@User145667 hi, thanks a lot for sharing your story and if it can help someone to not fuck with meth the better. Personally as I might have already told u I am- was addicted to opioids (smack in the EU, oxys in South America) and coke ( here in SA) , cautionary tales about smack abounds but this never stopped silly old me, hopefully there are some brighter ones out there that will het the message without having to learn it the hard way. To me is just hypothetical anyay cos there s no meth here ( and when I have tried pharma amps such as Ritalin I hated them, for amphetamines are really not my thing) but I was thinking
cannot it be said about EVERY hard drug? I know that even if one day I will quit opioids for good, I ll ALWAYS be an opioid addict- I ll always have fond memories of opioids no matter what but that s because they are exactly what I was looking after in a substance. With cocaine...it just happened, no oxys- good affordable coke everywhere- pawns - unfulfillable work tasks+ "hey is not an opioid tyhe w-d are just mental" = a disaster, at times I was snorting 3-4 grams per day and I m just controlling tyhe thing because oxys have made a triumphant come back in my life. I have just tasted the life of a coke addict and I ll choose opioid adiiction over it anytime- meth sounds way worse, maybe cos it s cheaper- last longer- has more damaging effects on the brain. Do you think that it also depends on the ROA (Ivving?) for instance I think that I have managed to stay relatively functional because I don t IV (the more ruined ones I ve met were Ivving H and coke) , so in terms of harm addiction the take home message should be " stay away from meth but ESPECIALLY from needless" or do u think that it can fuck u up independently from the ROA? Congrats on your progress and if talking about it triggers u sorry and feel free to ignore this question.
Sup man. I mean yeah, you can indeed say that about any "euphoriant" to some degree. But as someone who has vast experience with Heroin (IV'd as well as snorted, smoked, and even plugged on a couple of occasions lol), many other opioids, fair amount of experience with crack cocaine, a vast amount of experience with powdered cocaine (mostly snorted, the couple times i shot it i did not have enough to really get a "bell ringer"), Meth (eaten, snorted, smoked, plugged, hot-railed, and of course my favorite method IV), Adderall (most eaten and sometimes snorted, but I have shot a fair bit of speed paste, to not much avail as far as a rush is concerned), "Flakka" (smoked), and GHB (which i consider something akin to a hard drug because of the insane and unique euphoria that "sweet spot" doses can cause), I would say that, with the exception of Flakka, Meth by far has the most pull. Maybe it's my personality, but I really do think it is because of how it raises dopamine so much higher than any of these other drugs (maybe, again, with the exception of a-PVP aka Flakka). The only thing better than shooting meth is shooting a mixture of meth and BTH.
But here is my point, as someone who has a lot of experience with all the hard drugs, using them in a vast amount of different ROAs, I'd still say that Meth (and yes, especially IV Meth; the rush from IV meth is totally different from the typical meth High. To me, a Heroin rush always felt like just a really concentrated version of an opiate high/euphoria. An IV meth rush felt totally distinct from the normal meth High/euphoria, which was already a damn goof high in the first place IME. The first time I shot it, it was like it blew my hair back. It gives this amazing body high, and the mental euphoria is so exilerating it is hard to describe. Its like you feel so fucking good that you don't even want to think thoughts, because the moment is so perfect, that anything you try to add to it, even inner dialogue, almost feels like a sin) is in another league. Sure, your never going to feel as good IRL as you will on Heroin. But hell man, believe it or not I used Heroin on and off (along with a myriad of other opiates) in the course of ten years and never got addicted to Heroin itself (Ironically, I finally became addicted to opioids in the past year and have not used Heroin once in that span. For one thing, the risk of Fentanyl/Carfent that comes from the open boarders these days scares the living shit out of me). Same with Crack. AMAZING rush. A lot of pull from the drug. Never gonna feel as good IRL. Yet, its not the same. I can ignore those other drugs for the most part. But Meth has a pull that has never stopped haunting me, after first trying the drug in 2012. I really do attribute this to how much it raises Dopamine levels; it is really uncanny how much it can raise Dopamine. Again, maybe its just me, but personally I am just convinced that meth is just a beast in its own league. It raises dopamine that high, yet its the most sly of the hard drugs. It is ironically the one that can give you the most sense of "control" in the beginning. But once you do finally become a hardcore daily user, it will never ever leave you alone. To this day I really don't give that much of a shit if I try heroin again, even as a current opioid addict. And crack is such a pointless drug, there is no point in ruining your life over it, whenever Methamphetamine is superior in every way. That's just the way I see it.
As for the needle question, I would say that IV substantially raises the risk of things getting out of control (which is how my personal Meth addiction got totally out of hand in the first place, although looking back I would argue that even when I was a regular weekend user, I was already addicted in a sense. I religiously smoked/snorted/ate meth almost every single weekend for a little over two years or so before I ever picked up the needle [and for me it was only a matter of time before I had to up the antie], and honestly it was all I looked forward to during the week, and I could not---even at that point---imagine a life where meth was not part of said life on a regular basis. I would definitely argue that this is a form of addiction, now looking back, albeit a much less harmful and much more moderated form of addiction; yet it was still very much "god" of my life, and it was by far my favorite past time and the only thing that made it worth busting my ass at work during the week).
Now, there are guys (well, at least one guy) I know who tried the needle, liked it, and yet still never tried it a second time (unless that has changed from then to now). But for many (if not most) poor souls, the needle is more or less a death sentence. I'm living proof that it is indeed escapable; but with the needle, you are essentially taking the already major pull of Methamphetamine and then multiplying it by at least three times the pull IME. Even the mere thought of seeing the mental image of the blood filling the barrel of a syringe gives me a "phantom rush" that causes fairly intense cravings, even two years after having last banged some ice. But there are still plenty of people who smoke the shit once, and haven't put the challet down since, ya know what I mean? But yeah, I guess I should edit it and say "stay away from meth but ESPECIALLY stay away from IV Meth. " We'd all do well to stay away from needles period. Save em for the nurses and the diabetics.
. I never got why people liked psychedelics for sex. And i couldn't even imagine sex or even masterbation with dissos. I'll tell what was also a great aphrodisiac, Phenibut. But it was only the very first time i used it. It rivaled even meth. IMO the only better aphrodisiac than meth is a-PVP. Holy shit that stuff is raunchy. The problem with Neth though is once your back doing it every day again it eventually totally destroys your sex drive and your dick temporarily stops working until you take a big break. At least that's how it always was for me. And yes, the porn/sex effects of meth are half the addiction, honestly. But yes Meth (or any kind of potent aphrodisiac chemsex for that matter) can definitely ruin sober sex, I definitely agree with that.
