Are certizine and diphenhydramine like antipsychotics in causing stimming beh

[d1nach]

I had severe stomach pain and aggression and i took like 5 benadyrl and 2 allegra and my flushing is gone and my agitation but i keep chewing and drooling almost like when i think of thorazine. I am just wondering if im constantly blowing bubbles and fidgeting because im used to being very stimulated and take adderall for add. It feels like i cant swallow and i feel really hyper. Like i am playing guitar going to the gym nornally im perfectly still reading from adderall. Like i feel like i want things in my mouth and i feel like a girl almost (sorry if that is sexist) like i mean sometimes i get emotional and cry and i cant tell my brain to shut up and stop being a wimp is this a side effect?

 

[d1nach]

Also are these drugs antiarthymmics because i feel like i have to check my hearts still besting because it feels almost like to beat of kelly clarkstin and it feels rrally weird compared to slayer raining blood.

 

[Scrofula]

I found out yesterday that cetirizine is the major metabolite of hydroxyzine, which is an antipsychotic. But then, a lot of antihistamines are anti-psychs, or at least, a lot of anti-psychs are strong anti-histamines. Cetirizine is not supposed to cross the BBB though, so it shouldn't have much anti-stim effects, as in, blocking dopamine receptors.

When I had raging hay fever as a teen, it would make me pretty agitated. Never felt over-emotional or "girlish" though. Maybe pissed off.

 

[d1nach]

Does psychosis necessarily have to do with dopamine if its from a nonschizophrenia cause like severe stomach inflammation like almost baby colic which i actually rock back and forth biting into a shirt listening to a female singer at roughly 60-70 beats per minute because i feel psychotic because of the pain not because of hallucinations and know antihistamines are used for baby colic.

 

[Scrofula]

Oh, well in that case, no. Psychotic people don't know they're being psychotic, either. If you knew the singer was singing to you specifically, and had a code embedded in the beat pattern, then you're getting psychotic.

But flooding your brain with excess dopamine can cause delusions (hey, I'm a meth user, trust me) whether or not you're schizophrenic or bipolar. That's a theory about schizophrenia, because of those effects. But it probably takes more with them and involves plenty of other stuff. Serotonin plays a roll too.

Going nuts from pain is just normal. I mean, if the pain is normal, and yours might not be.

 

[d1nach]

In my messed up head psychotic was basically crying or shaking or grimacing from intense pain instead of keeping flat neutral expression and getting what i think i should do done reguardless of my emotions because thats what real men do. Id workout for hours and pump myself full of stims until i " stopped acting like a baby or little girl " and could sit cold still like a sniper and excute the misssion with a still hand and if you cant keep yourself together your not worthy of being loved because what good is a 21 year old man who isnt the doing the protecting for his family and instead is too physically weak to work through some severe pain.

Anyway this is way off topic and sorry for rambling. I stopped self medicating myself with as much polystimulants and realized just because right now might feel too weak to physically feel like i can physically protect the people i love i can still do other things and if i might shake or make a face that doesnt mean i should just lock myself in my room basically trying to pump myself up till i cant feel.

 

[Scrofula]

That's not psychosis, that's learned misogyny, deep insecurity, false stoicism, confused gender roles, whatever the fuck. Or at least the motives are.

But are you talking metaphor here, "grimacing from intense pain," or are you actually in intense pain, cause nobody likes that. I usually try pretty hard to stop pain.

I actually did get caught crying in the doc's office when I had pancreatitis. That one was mostly emotional, from coming off some booze, no sleep, constant pain, and knowing I'd fucked up my organs. It was pretty humiliating, cause that one was a "woe is me" kind of cry.

I teared up when they couldn't get the catheter (IN MY ARM) to stop going into my skull and go into my heart instead, but nobody saw.

(I screamed and cried when the nurse pulled the catheter out (OF MY PENIS). Like starting a lawnmower, truly horrifying.)

But then some people get bone cancer, so I'll stop crying out loud.

 

[d1nach]

No not a metaphor id go to the hospital with a broken arm and the nurse esp if it was a female asked id say like a 2. Do you need pain meds? Noo im fine ill deal with it i mean its a broken arm i need my phone i got stuff to do its not cancer or aids ill just but into a shirt.

 

[d1nach]

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Sorry phone doesnt allow editing

And when i say stomach pain i mean i would close my door put on loud music or pretend to watch a lecture or something while i actually have a shirt shoved into my mouth so noone can hear me groan like a wimp and id just lift for hours with five pound weights for thounds of reps gagging till i passedout and could sleep for a few hours.

 

[Scrofula]

So, uh, you have intense pain right now? Enough to bite on a shirt?

Maybe you should get that checked out by a professional. THat's not normal, whether you cry about it or not.

 

[d1nach]

Everytime i go they just tell me to drink more water or give me menthol 10 mg because one time i didnt have a bowel movement for two weeks and they called me a liar because they said youd be in too much pain to even be here talking but i was on amphetamine 55 mg and sixteen cups of coffee and 125 mg of dph because i felt like i was going into shock and i could feel my blood pressure dropping and nothing is more frustrating when you feel like your dying and the doctors are just dragging their feet shuffling around specialists month after month so you learn how to somewhat function with drugs then they use your super human efforts like caged animal fighting for its life doing trying anything to stay afloat till you figure out how to treadwater to keep from drowning as proof you arent that sick because your semi functioning

 

[d1nach]

I think its the sodium channel blockade that helps because it makes me feel like im in less pain like im less able to feel my nerves in my digestive system

 

[Scrofula]

So you still haven't pooped? Pooping is good. A good poop is good. Relaxing, cleansing, can be meditative.

Did you point out that they (medical professionals) have tools to check for things that might cause you not to poop for two weeks or cause pain? Like CTs and ultrasounds, or just that thing where they poke around your stomach with their hands? This is (like) the classic case of the kid who complains about the stomach ache and everyone tells him to "man up" so he silently screams until the appendix finally ruptures and he's flown to ICU. Probably one reason I don't have kids (the other being a willing human female).

As a guy who is "into anal" I'm also surprised you haven't gone nuts with the enemas yet. Seems like the perfect new hobby.

 

[d1nach]

I am pretty much the only thing that has helped was chugging 32-64 ounces of whole milk coffee with the oils and carbonated water. And a small milk enema then puting on really calming vlogs and songs like paramore or lana del rray and practing vomiting up just the coffee oil layer keeing the milk down over and over on a empty stomach for atleast 30 minutes

 

[Keif' Richards]

I would say that it is indeed fairly sexist to type-cast women as needing "something in their mouths". I'm not a woman and that sort of thing still irks me. I'm having trouble differentiating your experience from anything other than the typical effects of antihistamine misuse/overuse. Antihistamines are well-known to cause Delirium in innapropriate dosages.

Delirious -in an acutely disturbed state of mind resulting from illness or intoxication and characterized by restlessness, illusions, and incoherence of thought and speech.

The dry-mouth that you're complaining of is also a tell-tale sign. For the record, using antihistamines as recreational drugs is generally not considered to be a safe or advisable practice.

 

[Scrofula]

So you've got chronic GI problems, is what you're saying. Hey, so do I! But I take metformin for diabetes and still sneak in sugar. The metformin blocks some glucose absorption (in addition to the role it plays in the liver), leaving glucose in my intestines to feed my flock of flora. This they dutifully turn into enough gas to float a new flaming Hindenburg. I become effectively glucose intolerant. People in clinical studies for metformin's anti-cancer effects have dropped out not because of the chemo drugs, but because they couldn't handle the year it takes to adjust your bowels to metformin.

Anyway, Nach, despite keeping notes, I still don't know your whole pharmacopiae.

Experience says dairy isn't the best thing to get your bowels moving. And vomiting isn't either. You can get a damn ulcer from that, according to my license in drunk. I haven't heard you try any fiber. Go for some psillium husk and magnesium supplements with just lots of water. Skip dairy for a few weeks, make sure you aren't irritating something with it. Try your enemas with saline instead. Massage your guts gently.

If it's your stomach-the organ, stick with water and mylanta for a while. Or some pedialyte. Throw in some gatorade if you need some calories. Clear liquid diet for a day at least. Stop swallowing any tobacco juice if you're still doing that.

 

[d1nach]

I feel like its more of my body doesnt digest properly like its not vomiting its more drooling and practicing swallowing.

I feel like the problem isnt constipation or irritation but more of a inability to sense my stomach. The milk and tobacco juice and coffee make me feel like im able to contract my stomach muscles feel them and ect.

Its almost like what most people would consider extreme punishment i find rewarding because it is something i can feel which helps helps me stay calm. Like feeling bloated from chugging milk makes me feel better because i feel like im able better focus on the moment instead of fear

 

[Scrofula]

What about just wearing a girdle? Do a Captain Kirk and wrap it tight, yet still go commando. You could get the sensation of tightness without having to wreck your insides.

I don't know, maybe the commando could help with the pelvic floor exercises.

 

[d1nach]

You read my mind i have my pants up to my belly button super tight and a hoodie t shirt long sleeve heavyshirt and it definitely helps my anxiety

 

[Scrofula]

You can buy what they call "compression shirts" online, but I'd be careful since some look like they're just gimmicks for weight loss or something (like, you don't need to sweat, just the compression). Or ask some out-of-shape old guys if they have a back brace they don't use anymore.

I'm also curious if you've spent too much time reading all the "autism is extreme maleness" stuff out there. I'd be highly skeptical of that.