The first pills I took were actually pretty good, just WAY overpriced for the 50-60mg that was in them so when I popped one expecting to roll it did hardly anything.... eventually I dropped two strong MDMA presses and rolled HARD, but still I've had so many better rolls since then lol. You kind of learn certain "raver tricks" over the years to really boost your rolls into the next dimension.
Not to mention I've gotten a lot more adventurous than just dropping some pills sitting around my house lol
I wish I've tried the APBs so I could weigh in but I never did get around to trying them since MDxx is so readily available