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magicburrito

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I live in the u.s.a and im wondering if theres any legal substances/ rc's that i can order that are like lsd or like mdma. Not going to use the dark web either. Im trying to stay legal.
 
Welcome magicburrito. There is a ton of information in this forum, I am going to encourage you to reach for some of it. Because once you have a little knowledge, you can make your own wise decisions.

Even just typing in a substance name in the search can start you on your way. There are different contexts of legal. I guess if you were in Colorado or Oregon mushrooms are legal. But Bluelight can’t dice and slice legal questions.

I mean, if you have more specific questions on specific substances, I can for sure answer. But I know if I really wanted to know about the stuff I would dig into this forum. And the definition of legal sure has changed over the years.
 
I was looking into this just a few days back and when it comes to legal stuff like at a smoke shop, most of the crap there like herbal ecstacy or eclipse(things that are supposed to be similar to MDMA), actually just turn out to be weak yet jittery shitty feeling type of stimulation.

I guess you could try Salvia as it is a very very powerful hallucinogen. If you know nothing about it, you better do your research before going this direction. I guess you could smoke a lil hit of Salvia from a weed pipe, and this will definitely still get somewhat strange/intense to most ppl.(PS this is not "breaking through")

Other than this IDK maybe go the Nitrous dissociatives route or DXM( Dextromethorphan ingredient in cough syrup/ robitussin gels).

I don't know much of RC's but something tells me it's only accessible on dark web..which I don't fucks with even though I would like to.

All in all I believe this to be an interesting thread because I am also always looking for something legal and psychoactive.
 
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Opana313 said:
I was looking into this just a few days back and when it comes to legal stuff like at a smoke shop, most of the crap there like herbal ecstacy or eclipse(things that are supposed to be similar to MDMA), actually just turn out to be weak yet jittery shitty feeling type of stimulation.

I guess you could try Salvia as it is a very very powerful hallucinogen. If you know nothing about it, you better do your research before going this direction. I guess you could smoke a lil hit of Salvia from a weed pipe, and this will definitely still get somewhat strange/intense to most ppl.(PS this is not "breaking through")

Other than this IDK maybe go the Nitrous dissociatives route or DXM( Dextromethorphan ingredient in cough syrup/ robitussin gels).

I don't know much of RC's but something tells me it's only accessible on dark web..which I don't fucks with even though I would like to.

All in all I believe this to be an interesting thread because I am also always looking for something legal and psychoactiv
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Nitrous is a win! And kratom is another great legal one as well. But iv heard about heavenly blue morning glory seeds being pretty cool but hard to dose out. San pedro cactuse is legal and can be alot of fun. But recently i went into my head shop and found "mushroom gummies" by a brand called "dozo" aparently its amineta mascaria but legal idk how but i wana try it. Im just waiting to hear more reviews of it befor im a test subject.
 
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Yeah Kratom I take all the time and LSA is great, you should check out the LSH thread..San Pedro I have been dying to try(& other cacti) but salvia illegal now? No it's not a controlled substance but a number of States have banned it. I believe?
 
xtcgrrrl said:
I tried morning glory seeds a long time ago, when I was a kid. Wasn’t impressed. I had ready access to the hard (illegal) stuff so maybe it was just weak in comparison? 🤔
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Thanks for the reply. Iv heard some really insane trip reports about morning glory. They said there whole body was desolving and falling apart. That was followed by ego death. But thats the thing about morning glory seed. You can eat two seeds and trip super hard. Or you eat ten and feel nothing.
 
Oh yeah mushroom gummies...wtf right? I went into my local weed store(CBD, D8, everything except real good chronic) and they had something similar I think the brand was shruuumz? I read the back of one and it had hemp, lions mushroom? And other type of fungus. I think I need to go back and take a better look, might have found something that is beneficial.
 
Opana313 said:
Yeah Kratom I take all the time and LSA is great, you should check out the LSH thread..San Pedro I have been dying to try(& other cacti) but salvia illegal now? No it's not a controlled substance but a number of States have banned it. I believe?
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My san. P story is crazy. My sister just got a new apartment on a side of town i havint been to befor. we were having a house warming party, then my grandpa showd up and he said " did you know your mom used to live down the street from here when she was 6 years old?" Sadly Our mom has been dead for 9 month when he was telling us that. So we decided to visit her child hood house and on the way there it was! Two houses away from my moms old house stood a huge cluster of san pedro cactus i mean this thing was at least 12 foot tall. As soon as i saw it i knew exactly what needs to happen lmao. Later that night we came back and stole about 4 foot of this cactuse and we tripped with our mother in mind. Almost as if it were a gift from her. She always liked to trip. It was beautiful!
 
Cactus is awesome. Fresh Morning Glory seeds can be great too. Legal, but how legal to ingest? Probably not but also not really enforced. The old saying, just be cool! :)

And we can check on the changes every few years. I can't believe cannabis is legal and I can buy some right next to my town deli.
 
I was reading about calamus root?which is in a different thread but seems like something I could definitely tinker with but who knows might just be as psychoactive as nutmeg..
 
Opana313 said:
I was reading about calamus root?which is in a different thread but seems like something I could definitely tinker with but who knows might just be as psychoactive as nutmeg..
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Oof, I would give calamus root a pass. I don't think you're going to find that worth your while. Nutmeg is definitely active, but long lasting and with an unpleasant hangover. There are few of any nutmeg fans out there. If you go that route, it's best to grate it very fresh and dose about a tablespoon a day over several days to get to the active dose. You'll likely want to budget a week from start to finish, I'm told. Not recommended.

Most of what we talk about in Psychedelic Drugs are legal or at least in a gray area of the controlled substances analog act. Others, like mushrooms or cacti or cannabis, are legal in various cities, states, or countries.

If you want to go the morning glory route, the strains that I hear the best things about are Pearly Gates, Flying Saucers and Heavenly Blues. You want to get them as absolutely fresh as possible. Growing them and picking them fresh off the plant is the optimal way to take them. Cold water extraction of the ground powder in distilled water in your fridge overnight is advisable. Then filter through a coffee filter. That is supposed to cut down on nausea.
 
I thought this was going to be a sourcing thread I had to close when I saw the title, but I'm pleased to see it isn't. There are some good suggestions in this thread. I just wanted to say as a reminder, we need to stay away from any sort of asking for or providing actual sources for things, even if they're legal. Talking about what substances there are is totally fine - providing links to websites or anything like that is not fine.
 
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But thats the thing about morning glory seed. You can eat two seeds and trip super hard. Or you eat ten and feel nothing.
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I think you might be thinking of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. That sounds about right dosage-wise for them, although I personally wouldn't take ten because the side effects could be just awful.

An average dose of morning glory seeds take about 3-6g (approximately 35 seeds a gram) according to Erowid.
 
Be mindful that kratom is an opioid. It won't cause respiratory depression on its own, but it does have the potential to be addictive.
 
I’ve never seen anybody confirm that the asarones in calamus root get converted to TMA upon ingestion. That has been the notion for years but not much info.
 
Pfafffed said:
I think you might be thinking of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose. That sounds about right dosage-wise for them, although I personally wouldn't take ten because the side effects could be just awful.

An average dose of morning glory seeds take about 3-6g (approximately 35 seeds a gram) according to Erowid.
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So you are saying if its Hawaiian woodrose you only need 2 seeds or 2 grams worth of seeds?..which would have to be from a fresh grown morning glory picked seeds from a Hawaiian woodrose that was grown correct? Seems to easy to just buy a packet or 2 and CWE....or can that work as well?

It's been a long time since I messed with them. I think I dosed to low only got a few tracers and lil bit of CEV.
 
Opana313 said:
So you are saying if its Hawaiian woodrose you only need 2 seeds or 2 grams worth of seeds?..which would have to be from a fresh grown morning glory picked seeds from a Hawaiian woodrose that was grown correct? Seems to easy to just buy a packet or 2 and CWE....or can that work as well?

It's been a long time since I messed with them. I think I dosed to low only got a few tracers and lil bit of CEV.
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Any fresh picked MG seeds of the correct variety are more potent than store bought seeds of the same variety because the LSA decomposes fairly rapidly. CWE is fine but again fresh seeds will have more potency than store purchased seeds in the same process.
There's a thread around here somewhere ( I've looked in all my pockets but can't find it ) that has an interesting "Tek" for treating the seeds with sherry to make the LSA more available, look for it and check it out if you're interested in stuff like that.

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Yes there are a few legal highs but pretty much all of them are shit. And they're usually more expensive than the illegal stuff that actually works.
 
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