Bupe Buprenorphine Withdrawals

[Z Y G G Y]

My suggestion is to take the stuff in the cottons and plug it. That would be IMO the only safe ROA for the remainder of the cotton material. I wouldn't put it anywhere else in my body and there already is bacteria and stuff in your butthole.

Also when plugged you need less from my experience since the BA is higher than sublingual.

 

[bupemonkey]

Maybe some neurontin for the restless legs. I found 100 mg at night helped me. Don't go dosing kg's of that stuff, though. Some people claim Lyrica also helps, and there is some research results that Baclofen helps opioid w/d. No personal experience except with neurontin.

Yes, f' bupe withdrawals and f' Rickett Bensicker.

Have a sizeable number of people actually come off bupe and lived through the w/d's without switching to other opioids??

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Merged.

 

[ech0s85]

wait you guys get that bad of a kick off of .1 and .2 mgs?? how long were you on? Im about to get on sub and i thought jumping off at .5mgs was basically painless. scary.

 

[homeydontplaythat]

no i take 1-2mg IV ie 3.3-6.6sublingual....but i have been anticipating running out so i started cutting my pills smaller and smaller until i had like .1mg chips for the last 4 days. last night was fucking horrible. hot and cold, soaked in sweat, and my head hurt like i had cotton fever. really bad man. i feel ok now. i shot the rest of the coffee filters and i think there was a tiny bit of bupe in them. i think the biggest thing is that im on an antidepressant. if i wasnt on lexapro my anxiety would be BAD right now, fucking twitching, just freaking out. its all physical symptoms right now which is not that bad. makes me appreciate taking lexapro.

 

[rEcEivER.ione]

hi to all. I'm new here but I must say this is the best thread concerning this matter I found so far.
Anyway, I'm looking for some input. I've been on buprenorphine for close 4years. (initially H abuse) I really got sick of it and I'd never get onto it if I knew it would be this addictive. All in all, I've tappered my dose of 4mg (sometimes 6mg) to 0.25mg+- during a couple of months. Altough a dose that small never covered me completely and WD started aprox 12H after, increasing with time ofc. I have to mention it was I.V. use all the time :-(
I've tried to get off it completely a few times with no success. Tried tramadol wich really doesn't work for me since it gives me a unpleasent buzz (nausea). I guess due to it's serotonine and norepinephrine features. I'm now at day 4 without bupe, BUT- I'm taking 5mg methadone pills when needed. so far 3tbl used (one a day, one skipped). And I've never used that stuff before.
The question is, will this prolonge the WD or will it help in a way? And I really don't take metadone for a buzz, in fact I'm a bit scared of it. It's just that it's the only opiate I can get here.. Just taking it seeking for relief 'till the bupe is out of my system. And BTW- it doesn't cover me 100%, more like 70% wich is fine. Could this work or rather cold turkey?
not from US ( regarding my english)....

 

[Prelude2TragedyII]

hi to all. I'm new here but I must say this is the best thread concerning this matter I found so far.
Anyway, I'm looking for some input. I've been on buprenorphine for close 4years. (initially H abuse) I really got sick of it and I'd never get onto it if I knew it would be this addictive. All in all, I've tappered my dose of 4mg (sometimes 6mg) to 0.25mg+- during a couple of months. Altough a dose that small never covered me completely and WD started aprox 12H after, increasing with time ofc. I have to mention it was I.V. use all the time :-(
I've tried to get off it completely a few times with no success. Tried tramadol wich really doesn't work for me since it gives me a unpleasent buzz (nausea). I guess due to it's serotonine and norepinephrine features. I'm now at day 4 without bupe, BUT- I'm taking 5mg methadone pills when needed. so far 3tbl used (one a day, one skipped). And I've never used that stuff before.
The question is, will this prolonge the WD or will it help in a way? And I really don't take metadone for a buzz, in fact I'm a bit scared of it. It's just that it's the only opiate I can get here.. Just taking it seeking for relief 'till the bupe is out of my system. And BTW- it doesn't cover me 100%, more like 70% wich is fine. Could this work or rather cold turkey?
not from US ( regarding my english)....

How much methadone is that exactly btw?
And taking methadone will prolong the withdrawal after you ttry to stop taking methadone, methadone has a longer half-life, hence , longer withdrawal.
It may or may not be as intense as suboxone, depending on how long you take it and at what dose, I'd try to stay on as low of a dose as you can for as long as you can and just taper down from there ...

You planning on staying completely sober from opiates after this or no?

 

[rEcEivER.ione]

very low dose of methadone, 5mg per day. (day3,4,5), when the WD is at its peak. It helped a lot since I didn't have to go trough full intense WD. I only took like 3 5mg pills. I'm at day 8, still havin' some symptoms but it's not really bad, very mild now. So anyone who reads this post, this has worked for me so far, and some of you may try it.... Every WD is bad, but this wasn't as horrible as one can read on various sites.... It'll just scare you (like me). It's just important to tapper it down to a minimum (0.25/0.5mg). Otherwise it'll be to intense and most people would quit at some point.
I'm planning sober (hopefully). But I do have some cravings ofc.... though it's controllable. Well, maybe some recreational use of bupe every now and then, but that's not going to happen very soon really. Best never......

 

[WSB15]

wait you guys get that bad of a kick off of .1 and .2 mgs?? how long were you on? Im about to get on sub and i thought jumping off at .5mgs was basically painless. scary.

I was on Suboxone for a little over 3 years. I tapered down to about .3 mg and had the equivalent of a very bad flu for a week and a half. Nose never stops running, always on the can even taking several immodium, couldn't get too much sleep the first week even with sleeping pills. Very bad anxiety and an unstable mood for about 3-4 weeks total. It's certainly not painless so be prepared. It's not as bad as opiate withdrawal from a significant habit, but it lasts longer, which at least for me makes it worse. I'd hypothesize that the length of time you've been taking it influences it almost as much as the dose you drop from, so if you took it for a shorter period of time than I had, it might be a lot easier.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

^ that's not good news for me lol, i've been on about 3 years.. i CT at 6 months and it was a walk in the park with 4mg kpin a day, but now been on it about 3 years again and already taking 5mg kpin a day, i fear the day i need to come clean, especially if it's in jail like last time.

 

[homeydontplaythat]

something i heard a while ago which i find plausible: the amount of years you have been on it is the number of months you will kick. eg, 4 yrs on the shit its gonna take 4 months to kick. yes the WDs are mild but the fact that they last so fucking long makes it WAY worse than h to kick, hands fucking down. i mean if youve only taken it 1 yr, then its like a mild methadone kick(still rough). but once you get to 2 yrs there is NO WAY you can really dedicate that much time to kicking. how the fuck are you gonna get 2 months off work? its impossible! i actually get suicidal now if i go 2 weeks off the shit. it gets that bad. however, im on an ssri now so maybe it wouldnt be that bad. but just this last week i was out of it for a week and i almost started hating my gf and I LOVE THAT WOMAN. thats how much it fucks with me. didnt want to be touched, bathe, eat, waking up cumming on myself. fuck that shit. ill be on it for life and im fine with that. anyone that argues the analogy of it being to me what insulin is to diabetic can lick my balls.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

hopefully i can be on it for life also, im bipolar and i swear that the subs in combo with my zyprexa, clonidine, vistaril, atenolol, clonazepam, tizanidine, and occasional tramadol (scripted) or phenazepam (ordered, legal) are the only things that allow me to make it through the day.. i know it's bad to rely on meds to live, but i have to it seems.

 

[oldhead]

Its not a bad thing to have to use meds your whole life. Thats why they were made so they can offer a life to people who otherwise would have none.

 

[oldhead]

Nothing you can do safely there that I know of...

If you had two or three days, you could have ordered some kratom and had it at your house by now, ready to help you through this. As I said earlier, I've been through this, and kratom really makes it much more tolerable IMO.

Could you please explain how to take the kratom?? How much?? I'm down to 1mg of Suboxen every 24 hours. Thanks!!

 

[destiny_days]

I've been on sub for 5 years. Currently on 1.5mgs.

Can anybody give me tips in how to taper from here and what comfort meds are good to use while detoxing from sub?

 

[destiny_days]

Could you please explain how to take the kratom?? How much?? I'm down to 1mg of Suboxen every 24 hours. Thanks!!

Kratom doesnt do much for sub withdrawals. You have to literraly take kratom for 4 months if u want sub withdrawals and paws to go but then u have to withdrawa from kratom which is a beast in itself!. Also kratom wont take away much withdrawals while on sub or after. IMHO.

 

[Bojangles69]

Kratom doesnt do much for sub withdrawals. You have to literraly take kratom for 4 months if u want sub withdrawals and paws to go but then u have to withdrawa from kratom which is a beast in itself!. Also kratom wont take away much withdrawals while on sub or after. IMHO.

Kratom is great for wds I have no idea what you are talking about.

The withdrawals are also min at worse. I never even had any after 2 years of use everyday..

 

[oldhead]

Conflicting reports on Kratom. Please advise other posters.

 

[WSB15]

I've been on sub for 5 years. Currently on 1.5mgs.

Can anybody give me tips in how to taper from here and what comfort meds are good to use while detoxing from sub?

What worked for me was just reducing the dose by .5 at a time (every 2-4 weeks), then waiting til I felt totally normal on that dose, then dropping it a bit more. Suboxone is easy to taper, and with each dose decrease you won't feel any real withdrawal, just a bit of boredom, apathy, maybe some increased anxiety. I tapered down to about 0.3 mg and then hopped off. If you use the search engine you'll find a lot of info about what meds will help, but immodium, clonidine, and benzos are probably the best. PM me if you have any questions.

 

[Pegasus]

Could you please explain how to take the kratom?? How much?? I'm down to 1mg of Suboxen every 24 hours. Thanks!!

Take as much as needed, as seldom as you can get by with. I would start with 6g encapsulated into 00 size caps. If those weren't available, I'd take the 6g and wrap it in tissue paper into a bunch of parachutes and take it that way, until you can get your hands on some gel caps (not hard). You can take bigger doses and take them frequently but that may start to push your limits of your stomach. Personally, 2, maybe 3 doses a day kept me from being sick and gave me a fair amount of energy. If you can get by on less kratom, that's good too. It gives effects well below 6g, starting around 3g. Since you have a sub tolerance, I'd recommend starting at 6g, though.

What you're basically doing is keeping yourself from getting sick with the kratom. You feel bad, you take some... This goes on until you don't feel the withdrawals anymore and then you can start phasing out the kratom. It is lightly addicting, something along the lines of caffeine addiction, that can come with abuse, but you will have to take for long periods of time (months) at decently large doses for it to become any kind of serious physical addiction, IMO/ IME.