RCs Big Mephedrone thread

[Coolio]

At the age of 16, you're better of sticking with tried and true chemicals rather than trying addictive toxic research chemicals.

 

[Carl Landrover]

This a basic drug NOOB dumbass type question, but mephedrone and MDPV are different substances right?

I started reading about one awhile back, then had started reading about the other one (they are now intertwined, so I'm not sure which is which) except I hadn't realized I had been reading about 2 different things so the information got jumbled and remains that way.

So now I'm always confused on the topic and would like to officially sort it out. Different drugs yes? Both stimulants? Which is better?

 

[FlawedByDesign]

^Mephedrone is 4-Methylmethcathinone, while MDPV is Methylenedioxypyrovalerone. From my somewhat limited experience with both of these chems. Id say MDPV is more stimulating but has much worse of a comedown, so Id go with mephedrone as its pleasant effects arent too far behind MDPV's

BTW...I gotta ask, you arent charlie day are you?!?

 

[Carl Landrover]

Haha, no, no...my life would always be sunny then. Definitely ain't.

 

[ebola?]

MDPV has nothing to do with mephedrone.
The former is a dopamine reuptake inhibitor, resembling ritalin, but a few times more potent.
It also sucks (well, in my body and brain).

ebola

 

[EducatedMandy]

Mephedrone is mad, i didnt have much hope for it really as its research not illegal yet but its seriously got some powerful effects, however i have to say it did leave me a little dissosiative and with a feeling of being spaced out for a good 12 hours after.

 

[pofacedhoe]

Couple of questions...

1. Is 16 to young to do Mephedrone? Is there any side effects or stuff?

2. Is it being made illegal? If so, should I stock up on it?! How long does it last?

16 is too young to be experiementing with drugs. i'm not saying i didn't start early, but its best to wait until the different parts of the brain have caught up with the growth spurt before altering brain function.

if you HAVE to experiment use less and maybe not a chemical with as much addictive potential as coke. pot seems a lot less bad for the developing brain, a LOT less bad

 

[shoolameet]

I was wondering if anyone has come up with any good pre/post doses for this? Do you think it's a good idea to have some 5-HTP or melatonin afterward? Also, any nausea on the come up I need to worry about if I am bombing it?

 

[pofacedhoe]

I was wondering if anyone has come up with any good pre/post doses for this? Do you think it's a good idea to have some 5-HTP or melatonin afterward? Also, any nausea on the come up I need to worry about if I am bombing it?

due to the issues with 5ht2b stimulation and this drugs tendency to go until it runs out i think 5ht can wait until the mephedrone is out of your system a day or two (that is you can sleep and are not under any of its affects-check your cock just to be sure,lol).

what you need during is carbohydrates such brown bread with soup, Bvitamin complex (has to be strong!) and fish oils are the best things to get over without a comedown. ***extra mature stilton for a nice tyrosine rush***.also drink milk during to get rid of nasty tasting drip and give you someform of meal that is easily digestable, (maintains a balanced blood sugar level, not fruit juice) and calms down windy guts (unless you cant digest milk which if you know you cant you should avoid anyway). always eat and get sleep.

also avoid cannabinoids as it can bring on palpitations in combination with mephedrone (similar to coke and ritalin) as can too much sugar.


if you get nauseous coming up off drugs try disolving them thoroughly in a quarter pint of water

 

[shoolameet]

well i am a chick, so checking my cock won't work to well lol, but ill just wait a good 24 hours before dosing on 5 htp. and thanks for all that info! i was planning to try to eat oranges during because i love the taste of them when i roll, and milk is something i can't do, but i will make sure to keep some bread and vitamins around.
i was planning to smoke a little weed with this, but now ill probably wait a while to see how my heart rate is before doing so.
and i only asked about the nausea thing because mdma makes me nauseous, but i don't know if it's from the chemical itself or the excitement of coming up.

 

[pofacedhoe]

well i am a chick, so checking my cock won't work to well lol, but ill just wait a good 24 hours before dosing on 5 htp. and thanks for all that info! i was planning to try to eat oranges during because i love the taste of them when i roll, and milk is something i can't do, but i will make sure to keep some bread and vitamins around.
i was planning to smoke a little weed with this, but now ill probably wait a while to see how my heart rate is before doing so.
and i only asked about the nausea thing because mdma makes me nauseous, but i don't know if it's from the chemical itself or the excitement of coming up.

the weed is okay in moderation with meph but too much of both together has negatively synergistic effects. coke and pot overload had my friend in hospital.

sugar in oranges is good but remember to balance with a complex carbohydrate and a little cream or cheese (i find these help stop rapid change in appearance noted with hard stimulants and binges). just go easy with this stuff, you dont need to be fucked out of your brains to enjoy it (also it dont mix well with drink in terms of comedown)

 

[Riemann Zeta]

due to the issues with 5ht2b stimulation

Wait, how do we know that 4-methyl-methcathinone is a 5-HT2B agonist? I think that was just an idea thrown out there as to why the compound could, in theory, be dangerous--insofar as I know, there has been no empirical data on the subject. But I digress...

The sort of behavior mentioned in this thread is the exact reason why all novel psychoactive are quickly thrown in Schedule I / Class A. It is truly a goddamn shame that certain individuals market these novel compounds as "legal highs" trying to make as much coldhard as possible before the inexorable ban. Because when that happens, it is always the same old story: a bunch of dumb fucking teenagers with no knowledge of pharmacology or respect for chemistry start snorting grams of the compound at a time until one of them dies of a heart attack... Then the media gets ahold of the story and the compound automatically becomes "the deadly new drug that's killing your kids!" Finally, the compound is banned forever for all of humanity. Rinse and repeat.

 

[Jake-G]

I tried mephedrone for the first time last night. I snorted a tiny line in the pub and it hit me much harder than expected, came up in about 2 minutes and felt like I'd taken a load of speed - my heart was beating extremely fast and I didn't want to sit down! It was much stronger than I expected from reading other peoples reports so I'd recommend anybody trying it for the first time start with a tiny bit.

I carried on snorting little lines of it throughout the night (probably had around 250mg in total) and thought it was pretty good. Slightly like MDMA in that colours were more intense, but generally much less trippiness and empathy. Just made me talk a lot of shit and dance like an idiot. Quite a strange drug, has elements of cocaine, speed, and MDMA. Each line wears off quite fast so quite fiendish but it only takes a little bit to get you back up each time, best to space it out as much as possible I think.

Managed to get a few hours sleep and today I just feel drained, none of the weird mental comedown effects I'd normally get with MDMA.

Definately a good alternative to the shitty quality of illegal drugs around at the moment, would much prefer some decent MDMA though!

 

[moniorojo]

I've had mephedrone a few times lately (100-200 mgs) and it has let me with mixed feelings. The first time it made me feel great (empathy, stimulation...it made me feel 10 years younger and had a great time). The next few times the effects have leaned to stimulation more than to empathy and the fun part has been shorter and less consistent. I'm gona give it a break for now and try again in a few weeks to see if it makes me feel like the first time again.

 

[kfluxsake]

^^ I found no closed eye hallucinations on it, but after a 10 hour binge on it, I had trouble recognising objects in that kind of dissociative-style sense. I could look at my window for ages but it would take me around 4 minutes to actually realise it was a window.

Personally I love mephedrone, it's my all-time favourite substance, and I can't stop doing it once I'm in possession of it. I'm saving myself for a couple of weeks though so I can finally experience it in a social situation, which as of yet I haven't done.

Tolerance seems to drop off quite quickly suggesting, in my opinion, that it's not nearly as serotonergic as MDMA. I can take as much mephedrone as I like and I still won't feel like I've run out of serotonin and need to spend 2 months off the drug to replace it. I also definitely feel there is a large adrenergic feeling there, when I'm past the peak the high becomes very jittery.

Overall I'd say epinephrine - 7/10 dopamine - 7/10 serotonin 4/10 (if MDMA was 10)

however I DO find it much, much more empathogenic than MDMA.
Also much more dancey. I can't stop moving in some way or another when I have music on.

As for the comedown, it's more of a stimulant crash in my opinion, and is best avoided.
I also felt a very strange pressure on my temples after taking a large amount of the stuff in one go and getting VERY high. I attribute this to my blood pressure rocketing, so once again I say this drug is better taken in moderation to get pleasantly high rather than completely mashed.

that's my 689 cents 8)

My two and only attempts at mephedrone both turned effortlessly into 3 days without sleep, As someone who moans if they don't get their 8 hours, the experience was surprisingly relaxed and pain free besides the constant and supernatural tempation to redose despite knowing a lot better . It'd be interesting to hear how long people have stayed up for on this and the impact felt afterwards on mood and functioning - I did notice some pleasurelessness, apathy and intense desire to be alone today probably due to dopamine downregulation rather than depletion.
Euphoria is very short lived like you find yourself almost rushing to do something enjoyable before the magic wears off and just goes the background stimulant mode. More redosing means more heart issues, right now I've got have got sore temples and headache after pulling off about 74 hours awake since Thursday (during which I slept for 5 hours sleep)during which I have done 3.26g (I justified any wrecklessness by keeping a meticulous log of updates with dosage times and numbers) Basically I feel like a much less hardcore version of a meth addict. The walls are actually glowing dark colours as i sit typing this with my light's off.

Other things i get are auditory hallucinations- voices that come in and out of the mind like turning a radio dial, which can be a little frustrating if trying to sleep. If i've been up for too long, i might see shapes in my peripheral vision as well. Also I have noticed how some big doses have no positive effect at all, even after a break, while smaller ones later on can, which can be mysifying and that sleep takes 7-8 hours after your last dose if you've been redosing.

Today I did a bit >1g (same story past three days- shameful) I definitely beat my lifetime record of just 8 hours sleep in 80-82 hour period. Another thing: I wonder how important agents for comparison, like coke, are to catagorising what is and isn't 'heavy' use. Some say 250mg is the right amount for a dose, and that more smaller but more frequent dosing makes for a less good experience overall.

Even the Guardian have done a piece on it quoting the cost of a gram owhich was described as being 'enough for four to five doses.'
I like take to take a benzo on it sometimes, or a bit of K, but usually don't hit the pills until i really have to sleep. I have used propranolol but having just discovered it can worsen cardiotoxity in coadministration with stimulants I will stop and find a good vasodilator instead. Incidentally Viagra worked a charm for the blood pressure and vasoconstrictive median effects, which are definitely a problem, like my heart does feel like it's gone through the ringer the past two days. Will check in to tell you how i'm feeling in a bit.

 

[kfluxsake]

Eventually slept. Did 4.5 grams in 4 days...silly boy.
-Depression (-)
-Empty Headed (++)
-Orthostatic Hypotension (+++)
-Desire to see people (-)

Otherwise fit as a fiddle

 

[hallucinosis]

anyone have some high resolution pictures of what they believe to be pure Mephedrone?

 

[Eight0Eight]

I had a gram of this stuff delivered this morning.

Really good batch, each dose seems to be lasting much longer than last time.

I just wish this was around a few years ago when I was bang into the rave scene. To me, it feels cleaner and fresher, and doesn't make me pull stupid faces. Also save you from having to deal with shady dealers - or worse yet, score in a (grotty) club.

For the (*low*) price I paid for this, I couldn't ever se myself buying E/Speed/Coke again.

 

[Coolio]

Eight0Eight, the problem is that this isn't nearly as safe as MDMA or meth.

 

[cosmic charlie]

You shouldn't make posts that are self incriminating Eight0Eight

I wouldn't ever talk about things getting sent to you.