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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOB Thread

Curly, see if you can get that report, because I'm really interested to see what your sister and her friend actually took, or more to the point, what the toxicologist's interpretation of the findings are (they're not always right :\ )

BTW, I didn't mean to come off as heartless in the above post, I'm glad they're okay, relatively-speaking--and I hope the trauma isn't long-lasting.

A hard lesson, in any event... :(
 
Well, say it was DOB and not LSD, how long is expected for a full recovery and what kind of long lasting effects can persist?
 
It's sort of hard to say. With LSD at normal doses, there's always a chance of psychological issues with people who are predisposed, i.e., LSD could catalyze underlying mental instabilities. There is also a slight chance of physiological problems such as HPPD even in mentally balanced people.

Less is known about DOB than acid simply because the history of its use in the drug culture is far less extensive. Unlike LSD, it has caused deaths and physiological injury at doses beginning around 20 to 30 times the effective dose. In other words, if we take an effective dose to be 2 mg (and some people seem to be very affected at 1 mg), a dosage of 50 mg could quite possibly cause serious injury or death, and in some people this dosage could be even lower.

Assuming what your sister and her friend took was DOB, if one were to estimate that--on the outside--each blotter contained 5 mg (which is possible with the big rainbow blotters), then they would have each consumed as much as 12.5 mg of the drug.

It appears that such a dose for most people is quite a big one, and very capable of inducing vasoconstriction problems. But seeing as they both survived, in all likelihood any lasting problems will be related to the psychological trauma they experienced from such a dose.

So in my own inexpert opinion, the thing I would watch out for in the short- to mid-term would be PTSD.
 
DOI has been known to cause long long effects in two of my friends. I'm pretty sure it could be similiar with DOB (like aftereffects lasting up to 3 days).

I haven't followed this thread, but does the person that is in an uncomfortable spot have access to benzos and a friend that they can talk to (lot of this stuff is just ongoing psychological issues).

sorry for not paying attention to the previous pages and maybe missing some points, just my (hopefully) helpful cents.
 
I agree with tobala above, that the main problem now to deal with will be any remaining psychological issues.

Having a 'rap session' where you guys talk out your feelings is probably a very good idea (good idea anyways with close friends to do this somewhat regularly).
 
Update on sister: Still depressed very much, wont take her zoloft or take anything we try to give her.... we are about to get her evaluated.
 
My guess is that the depression is the result of what was experienced, not due to a physical reaction of the drug. I think moreso than antidepressants, it would be good to sit your sister down and talk with her about it, perhaps with a professional. Psychedelic experiences can be traumatic, but trying to suppress or deny it will only make it worse.

Good luck <3 What she may need is for people to show her that they care and that she is not alone. She may feel like she is the only one who is real and she is all alone in the world (just a guess).
 
CurlyPLURR said:
Update on sister: Still depressed very much, wont take her zoloft or take anything we try to give her.... we are about to get her evaluated.
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thats the problem
Someone who is taking medication for depression has no need to be messing around with psychedelics.

I hope she gets better and learned her lesson.
 
^^^^ Agree with Delsyd. The Zoloft info is a new development insofar as what we know about Curly's sister. Was the sister's friend on antidepressants also?

Could the DO-x series cause special problems for people who are taking them?
 
My second trip ever i ingested approximately 3.5-4 mg of D.O.B. This experience became the most intense experience in my nearly 16 years of life. The visuals were amazing and the head space gave me an incredible comparison to that of consensus reality. I fried HARD for over 30 hours. During this time i experienced what i believe is true ego death and was lost in the void. I had no concept of self and was truly mind fucked. I would never take this experience back and i believe it led me to embracing the Dharma.
 
Hey welcome to BL! Please look on the first page of this forum and find my thread titled ego death on PEAs.

PLEASE expand on your trip and talk about how it changed you positively in the long run. Very interested!

peace and love,
samadhi
 
entheo said:
My second trip ever i ingested approximately 3.5-4 mg of D.O.B. This experience became the most intense experience in my nearly 16 years of life. The visuals were amazing and the head space gave me an incredible comparison to that of consensus reality. I fried HARD for over 30 hours. During this time i experienced what i believe is true ego death and was lost in the void. I had no concept of self and was truly mind fucked. I would never take this experience back and i believe it led me to embracing the Dharma.
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Groovy!

I second samadhi's suggestion and I'm sure our trip reports forum would look forward to hearing your experience, as would I & our ego death thread as well.

It's always nice to hear from some young people with good heads on their shoulders. There's a few of y'all on PD who continually impress me with your maturity. Look forward to hearing from you again and a warm welcome to our little corner of the internet!

<3
 
oh SKL, you never know how old someone is until they tell you ;]
age is definitely about maturity more than anything. :]
 
So, LSD vs. DOB (Your Opinions Please)

I am just wondering if one were have been tricked into taking DOB (when told it was LSD), would it be worth it to go for the real deal? Are the differences great enough that it would be worthwhile for someone that plans on just doing it once or twice their entire lives, just for the experience? Or can one just say, oh, well, DOB was pretty cool, so the LSD experience could be estimated from one's DOB experience.

And it would be great if you could describe the qualitative differences between the two substances.

Thanks in advance for any info!!
 
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please do remove SWIM from your post. SWIM makes the post unreadable and does nothing to protect you.
i have never tried DOB, but from what i've heard it's quite different from LSD and most people in fact tend to hold LSD much higher than DOB.
 
Black said:
please do remove SWIM from your post. SWIM makes the post unreadable and does nothing to protect you.
i have never tried DOB, but from what i've heard it's quite different from LSD and most people in fact tend to hold LSD much higher than DOB.
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QFT... SWIM makes things really annoying, and LSD is definitely worth trying on it's own... make sure you do a decent dose of it.
 
I have not tried DOB, but I would rather have DOC or DOI than lsd.
 
egor said:
I have not tried DOB, but I would rather have DOC or DOI than lsd.
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Really?
Do you get bad effects from LSD or do you just think the DOC/I high is better than an LSD high.
Have you had a proper dose of LSD? im assuming you have judging from your other experiences, but i dont actually recall about LSD in particular.

I have never tried DOB but have done both DOI and DOC.
The DOx drugs were accomponied by a over stimulating body high, sometimes nausea and vomiting, and the head high was speedy aswell, my thoughts were very mixed up rather than being clear and lucid like on LSD.

i obviously prefer LSD. and to the OP i would recomend seaking out the real deal rather than settling for DOB.

<3 <3 <3
 
Never had access to DOB, though DOM is quite an experience. I didn't get said speedy head high, though I was much more generally stimulated than with LSD.

I would take a fairly high DOM dose over a few blots of acid any day. Then again all I can ever get is really shitty acid.

Fuck em' both, get yourself some 2c-b. Most fun I've had with any drug.
 
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