Anyone else find it interesting that Latherdome, the only person that was consistently arguing the validity of the church, created account the same day as his initial response. After thread kinda quieted down, no longer to be seen and afaik not posted in any other threads.
Seems like schilly behavior to me.
I have written here about my experience with the church's sacrament, not arguing anything about the church, and I stand by my words. I found this forum by search on psilomethoxin, not having strong enough an interest in psychs besides the psilocybes I forage to have joined forum earlier. I have no interest in the church per se other than as source of this substance.
I'm still microdosing it most days, and it's still not psilocybin (though it may contain some of that too). I don't know what it is. I know that I appreciate the unique effects. I think the church erred in investing so much in the claim that they'd made psilomethoxin in advance of proof. Especially after the USONA paper, I agree that the ball is in church's court to validate their claims of having produced a novel compound or combination. That's most of why I stopped posting. If you're wanting to know more about what I think, or chase down whether I'm a shill, I have posted over 100 comments on Reddit using this same handle, including many after my brief participation here.
I will say that what church distributes is inconsistent. I have now tried 7 separately packaged samples. 4 are legit, some more than others. 3 are not, possibly just weak cubes. I don't cry fraud: I cry "please implement good manufacturing processes." Another confounding factor is that those with extensive 5-MeO-DMT experience (I have none) often report reactivations of 5 when consuming psilocybin, meaning church principals using bio-assay as QC aren't effective. I wonder whether some or all of the LCMS fails to date have been with bunk product.
The church hired a chemist with GMP credentials to do the work they should have earlier. He's the only church person I've met in person, when he traveled through my Portland hometown. We went camping, and talked a lot. They are building (as in pouring a slab, swinging a hammer) a lab in Florida, and they recently took receipt of heavy equipment with forklift. Hiring interns who like washing glassware etc. This follows months of in-silico simulation of what might be happening in vivo. I can't say more, but I expect a peer-reviewed paper to emerge from these efforts, finally validating how the church's sacrament is not just plain cubes as alleged, but something unexpected and good, as bio-assay continues to indicate.
If they fail to show what they have, I think the church will likely evaporate. If they succeed, then regardless what happens with the church, the tek will have been validated and carried on, improved, by other parties.
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I agree, psychedelics are like the opposite of religion. I leaned long ago to not get stuck on ANY belief system. That keeps me open and sane. Had a few friends give up psychedelics and started going to Catholic Church. We know others in the 60's became Hari Krishna's. Others went on to some very weird stuff all because they got stuck on a belief system, which to me psychedelics are suppose to cut through that and just BE. Just Being. What is wrong with that?? Gah!!!
