", so they come in a few times a day and find that their condition is manageable. I'm of the school that believes the amount of Crack is irrelevant. One could smoke 5,000 bucks worth of Crack in a week and be back on the street.

It's just different. I wouldn't recommend using Crack Cocaine to anybody. It is highly destructive as drugs go. There are rumblings of Safe Supply-type programs that will supply stimulant addicts with drugs like Dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) or Methylphenidate (Ritalin). They have not been implemented yet but I am so eager to see how the attempted treatment of stimulant-addiction goes. I honestly have no idea if it will work in the same way monitored Opioid has.

So yes, Crack is whack my friend.
 
jimdron said:
I am just a newbie in drugs, especially harder ones but I do believe that serious addiction or other serious consequences happen after a while, 2-3 months of serious (daily?) use.
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If it was that hard to become addicted to a substance there would be a lot less addicts in the world. You sound like me before I got addicted to alcohol, benzos, and heroin. I had to find out the hard way each time that its very easy to get hooked. Hard drugs are nothing to take lightly.
 
The 3 main routes of administration are about as close you can get to doing different drugs while taking the same drug. The difference between methods is crazy. It all has to do with how fast the chemical gets to your brain but also what changes are made to the chemical by your body and how many of your body's safeguards have been circumvented. From my experience, your much better off sticking with tooting the powder. There is nothing positive in store for you if you start smoking or shooting. I'm probably the 20th person to give you this advice so please make smart choices.
 
Keif' Richards said:
Unfortunately, the jury is out and the destructive nature of Crack Cocaine cannot be denied. One poster mentioned people who use intranasal Cocaine being better able to control their shit. I've never been addicted to Crack Cocaine, but I've done it and really, that's all you need to know regarding how powerful the pull is. I wanted more. I was literally having thoughts about taking our coffee table to a pawn shop that I knew were fucking ridiculous, meanwhile the other side of my brain is analyzing all items of value in the apartment. It's kind of fucking scary. That was one "session" and there's no way I did more than a quarter of a gram. You know Opioid addicts get the jones and get desperate, but although your mind is preoccupied with how you feel, you are still you. I feel Crack Cocaine grabs you and keeps you.

Most of us know this already, but the biggest problem with a drug like Crack Cocaine is the duration of action. When inhaled, you get a powerful and quick hit. Unlike a drug like, say, Amphetamine, the duration of action is measured in minutes. With crack, I've always just seen people sit and smoke it until done with the only breaks made to fill their pipe.

You meet people whom you would never expect to be a drug addict. They hide it well maybe. They do their job et cetera. With Crack Cocaine, I think you have to admit that the constant ups and downs and crazy behavior would not be tolerated. Having to dip out of a kitchen during dinner service to get Crack will get you fired. Crack is just not a good thing. I don't know if there could ever be a safe way of administering Crack Cocaine re: Canada's Safe Supply Program. Opioid users require a certain dose to be "normal", so they come in a few times a day and find that their condition is manageable. I'm of the school that believes the amount of Crack is irrelevant. One could smoke 5,000 bucks worth of Crack in a week and be back on the street.

It's just different. I wouldn't recommend using Crack Cocaine to anybody. It is highly destructive as drugs go. There are rumblings of Safe Supply-type programs that will supply stimulant addicts with drugs like Dextroamphetamine (Dexedrine) or Methylphenidate (Ritalin). They have not been implemented yet but I am so eager to see how the attempted treatment of stimulant-addiction goes. I honestly have no idea if it will work in the same way monitored Opioid has.

So yes, Crack is whack my friend.
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I used crack for 1st time at 40 years of age. I was addicted instantly. It takes everything from you. You are not ypurself you will do anything to get more. Things you would normally never ever contemplate. You spend every last penny you sell everything u can. Noone trusts you. I lost half my body weight. You dont wash for weeks on end. You can never have enough. Ever.
 
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