It's been the same way with me with clonazepam. The best way? Well, others would have diff. opinions but what has worked for me at high levels is a several month down-taper along with a substitution with diazepam or nitrazepam.
Trick is REALLY take it light with the substitutions with these other long-acters. GOTTA do
MINIMAL up taper with the
smallest dosages. If you start replacing clonazepam with too high a dose with some of these other BZD's you will have double trouble. The titers are pretty much on mark when you experience a small but not uncomfortable effect. If you titer down too quickly or up with the subs you WILL have your nuts in a vice.
BTW, I take my clons sublingually too because the time to raise to steady-state, max plasma level takes too long for me to really have a regular schedule of any kind. The sublingual cuts the max plasma to what, about half the time? Something like that. Other wise, taking them orally needs an hour or two + for them to kick in.
I've also spread out oral dosages in smaller doses but at about double the frequency. For me, taking clons 6-8 times a day spread out has worked too---but you also have to take about 1-1/2 of the adjusted 'spread out' dose at night so that the plasma levels are good when you wake up.
I don't want to write a bigger novel but PM me if you want and I'll go more specific. Oh, and certain BZD's (esp. clons, nitraz, flunitraz) with opiates really juice up the opiates. Horse riders I've known strongly prefer one of these with opiates for the 'beyond nod' experience. For some reason, clon enhances the op effects more for most people I've known.
Subcutex (or any opiate, esp the hard shit and methadone) and a Z like zolpidem (or many BZD's
WILL put you in a major zone. I'm surprised you didn't have an extended conversation with the seat in front of you (or a pigment of you imagine next to you) on that combo %)
sp0r said:
"...As far as the klonopin it used to be THE BEST. But i started taking upwards of 20 mgs a day with no effect.
Ok now a question. Can someone shed somelight on what is the best way to get high off klonopin? Because I have been taking it sublingually because for some odd reason I always think that is the way to go. And not wanting to waste them I never swallow them. Has anyone have any experience on if klonopin works better sublingual or swallowed?
One more thing, the only time I hallucinated off benzos or z drugs is when I was in rehab for over a year in florida, flew back home to pennsylvania, ate 6 ambien cr~s and a subutex and when i got back to florida everything was warping around and melting. I was nodding out and passing out l ike I was on heroin. The people at the 3/4 way house kept drug testing me but neither of the drugs would come up on their panel. I was fucked up for almost two days. Like if I would look at the stove it would start warping like it was made out of jello. Anyone experience this/
sp0r -_-