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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards | negrogesic

If cocaine blocks reuptake of dopamine..

Higherfocus420 said:
There is no safe cocaine use if you're worried about that then don't use and mixing opiates is dangerous as well but I can't use without some sort of downer
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That just doesn't make sense - you can play to different levels of safety for sure. It's clear.

Cocaine plus alcohol is significantly more dangerous than cocaine on it's own. It's a fact.

It's unsafe to cross the road, and even moreso without checking if any cars are approaching. So should we not bother to check? Or maybe we just shouldn't cross the road at all?

Come on
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
That just doesn't make sense - you can play to different levels of safety for sure. It's clear.

Cocaine plus alcohol is significantly more dangerous than cocaine on it's own. It's a fact.

It's unsafe to cross the road, and even moreso without checking if any cars are approaching. So should we not bother to check? Or maybe we just shouldn't cross the road at all?

Come on
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Almost everyone I know who sniffs cocaine combines alcohol with it cocaine isn't safe even one line can kill you
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
That just doesn't make sense - you can play to different levels of safety for sure. It's clear.

Cocaine plus alcohol is significantly more dangerous than cocaine on it's own. It's a fact.

It's unsafe to cross the road, and even moreso without checking if any cars are approaching. So should we not bother to check? Or maybe we just shouldn't cross the road at all?

Come on
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How much more dangerous is cocaine with alcohol then cocaine alone? 10x?
 
Higherfocus420 said:
Almost everyone I know who sniffs cocaine combines alcohol with it cocaine isn't safe even one line can kill you
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I know cocaine isn't safe friend - so why make it even more dangerous? It's not safe to drive at 100mph on the motorway. Why make it even more unsafe by doing it one handed while texting your mate?

You see on this subforum homepage it says "Introductory-level drug and harm reduction advice" Your advice here to potentiate coke with alcohol is the opposite of that. If you insist on being reckless then crack on, no judgement, I've been reckless too, most of us have. Please don't advise others to be reckless though?

In my circles, and I'm talking over the last 35 years or so and a very wide demographic, I'd say it's a 50-50 split. Loads of people mix them, loads don't.
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
I know cocaine isn't safe friend - so why make it even more dangerous? It's not safe to drive at 100mph on the motorway. Why make it even more unsafe by doing it one handed while texting your mate?

You see on this subforum homepage it says "Introductory-level drug and harm reduction advice" Your advice here to potentiate coke with alcohol is the opposite of that. If you insist on being reckless then crack on, no judgement, I've been reckless to, most of us have. Please don't advise others to be reckless though?

In my circles, and I'm talking over the last 35 years or so and a very wide demographic, I'd say it's a 50-50 split. Loads of people mix them, loads don't.
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I don't mix it with alcohol when I'm in the car doing a line on the way to somewhere ( not driving btw). I do mix it when it's late at night and party time
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
That just doesn't make sense - you can play to different levels of safety for sure. It's clear.

Cocaine plus alcohol is significantly more dangerous than cocaine on it's own. It's a fact.

It's unsafe to cross the road, and even moreso without checking if any cars are approaching. So should we not bother to check? Or maybe we just shouldn't cross the road at all?

Come on
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Could surely too be v dangerous in say a cold turkey final benzo or alcohol WD stage, at the point any potential seizure might occur. To use cocaine then.

I wonder now if or surely how many in time such cases have occurred, where cocaine use during WD or cold turkey has triggered it.
 
AutoTripper said:
Could surely too be v dangerous in say a cold turkey final benzo or alcohol WD stage, at the point any potential seizure might occur. To use cocaine then.

I wonder now if or surely how many in time such cases have occurred, where cocaine use during WD or cold turkey has triggered it.
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couldn't tell you friend, no idea - does sound like it could be pretty risky though

I would imagine a coke comedown in those scenarios would be brutal - but there wouldn't be any cocaethylene produced
 
new2drugs said:
At least cocaine wears off after 45 minutes max. Not long to wait unlike some other substances 🤮.
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Yes. Except I've always disputed that.

Although I believe I was privy to sublime q cocaine near London early 00's

And crack too. So cheap as well then.

Like 60 quid a teenth topped crack.


Regardless, I was never myself initiating cocaine use just flowing with friends.

Mostly a psychonaut. But I bet I sniffed over 150 grams of the stuff, still!

And hated crack's instant effect on personality, on me.

Still over 60 times used but never a thing.



The point. We'd score a 0.8 gr of Peruvian Flake, share 3 ways evening.

Next afternoon river friends, I'm still off my head from it.


It must be dire coke maybe expires that way??
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
couldn't tell you friend, no idea - does sound like it could be pretty risky though

I would imagine a coke comedown in those scenarios would be brutal - but there wouldn't be any cocaethylene produced
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It's the comeup though I ponder. Coke can get the heart going a bit.

Huge crack hits way more so. But if and it's surely happened people have used coke at a key WD point prone to seizure

To me it seems logical strong cocaine stimulation might actually fuel a seizure where the stage of WD maybe not even disclosed to others is involved.

Just occurred to me. I'd advise caution there anyway lol. :)
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Quite the opposite.

Cocaine hcl halflife is just under an hour

If it's still affecting you the next day then your coke has an active stimulant cut
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Maybe it's just myself then? Because was a lifelong experience and I sampled C & CR from all directions, and right near London early 2000's did seem the place for really good legit cocaine and crack.

This though, is not my expertise in any way only life's exp to go by.
 
AutoTripper said:
Maybe it's just myself then? Because was a lifelong experience and I sampled C & CR from all directions, and right near London early 2000's did seem the place for really good legit cocaine and crack.

This though, is not my expertise in any way only life's exp to go by.
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Looks like it , yeah.

Cocaine just does not last that long, so I dunno what was going on there!
 
ageingpartyfiend said:
Looks like it , yeah.

Cocaine just does not last that long, so I dunno what was going on there!
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It's an overall dosage thing too I should mention.

My friends scored v good stuff then for England. After 0.3-0.5 grams I'm just saying IME next day I was still feeling I'd done a strong class A all day.
 
AutoTripper said:
It's an overall dosage thing too I should mention.

My friends scored v good stuff then for England. After 0.3-0.5 grams I'm just saying IME next day I was still feeling I'd done a strong class A all day.
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well nobody can argue with your subjective experience, I would never presume to do so

That is not a large dose however, and (under any metric I have encountered) is an impossibility with direct regard to the cocaine still being active in your system;)

I would imagine you were just feeling a comedown, but who knows. Whatever it was (and I'm sure you were feeling something, as you are not of a disningenuous character and are therefore speaking your truth) it was not facilitated by active cocaine. If not a comedown, then my (educated) guess is an active stimulant cut.

Also, just as an aside. Loads of people have literally never had high quality cocaine but they think they have. When they do have high quality uncut, they often think it is poor quality , because they are expecting something different. By your own statement, this is not your area of expertise. Somewhat unfortunately, it is (was) one of mine. The purity of cocaine in uk in the early 2000's was pretty bad in general, and nearly all of it had active cuts. The average purity around then was around 20%. Of course sometimes maybe up to 40% was being sold at street level, but the clutch factor was that it still had active cuts in it. Nobody was getting primo at that point unless you knew someone high up in the chain. I have never in my life heard anyone claim actual, proven high purity cocaine to (actively, not residually) last over an hour or so, so there's that :Sherlock:

@nznity , what say you my man?
 
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ageingpartyfiend said:
I know cocaine isn't safe friend - so why make it even more dangerous? It's not safe to drive at 100mph on the motorway. Why make it even more unsafe by doing it one handed while texting your mate?

You see on this subforum homepage it says "Introductory-level drug and harm reduction advice" Your advice here to potentiate coke with alcohol is the opposite of that. If you insist on being reckless then crack on, no judgement, I've been reckless too, most of us have. Please don't advise others to be reckless though?

In my circles, and I'm talking over the last 35 years or so and a very wide demographic, I'd say it's a 50-50 split. Loads of people mix them, loads don't.
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Everyone was mentioning about using opiates too make it more euphoric I was just stating that combining alcohol potentiates it making it more euphoric also but yea its more cardio toxic
 
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