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^ This is a great tutorial on how to use the dark net. Well written and full of good advice. The OP obviously needs to use it.......or find a new dealer as you're right... he's not gonna get any desoxyn. And his wife doesn't even know he's on the stuff. He either gets a new wife, a new dealer, starts cooking or goes on the dark side.

My question is ...........Is using the Dark web illegal? I have never used it as when I was using drugs there was plenty to be had.
 
Nurse Ratched said:
^ This is a great tutorial on how to use the dark net. Well written and full of good advice. The OP obviously needs to use it.......or find a new dealer as you're right... he's not gonna get any desoxyn. And his wife doesn't even know he's on the stuff. He either gets a new wife, a new dealer, starts cooking or goes on the dark side.

My question is ...........Is using the Dark web illegal? I have never used it as when I was using drugs there was plenty to be had.
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No it is not.

TOR was originally created by the.. Navy? (sic), people will say FBI or whatever but that's not true.

It was meant to be able to allow people in nations with oppressive regimes to access certain parts of the internet, ie, insurgents. It's now been taken by an open source developer.

There are lots of legal websites on TOR (The NYT has a website, pornhub has a website with a .onion, etc etc). It's one of those cases where "It's not illegal to have an auction... but it is illegal to auction narcotics."

edit: to clarify, even browsing is not illegal. The moment you place an order though, you cross the legal line. You may also, if you for instance placed an order but didn't pay, possibly end up with an "intent to purchase" type charge, but imo any competent lawyer can beat that.
 
acklac7 said:
That's going to involve shipping, though, unless he gets a P.O. Box. Also, as you eluded to you have to learn the darknets. There's a trial-and-error approach, you have to learn how to find the right vendors. The first few times you're likely to get scammed, or worse, N-ISO'd. I'd rather him run out of Meth than get N-ISO'd.
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N- Iso is such a myth it's not even funny.

It has zero psychotropic effects whatsoever. That means that there is no rush, no high, nothing. It's also incredibly easy to identify. You'd get some tachycardia and probably very sick to your stomach if you actually did get it (you probably didn't))
 
Let me just say, that hiding a drug using lifestyle from your significant other WILL inevitably blow up in your face. Please don't believe that you will be able to sustain that. My ex wife was against psychedelics and all non-weed drugs, and I hid it from her throughout our whole relationship, after an initial period of trying to share what I was doing, and being told that I was a stupid kid, immature, etc, for doing psychedelics. I kept up my double life for 10 years, but eventually it blew up in my face, and boy did it blow up. She came to find out that I had been lying to her for a decade. Understandably, she no longer had any ability to be able to trust me. The realization that I lied to that magnitude was something we couldn't recover from.

In my case, that was a good thing because we were not good for each other, and she was very controlling and emotionally abusive. But if you value this relationship, you need to be honest with her, because it's not "if" the house of cards will come crumbling down, but "when".
 
Jerry Atrick said:
With the darknet turn this thread has taken, it really doesn't apply to harm reduction or support for people with drug problems. While the info is valuable, it really isn't Dark Side material. Sorry to move it again but I'm going to send it to Drug Culture.

TDS -> DC
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Thanks; I agree. To me harm reduction includes finding and ensuring what you're buying is reputable, though I suppose I am calling it 'opsec harm reduction'.
 
foxymethoxyxoxo said:
Okay, free opsec/dnm lesson; trying to keep this as legal as possible to explain.
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If OP is interested in researching online markets, then the 'Darknet Market Noobs Buyer's Bible' and 'xmrguide' may be worth Googling.
The former contains steps for how to easily create an encrypted Tails USB stick and use PGP key encryption amongst other technologies. The latter teaches people how to invest in the cryptocurrency 'Monero'.
I cannot condone that anyone follows such guides, but they are certainly quite interesting to read.
 
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Negentropic said:
it took me a few days to learn everything, after that I was never scammed, never ran into any issues and received 100% of my gear

it's not that difficult, but does take patience, study, and more importantly common sense (if something seems too good to be true, it probably is)

also for the record NEVER use a P.O. box from USPS-- you want a mailbox from a private company or mail store (UPS store, FedEx store, or smaller business, but NOT USPS).
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Whats the risk of using a PO Box from usps?
 
Xorkoth said:
Let me just say, that hiding a drug using lifestyle from your significant other WILL inevitably blow up in your face. Please don't believe that you will be able to sustain that. My ex wife was against psychedelics and all non-weed drugs, and I hid it from her throughout our whole relationship, after an initial period of trying to share what I was doing, and being told that I was a stupid kid, immature, etc, for doing psychedelics. I kept up my double life for 10 years, but eventually it blew up in my face, and boy did it blow up. She came to find out that I had been lying to her for a decade. Understandably, she no longer had any ability to be able to trust me. The realization that I lied to that magnitude was something we couldn't recover from.

In my case, that was a good thing because we were not good for each other, and she was very controlling and emotionally abusive. But if you value this relationship, you need to be honest with her, because it's not "if" the house of cards will come crumbling down, but "when".
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I see the logic behind your advice, and thank you for your words of wisdom on the subject. I really appreciate it. Your experience is something that had been a fear of mine for quite a long time. Constantly being paranoid of being found out was a part of my daily battle of secrecy and it was something that ate away at me.

For most people, you are correct. It's not IF, but WHEN the shit hits the fan. With that being said, I have done plenty of calculations over the years and scenarios to where *in my current lifestyle situation* my plan is foolproof. Until there is ANY change to that (moving to another house, wife decides to get nosey and start poking around *which would never happen due to her medical reasons that I wont get into*, or I die and my possessions are sorted through and sold off, etc) I cannot be found out. I hide in plain sight. The glory of my situation with her is that this is my baseline. This is all she has ever known when it comes to my personality and whatnot. Being high as fuck Mr. Biscuit is all anyone who now knows me has ever seen. So unless I go dry, my behavior and looks will never be a giveaway. And I don't talk to anyone about this stuff, so no one can tell her.

BUT. I know that someday this ride will have to end and I'm gonna have to hop down from my magical pony on this ecstasy carousel I call my life and come back to reality. I'm not dumb. I hate saying it out loud because it sounds so narcissistic and egotistical but I'm a highly intelligent person for someone who does not have a college education (working on that now actually)

Sorry this response is so scattered and full of errors. I want to write more in depth but I am currently tied up to do so.
 
OKAY. So. Holy fucking shit people, I was not expecting this to even be read, let alone have this kind of community engagement on the subject. I appreciate everyones responses, advice, and experiences shared. I have read them all and taking some into serious thought.

So to answer a few responses in one reply:
Someone mentioned about my four years going undetected and sustainability as a user. Yes I really have, and it's been fairly easy overall. A few learning curve moments here and there, but overall a simple task to achieve. I have actually turned into the neighborhood freelance computer tech (rich people are stupid when it comes to computers for some reason) and I have been drawing consistent work outside of my studies for the past couple of years. I still get hit on by most women at the country clubs and upscale hotels we stay at regularly, and my teeth are still in pristine shape. I will say I do put in an extra amount of effort when it comes to my body. I use creams and lotions on my face after a shower, i brush twice a day, once a month I use a Zoom Whitening syringe on my teeth to maintain whiteness. I'm not in peak physical performance, but thats because I quit my job and ive given up on that part of my body haha. Vitamins are a must along with other supplements. I still eat like a fucking child though.
You had the same theory as I do now. I must have some form of severe ADHD because this shit levels me out mentally (yeah I sweat like a whore in church most of the time, but eh. Gotta make some sacrifices I suppose) and when i'm gacked out I am in the zone and a well oiled machine. With her being my wife, she cant prescribe me anything. At least she says. And I had not been to a doctor in over 15 years up until last month. Slightly elevated blood pressure (no duh) but other than that healthy as can be. blood work was phenomenal. I should find a way to get meds instead of smoking this shit. But for now I don't know how to go about that.


The darkweb thing concerns me. I get the general premise of the darkweb, but i do not know how to access it nor do I feel safe enough to venture deep into it (I am studying cybersecurity, ironically lol) due to lack of protective tools and overall secure network. I have heard that its fairly easy to make purchases, but the last thing I need is the DEA kicking my door at 8 a.m. while I'm having my morning coffee shits. My wife works 4 days a week, so I typically have the house to myself. So Chef Boyardee'ing that shit would be easy to get away with if I knew how (i'm talking one pot cook methods, not breaking bad shit) since I am alone most of the time. I just dont know the ingredients or the procedure, so I know once I get lithium touching any liquid my face will look like a meat pizza in a flash.

I gotta go. I'll add more later, possibly a more detailed post on my life so as to give everyone better insight on the habits origins, daily routines, and the tools at my disposal. Thanks everyone!
 
SuspiciousBiscuit said:
I see the logic behind your advice, and thank you for your words of wisdom on the subject. I really appreciate it. Your experience is something that had been a fear of mine for quite a long time. Constantly being paranoid of being found out was a part of my daily battle of secrecy and it was something that ate away at me.

For most people, you are correct. It's not IF, but WHEN the shit hits the fan. With that being said, I have done plenty of calculations over the years and scenarios to where *in my current lifestyle situation* my plan is foolproof. Until there is ANY change to that (moving to another house, wife decides to get nosey and start poking around *which would never happen due to her medical reasons that I wont get into*, or I die and my possessions are sorted through and sold off, etc) I cannot be found out. I hide in plain sight. The glory of my situation with her is that this is my baseline. This is all she has ever known when it comes to my personality and whatnot. Being high as fuck Mr. Biscuit is all anyone who now knows me has ever seen. So unless I go dry, my behavior and looks will never be a giveaway. And I don't talk to anyone about this stuff, so no one can tell her.

BUT. I know that someday this ride will have to end and I'm gonna have to hop down from my magical pony on this ecstasy carousel I call my life and come back to reality. I'm not dumb. I hate saying it out loud because it sounds so narcissistic and egotistical but I'm a highly intelligent person for someone who does not have a college education (working on that now actually)

Sorry this response is so scattered and full of errors. I want to write more in depth but I am currently tied up to do so.
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I'm not trying to shame you in any way, or tell you what to do. Just saying, 4 years isn't a long time. Like I said, I made it 10 years without her finding out. She was absolutely shocked when I slipped and she found out. It made her realize that I am apparently amazing at living a double life, and lying. The result was total destruction of trust, and eventually, the relationship. All I'm asking is that you consider how valuable the relationship is for you. In my case I think I subconsciously wanted her to find out so the relationship could end. I was playing a big game with myself and her and almost daring the house of cards to come tumbling down. I would never do that again. My girlfriend now wishes I would be less crazy, but she knows what I do and accepts it, as long as I don't lie to her about it. The difference in how it makes ME feel to not be living a lie is huge. Even if you don't think it does, I think that constantly lying and being deceptive takes a big toll on you. It did for me, anyway, but I didn't recognize that until I stopped.

The chances are nearly 100% that eventually the truth will come out, and when it does, it will be very difficult, or impossible, to rebuild that trust, so just keep that in mind. I also thought I would be able to keep it up indefinitely..

Another thing is, someone shouldn't control you like that. If your lifestyle and choices is incompatible with someone to the point you have to live a double life, it may be that that person actually isn't right for you.
 
SuspiciousBiscuit said:
Whats the risk of using a PO Box from usps?
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Every USPS store has a snoopy postmaster who would love to bust people. They also have their own internal federal police force and they can open any mail they deem suspicious. They have more security protocols.

Private stores are less snoopy, but can also technically open mail if they want but only if it smells or is leaking, or the package is damaged, otherwise they need a warrant. When they accept your package they ultimately sign for you which ruins plausible deniability. They typically are less snoopy because all they care about are profits, customer satisfaction and don't take directions from the government. They are a typical business model and not funded by the government.

I never had any issues at a private store with very small amounts.

The biggest issue was the major anxiety of showing up at the store to collect it. Takes some balls to commit a felony in public view while on camera. Had some anxiety attacks sitting in my car doing that shit, but in the end nothing went wrong after several dozen packs.

I highly advise getting the largest size box, otherwise a lot of packs won't fit and they keep it behind the counter and someone has to hand it to you. I also advise to order some legit mail as well. I'd buy $2 items off Amazon or whatever.

Overall it's much safer to order to a residential address, but private boxes can work in a pinch.
 
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USPS is not allowed to open your mail without a warrant, I'm pretty sure. Though I bet they could get one pretty easily if they wanted. Still, the private carriers are allowed to open your mail for any reason. Though like Negentropic said, it seems to me they don't actually care at all unless they were pressured by the law. I have always felt more comfortable with USPS, myself.

I would feel less comfortable with a PO Box, simply because it resides in the post office building. What's to stop them sweeping the place with a canine unit? Nothing. And they know who you are when you sign up for it. Maybe if you somehow signed up for one with a fake ID, and somehow avoided being on camera when you went to get stuff from it... but otherwise, your home address seems safer.
 
Xorkoth said:
Maybe if you somehow signed up for one with a fake ID, and somehow avoided being on camera when you went to get stuff from it... but otherwise, your home address seems safer.
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Naw man, gotta do like in Goodfellas and get a separate apartment where you don't live just for your side piece and drug deliveries :rockon:
 
Xorkoth said:
I'm not trying to shame you in any way, or tell you what to do. Just saying, 4 years isn't a long time. Like I said, I made it 10 years without her finding out. She was absolutely shocked when I slipped and she found out. It made her realize that I am apparently amazing at living a double life, and lying. The result was total destruction of trust, and eventually, the relationship. All I'm asking is that you consider how valuable the relationship is for you. In my case I think I subconsciously wanted her to find out so the relationship could end. I was playing a big game with myself and her and almost daring the house of cards to come tumbling down. I would never do that again. My girlfriend now wishes I would be less crazy, but she knows what I do and accepts it, as long as I don't lie to her about it. The difference in how it makes ME feel to not be living a lie is huge. Even if you don't think it does, I think that constantly lying and being deceptive takes a big toll on you. It did for me, anyway, but I didn't recognize that until I stopped.

The chances are nearly 100% that eventually the truth will come out, and when it does, it will be very difficult, or impossible, to rebuild that trust, so just keep that in mind. I also thought I would be able to keep it up indefinitely..

Another thing is, someone shouldn't control you like that. If your lifestyle and choices is incompatible with someone to the point you have to live a double life, it may be that that person actually isn't right for you.
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Naw man I get it. I'm not offended or anything. I totally understand and respect your outlook and opinion. I know I'm playing with fire, and i will eventually get burned. But I will worry about the later, later. I'm more concerned with the right now and how to maintain this. I thank you for your concern and insight, though. It's good to finally talk about all this for once. I was starting to go mad from being so isolated in this lifestyle.

And she is good for me. She's just....normal, not like me, etc in regards to recreational habits. I mean I gave up smoking cigarettes for her. Maybe one day ill kick this habit too for her as well.
 
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