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Opioids Loperamide (Immodium) Megathread: We have now lost at least 2 of our own from Lope

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this is just strange just go buy some proper opiates then you know for sure the buzz ya get.
 
I took 20mg of immodium the other day for sub wds and all i got was a stomach ache...maybe i just need to take more, but now I'm afraid to because my stomach has been giving me shit ever since i first took it
 
A month ago I was desperate for something that would ATLEAST take the edge offf WD's from Pods. I was researching and researching and all I could find was sub or done maintenance therapy or DXM (I used to go the DXM route, but just the thought of that shite makes me want to puke nowadays) or benzos or a fuckin hot shower.

I couldn't afford bupe or done or any of that and couldnt get my hands on any scripts for benzos or anything as I didn't have insurance at the time(Finally have Access Medical that the state or whatever pays for) and fuck a damn hot shower!!!! I work construction 8-12 hrs a day.

Well, I then stumbled upon this OP Lopermind or whatever and didn't put much thought into it. It was when I read something by six part seven that gave me hope. So I went and got a bottle of generic imodium, took 48 mgs, and vrossed my fingers and went to work...

Withdrawals never came!!!! not even a bit!! I even got a very slight warmth in my stomach!!! All day I was fine. After work I was even able to go to the bar with my boss and have a few rounds and play pool. I couldn't believe it. The only thing is, one day I ate a large meal while on the lope, and WD's started to surface. So I took a handful of them not thinking. Soon it felt like I had taken a wee bit too much.

I felt weird, I can't explain it. It felt "dirty" and I noticed my eyes would strain if I looked at anything at a certain angle. It's hard to explain but, taking too much isn't all that bad, but it's best to try and take only enough to stay normal. Loperamide SAVED MY ASS!!!!!
 
benzico said:
this is just strange just go buy some proper opiates then you know for sure the buzz ya get.
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most people here are not going for a buzz...that buzz caused their dependancy/addiction.

they want releif..which you can and will get from loperamide depending hwo big your habit is
 
Does taking Loperamide when withdrawaling cause you to withdrawal for longer, or prolong it? I feel it makes me feel better, but i dont want to take it if its going to make me feel shitty for longer
 
kanyeknievel said:
Does taking Loperamide when withdrawaling cause you to withdrawal for longer, or prolong it? I feel it makes me feel better, but i dont want to take it if its going to make me feel shitty for longer
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It'll stop the runs and if you're not geting high, then you'l be fine most likely.
Good luck. Don't take more then you need to.
 
kanyeknievel said:
Does taking Loperamide when withdrawaling cause you to withdrawal for longer, or prolong it? I feel it makes me feel better, but i dont want to take it if its going to make me feel shitty for longer
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If you take doses under 25mg for a few days it shouldn't prolong the withdrawals too much and will give a significant amount of relief.

If you take big doses (50mg+) and/or take lope for longer than a few weeks, you will face withdrawals again.

Loperamide is a long acting opiate like methadone, and after long term use, it can cause pretty horrid, drawn out withdrawals from what I've read.
 
I've been taking daily doses of around 20-25mg for about a month since getting off Suboxone. It was backing me up really badly so I decided to stop pretty much cold turkey. I had 4mg yesterday and nothing today. I've noticed some withdrawal-like symptoms (sneezing, chills, aches). I figure it's either the Lope or I've just got a cold.
I just took 10mg so I'll see if that makes me feel any better.

Question - is tapering down from a fairly high dose (20-25mg) recommended or should cold turkey be OK?
 
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If you take doses under 25mg for a few days it shouldn't prolong the withdrawals too much and will give a significant amount of relief.

If you take big doses (50mg+) and/or take lope for longer than a few weeks, you will face withdrawals again.

Loperamide is a long acting opiate like methadone, and after long term use, it can cause pretty horrid, drawn out withdrawals from what I've read.
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I don't think it's that long acting man. I remember reading somewhere the half life was around 10 hours, which isn't that long.
 
^according to my Nurse's Drug Guide textbook, the half-life is 9-14.5 hours but the therapeutic effects last 24 hours.

When I used lope in w/d or to taper, generally I'd only dose once a day and that way it'd help me most of the day and I could still be regular and not backed up when it wore off shortly before my next dose.

Regulator- it depends how you feel man, if you are feeling sick from it (with those doses you were taking, I'd expect that) then just find a dose that holds you, doesn't cause excessive constipation (preferably in single daily doses as I mentioned) and then lower the dose by 1 or 2mg daily would be my advice.
 
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Thanks - I've been feeling a bit sick and figure it's linked to the lope. I've cut down to 10mg today and will drop 2mg a day. Cheers for clearing that up!
 
No problem, I have a good amount of experience using loperamide to maintain/withdraw (maintain as in for brief periods between using typical full agonists) so if you have any questions, feel free to PM me any time or ask away in here :)
 
I also use lope for w/d and for me, even though my tolerance is low i get no high from them but it does work wonders for most w/d symptoms. now i had a quick question, for me when i take a dose of lope it takes a lonngggg time to kick in about 3-5 hours sometimes, I dosed about 50mg last night around 430-5 and this morning i woke up and am itchy as hell. was wondering if lope causes the same histamine release as cns active opiates do?

I feel like i dosed some bupe last night at like midnight cause when i do that i wake up itchy and buzzed haha.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
^according to my Nurse's Drug Guide textbook, the half-life is 9-14.5 hours but the therapeutic effects last 24 hours.

When I used lope in w/d or to taper, generally I'd only dose once a day and that way it'd help me most of the day and I could still be regular and not backed up when it wore off shortly before my next dose.
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Does it really have prolonged wds like methadone though? That would suck, but I'm assuming they would be very mild withdrawal symptoms. I don't have any experience using lope as an aid in getting clean so I'm not sure. It sounds like something that may be of use to me when i give quitting my suboxone another go though.
 
^The only times I used it were either for a very short period of time (usually sandwiched between using morphine or hydrocodone) or as a gradual taper so I've never experienced the withdrawal.

I imagine it would be more drawn out than most short-acting opioids but as you said, considerably more mild. That's just my guess though.
 
I'm hoping I get a response even though it's been months since anyone has posted here. A little over two weeks ago, I started the process of getting off poppy pod tea. I was on it for probably three years, with no breaks. I tapered down toward the end, but I don't think it made much of a difference in my withdrawal symptoms.

After reading about Loperamide being used to relieve withdrawal symptoms, I started taking it as soon as I started withdrawal. I found that I had to take 60 mg to feel any real relief from withdrawal, and it did last about 24 hours before i dosed again. A few days ago, i cut down to 50, and it didn't last a full day, nor did it really relieve my symptoms.

Unfortunately, a week in to my withdrawal, I got my female monthly visitor, and I used Kratom in addition to Lope just to relieve my horrific cramps. Basically, I am seriously feeling like, at least in my case, that Loperamide is just a replacement for pod tea, and is only delaying my withdrawal.

I really wish I had just started with Kratom by itself, but when I had tried it before, I did such a small amount, that I didn't really feel any relief from my withdrawal symptoms. I've been taking Kratom for a little over a week now, but last week I tried it by itself without the Lope, and with the right dose, it totally helps with the symptoms of withdrawal, although it doesn't last as long as lope.

I really need some advice on using Kratom for withdrawal, or really any advice from any person that has experienced these things I speak of, and who understands that everyone is different in the way they react to substances - meaning someone who won't tell me to taper on the Lope, because it is pointless since dosages lower than 60 mgs are really not working anyway.

I do have to say that I think one has to take Lope on a completely empty stomach for it to work, and even then it can take 4 hours to work. One evening, a couple of hours after dinner, I crushed my 60 mg dose and mixed in it some Grapefruit juice and took it. A few hours later, I had to take 30 pills, because I never felt the effects of the first dose. That has been my experience, anyway.

I'm sorry if I'm rambling, but I NEED to be able to go back to work, and I have to get this Gorilla off my back. I would really appreciate some advice! Thanks much.
 
The point of tapering is allowing your body to GRADUALLY adjust to a lower dose. dropping your dose by 17% in one go isn't how you taper. You want to drop a mg per day or so (and with most lope preparations this is very easy).

If you want more advice on using kratom to taper, check out the kratom thread (its on the first page).

I successfully used loperamide to taper off of pods myself. I stabilized for about a week, then dropped 2 mg every other day and if I started to feel a little sick at all, I just stayed on that dose for a couple days so my body could adjust. I don't know why you think this isn't feasible, you just need to taper slower and not drop a large amount at one time.

Lastly, I posted in here a week ago (the dates on here are month-date-year)
 
Cane2theLeft said:
^The only times I used it were either for a very short period of time (usually sandwiched between using morphine or hydrocodone) or as a gradual taper so I've never experienced the withdrawal.

I imagine it would be more drawn out than most short-acting opioids but as you said, considerably more mild. That's just my guess though.
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One member of the bluelight crew (I'll avoid using his name even though he posts on these lope threads) has been using lope for about a year and says that when he stops taking lope he experiences severe withdrawals.

Everyone else that I've read about that takes large doses of lope for an extended period says the same thing.

I am pretty sure lope withdrawals are nothing to sneeze at. From what I know I'd take hydrocodone wd's over lope withdrawals.

After using lope for only 45 days and tapering down to 4mg a day, I still experienced insomnia, hot/cold flashes, heavy depression and general discomfort for ten days plus.
 
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