RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

[InterestingFACT]

So small doses? In my research I have read that doing small doses only gives a functional stimulating effect.
I was thinking about railing this 80 mg and maybe not even redose after, just to see if its strong enough for me.

In my experience if you start with 50-80 mg you'll probably want to keep redosing.

At doses more like 30mg you can more easily call it quits. Definitely start conservstively if you're trying to use this functionally. Personally I think it's terribly suited for functional use--the high it gives is buzzy and unfocused. Still better than caffeine I suppose IF you can keep the doses suitably low.

For what it's worth I only had one bingey session on it: shortly after I first got it. After that I reassessed and had no trouble controlling my use of it--just by being more conscious of the amount I dosed. However, I tended to use oral over insufflation, and never IVed or vaped, so obviously my story is a little bit different than the others in this thread who ran into serious trouble.

 

[bootie]

Yeah I'd say if you don't want to redose it's better to just drop it orally, because it'll last a lot longer...

 

[bootie]

@cr00k oh wow! that's surprising, to be honest in comparison to eph which i used for months daily to get things done and pass my degree it had my heart rate constantly increased which just ended in anxiety and jitteryness and confusion, so in comparison, i've only ever tried 3f-ph for the first time this week, so i expect if i abused it in the same way it could possibly be a lot worse, but initially it just seemed really 'clean' i suppose meaning i didn't feel my heart increase or any kind of anxiety, i didn't feel much at all really except an increased mood and urge to take more lol

 

[furryfreek]

In my experience if you start with 50-80 mg you'll probably want to keep redosing.

At doses more like 30mg you can more easily call it quits. Definitely start conservstively if you're trying to use this functionally. Personally I think it's terribly suited for functional use--the high it gives is buzzy and unfocused. Still better than caffeine I suppose IF you can keep the doses suitably low.

For what it's worth I only had one bingey session on it: shortly after I first got it. After that I reassessed and had no trouble controlling my use of it--just by being more conscious of the amount I dosed. However, I tended to use oral over insufflation, and never IVed or vaped, so obviously my story is a little bit different than the others in this thread who ran into serious trouble.

All of this sounds about right to me, at least for a first time user. I thought exactly the same about the point on 3-FPM not being too great as a productivity enhancer when I first started dabbling with the stuff, but it turned out to be surprisingly effective with regular (daily) use. And, yeah, oral is the way to go, IMO. I've no idea why people insist on shoving the stuff up their nostrils; it only comes on 5 or so mins faster, isn't any stronger (if anything, I'd argue the opposite) and isn't exactly the most comfortable of experiences.

One other thing I find (well, found - it's not been an issue for me at all since the first few times I used it) helps to minimise the risk of compulsive to re-dosing is to mix the stuff into a drink and consume that relatively slowly. The reason I think this helps is that any urge to re-dose always seems to occur around the time one stops coming up and effects plateau, so spreading a dose across an hour or so instead of taking it all at once sort of avoids that moment of compulsion.. At least that's what works for me.

 

[bootie]

how many mg would you say is appropriate for a standard oral dose, would you say you need more if you take it that way?

 

[MrK9]

i railed it... spend 45 minutes doing stuff feel like smoking some weed. should I worry about psycotic effects ala smoking weed while high on speed? sometimes this can makes me paranoide

 

[gorestep]

I definitely wouldn't say this is the dirties chem out there by far!
Eph / MPA are far dirtier and feel toxic

I've had about a gram since last night and I can do normal things like see my grandma without being paranoid

It's a bit dissociative after a bit so I agree that you cannot be artistic on this I todied the whole house on this and went to see my gran and walked instead of drove so it does give some motivation to do tasks.

It's fiendish definitely but I've learnt to control it.

 

[MrK9]

do you snort it? I found the burn to be pretty hard...feld like a bleeding nose and the drip hurth my throath a bit and moves really slowly..

Ahh this reminds me of old times

 

[Listening]

I thought exactly the same about the point on 3-FPM not being too great as a productivity enhancer when I first started dabbling with the stuff, but it turned out to be surprisingly effective with regular (daily) use. And, yeah, oral is the way to go, IMO.

Care to share dosage and how it is split (if it all)?

 

[bootie]

it does BLOODY HURT. like a biyatch! and i know what you mean when you say you can talk to people without being completely speechless and stuttering and paranoid someone will talk to you... lol

does anyone know how long the 'high' is supposed to actually last approx?

 

[MrK9]

i dont think it lasts that long i'm t+2:00 and im comming down hard... just redosed another 80 mg just to see what it will do to me. as for now my vision is a bit blurry.. might be the weed (Belgian street haze, 28% THC) or because i snorted it again and the pain fucked my vision.

I can see the benefit of mixing it with a local sedative to counter the burn.

i'm enjoying it a bit too much, reminds me of some medium grade streetcoke. for 1/5th the price and in way lower dose.

 

[gorestep]

The original stuf burnt up the nose like one horrid fukker

My head shop started doing gogain with 3fpm and a numbing agent

You can hardly tell your putting it up ur nose with that.

The pure stuf hurts like a mother fuker like on par with meph tbh


dangerous THE HEADSHOP IS 20 mins AWAY FROM ME and now stock 3fpm And IM MATES WITH THEM!!!!!

Very DANGEROUSE position for me seen as though I love this chem

 

[furryfreek]

Care to share dosage and how it is split (if it all)?

Sure, though I should first mention that I'm using the stuff to treat myself for ADHD and obviously wouldn't recommend such regular use to anyone unless they've put plenty of thought and research into their decision and are in a relatively urgent situation*. On week days I usually take 80mg split into three doses spaced roughly an hour apart: 40mg first thing in the morning followed by a couple of 20mg doses. On weekends I usually take just 60mg a day, sometimes as 3x20mg and others as 40mg+20mg. I'm sure I needed the full 80mg at first but I now seem to be able to get away just 60mg on some days and 80 even seems a tad excessive at times (particularly on hot days like the last couple).

* I won't bore you with the details but basically, my ADHD was so bad that I was experiencing physical withdrawal-like symptoms (namely cold sweats and RLS) though I didn't suspect it had anything to do with ADHD (I'd assumed it was a craving for weed and/or lingering withdrawal from kratom which I'd quit a couple of months prior) until I started using 3-FPM from time to time, then just as an alternative to coffee or whatever. I soon realised that the 3-FPM basically made me "normal", or at least pretty close. I did (and still sorta' do) plan to seek professional advice and get a proper script, just using 3-FPM as a short-term measure but 6+ months on and that still hasn't happened yet..

 

[MrK9]

The original stuf burnt up the nose like one horrid fukker

My head shop started doing gogain with 3fpm and a numbing agent

You can hardly tell your putting it up ur nose with that.

The pure stuf hurts like a mother fuker like on par with meph tbh


dangerous THE HEADSHOP IS 20 mins AWAY FROM ME and now stock 3fpm And IM MATES WITH THEM!!!!!

Very DANGEROUSE position for me seen as though I love this chem

I would say YOLO

 

[MrK9]

plan to seek professional advice and get a proper script, just using 3-FPM as a short-term measure but 6+ months on and that still hasn't happened yet..

Maybe I miss read but are you using 3-FPM for 6 months daily? I've read that the half life is really long so you might be in for a HELL of a ride when u try to call it quits.

 

[bootie]

literally. i'm usually good with self control. but part of me wants some, but then it's like... meh once it's all over it'll be the same ish

 

[ColtDan]

3F-P is by far the dirtiest stimulant I have ever tried. Not sure what constitutes "clean" for you,

I found it dirty as well, vasoconstriction off a small amount, that shitty hot dirty feeling i associate with meph

The pure stuf hurts like a mother fuker like on par with meph tbh

The stuff i had was 10x worse than meph, absolute nose ripping shite

 

[Guinea Pig2]

@Guinea_Pig2
300mg in .7ml of water? Better enjoy the time you have left with that leg. That's an osmolarity north of 1 Osm/L if I am not mistaken. Make sure you inject extremely slowly and do not miss the tiniest drop of liquid or inflammation and fibrosis is sure to follow.

75mg inhaled for a bellringer?!?! That's so weird, I need almost half a gram IV for that. Feels like Russian Roulette every single time. I gotta remove myself from this thread, this is some serious triggering. Shit.

Hi Crook, i'm always very careful when using the femoral as i fully understand the complications related to missing or leaked substance. I always use a 1ml barrell with thinnest spike so i don't damage the vein. Plus, i always take it nice and slow when pushing the plunger and never pull out too quick... Always alternate from both sides so i'm not constantly using the same site...

Just received 6g of 3 FPM and waiting for another 3g to arrive tomorrow - lovely weekend is upon me and my partner - libido is now in effect. mmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[Guinea Pig2]

Yeah I ended up trying it as well, 150 MPA 80 3fpm in 2ml water. You're crazy dude that shit burns nasty unless properly diluted!


I think I prefer MPA over 3fpm but I'm not entirely sure I keep switching vendors trying to find a reasonably priced / high quality one and I keep feeling let down some how so I wouldn't really like to say which one I definitely prefer they're both great in their own way, and when you blend them right I'm sure it'll be a cracker.. More tests to follow 

How's you Edgymann?

I've not had any issues with the ratio i IV or my partner. Blending them both does not fulfil the desired effect i seek... Let me know if you blend others that combine nicely with a rapid onset of a rush that takes the breath away.

Just going to enjoy 250mg of ethylphenidate administered in 50ml water - yum yum, lol...

 

[MrK9]

Im calling it quits for today ive used about 210 mg tonight, lol at planning to not redose.
Because it lacks a real rush when snorted and the effects wear off after 1 / 1,5 hours its really moreish. But better controllable then coke imo, with coke i would use everything i had in one setting or I took untill my hearth started going crazy inclusing metalic sounds in my head, with 3 FPM i reach a point where im like im done for tonight.

My last dose 70mg spread over both holes, wich makes me tear up everytime, was about an hour ago while i was in a private room with a webcam model (0.99c / min one). It took me about 4 hours before i had a boner... Couldnt concentrate.
Anyhow I took 1 mg etizolam and I am smoking my first joint of the evening / morning lol... I am a heavy marihuana user with an avaragre of 25 grams a week. The stimulat made it so that I didnt even think about smoking for 12 hours.. wich is crazy for me. In thosen12 hours that I was on it I did not leave my PC chair to do anything.
It brought back a compulsion to socialise with people online... Altho when I was spreaking on skype with someine I couldnt concentrate on the conversation... So I lied and sayd to the person that I was going to bed

What I find worrieing tho is that the compulsion i had is the samekind asI have on speed. Brosed the web lookingn for escorts and calling them up looking for a date but it was already a bit late and no one picked up... Thank god.

All in all its a pretty fun stimulant but I do indeed feel a bit dirty, havve swet alot