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I am a huge fan of psilocin and on the one occasion that I got to try pure psilocin benzoate, the onset was much faster and the high was stronger but duration was somewhat less.
I'm interested to know if anyone has successfully extracted psilocin from mushrooms. I read that only 1% of mushrooms is psilocin and so presume that it would have to be carried out on a large scale to minimize mechanical losses. I see clinically that 15-30mg of psilocin seems to be the usual dose range.
I appreciate the fact that it's shorter duration means that one can take a dose at say 2PM and then still expect to get to sleep in the evening whereas with LSD it seems to take 18 hours for the results to fully subside and lack of sleep is very bad for my epilepsy and some other medical issues.
Sadly it's not a simple chemical to make but I've tried a number of homologues and almost all of them were inferior by far. 5MeO-DMT made me feel like an elephant had sat on me (and 5MeO AMT was just AWFUL) and the various different N-substitutions did not produce a better product. In fact, the ONLY homologue that was significantly better was DPT and (R)AMT - the latter being indistinguishable from MDMA. (S)AMT is like psilocin on steroids so resolution of the isomers is a very important step. I did try a low dose of AET but I'm aware of it's MAOI activity so I was careful. It doesn't need to be resolved as the extra methyl means it will not fit into the 5HT2a receptor.
If you live in a nation that only controls RCs one by one, I can attest to the fact that 7,N,N-TMT (7-methyl DMT) is identical to DMT and 7-AMT is identical to AMT.
Lastly, I suggest people try overlaying 2CB (or similar) with 5-MeO DMT. You will notice that the 2-MeO overlays the N of the indole while the 5-MeO overlays the 5-MeO of 5MeO-DMT. That is why two seemingly different compounds bind in such a similar manner. I THINK people have tried substituting the 6 position of indole-based psychoactives but it didn't work.
But if you live in a nation where AMT is still legal, it is well worth resolving the 2 isomers One of them is a legal MDMA alternative (and I mean it - it's vastly better than that 5/6 APB stuff.
I'm interested to know if anyone has successfully extracted psilocin from mushrooms. I read that only 1% of mushrooms is psilocin and so presume that it would have to be carried out on a large scale to minimize mechanical losses. I see clinically that 15-30mg of psilocin seems to be the usual dose range.
I appreciate the fact that it's shorter duration means that one can take a dose at say 2PM and then still expect to get to sleep in the evening whereas with LSD it seems to take 18 hours for the results to fully subside and lack of sleep is very bad for my epilepsy and some other medical issues.
Sadly it's not a simple chemical to make but I've tried a number of homologues and almost all of them were inferior by far. 5MeO-DMT made me feel like an elephant had sat on me (and 5MeO AMT was just AWFUL) and the various different N-substitutions did not produce a better product. In fact, the ONLY homologue that was significantly better was DPT and (R)AMT - the latter being indistinguishable from MDMA. (S)AMT is like psilocin on steroids so resolution of the isomers is a very important step. I did try a low dose of AET but I'm aware of it's MAOI activity so I was careful. It doesn't need to be resolved as the extra methyl means it will not fit into the 5HT2a receptor.
If you live in a nation that only controls RCs one by one, I can attest to the fact that 7,N,N-TMT (7-methyl DMT) is identical to DMT and 7-AMT is identical to AMT.
Lastly, I suggest people try overlaying 2CB (or similar) with 5-MeO DMT. You will notice that the 2-MeO overlays the N of the indole while the 5-MeO overlays the 5-MeO of 5MeO-DMT. That is why two seemingly different compounds bind in such a similar manner. I THINK people have tried substituting the 6 position of indole-based psychoactives but it didn't work.
But if you live in a nation where AMT is still legal, it is well worth resolving the 2 isomers One of them is a legal MDMA alternative (and I mean it - it's vastly better than that 5/6 APB stuff.