I'm not sure. I had an x-ray done on my back and it showed nothing but I'm in pain if I sit down, especially during long periods at a time, turn my neck to the side or other certain postures.A cold water extraction won't work here.
Just out of curiosity what do you mean by back pain? Slipped disks? Just curious.
I don't get it. Why do people love them then?CWE here is pointless. Oxycodone and naloxone are equally soluble in water. There is nothing you can do to get rid of the naloxone.
At least you can defeat the time release mechanism by crushing the tablets into powder. Taking that orally still produces a nice buzz.
I suppose that some like them just because it's still oxycodone. After defeating the time release mechanism (i.e. crushing the tablets into powder) you can get a decent buzz when you take them orally. Naloxone doesn't survive the stomach acid and enzymes in your belly while oxycodone does. Also their street price is lower than oxycodone produts without naloxone.I don't get it. Why do people love them then?
Ahhhhh if only it were that easyHello there....I'm currently prescribed Targin for back pain. I'm confused as to why people love them when Naloxone is in the pills?
Wouldn't people need to do a CWE?
Haha what about endoneAhhhhh if only it were that easy
As negrogesic said, they specifically made it that way so that people can't extract the oxy and get high with it.
I've gotten a pretty nice warm buzz off Targin before. Obviously not a full oxy high, due to the naloxone, but it still felt good. I only used the Targin cos I was given them for free by a junkie who was otherwise literally going to throw them in the river lol. I was like NO no no I'll take 'em.... :D
I suppose that some like them just because it's still oxycodone. After defeating the time release mechanism (i.e. crushing the tablets into powder) you can get a decent buzz when you take them orally. Naloxone doesn't survive the stomach acid and enzymes in your belly while oxycodone does. Also their street price is lower than oxycodone produts without naloxone.
Of course oxycodone poducts without naloxone are more popular and therefore also pricier. You have pay more for an injectable product.
I only used the Targin cos I was given them for free by a junkie who was otherwise literally going to throw them in the river lol. I was like NO no no I'll take 'em.... :D
Endone is just the brand name for oxycodoneHaha what about endone
Actually this isn't true. I mean it's a little true in the technical sense (that naloxone is deactivated in your stomach) but it's not true in the practical sense (reliably being able to use these recreational)
Yes, naloxone is very heavily deactivated in your stomach, but not all of it. Some of it gets absorbed into your system.
I've used oxycodone in isolation (endone) and I've used targin, and I can promise you that a non trivial amount of targins naloxone does get absorbed.
If you have a low tolerance they could probably be fun, but if you have even a moderate opioid tolerance, IME targin is completely worthless. You can't take enough to not have the naloxone make you feel worse.
I've tried, I've seen my exbf try. They just make you feel sick if you have a significant tolerance (we were both IV heroin addicts). They're next to worthless for us (and presumably most people with a significant tolerance)
And yeah as others have said, you can't CWE the naloxone out, it's too water soluble. I don't know of any way to remove the naloxone from them.
Hmmm I now have two schedule 8 drugs to choose from. Is that even allowed in Australia ?Well at least all the literature subjects that the oral bioavailability of naloxone to be 1-2%, which is virtually nothing.
Heh??I know but it's just oxycodone and nothing but naloxone...so you'd just a bang it
Thanks for the you might have just saved my life I read his post and took it at face valueActually this isn't true. I mean it's a little true in the technical sense (that naloxone is deactivated in your stomach) but it's not true in the practical sense (reliably being able to use these recreational)
Yes, naloxone is very heavily deactivated in your stomach, but not all of it. Some of it gets absorbed into your system.
I've used oxycodone in isolation (endone) and I've used targin, and I can promise you that a non trivial amount of targins naloxone does get absorbed.
If you have a low tolerance they could probably be fun, but if you have even a moderate opioid tolerance, IME targin is completely worthless. You can't take enough to not have the naloxone make you feel worse.
I've tried, I've seen my exbf try. They just make you feel sick if you have a significant tolerance (we were both IV heroin addicts). They're next to worthless for us (and presumably most people with a significant tolerance)
And yeah as others have said, you can't CWE the naloxone out, it's too water soluble. I don't know of any way to remove the naloxone from them.
Lol I guess I didn't explain properly.Heh??
Agreed in deedThanks for the you might have just saved my life I read his post and took it at face value
Lol I guess I didn't explain properly.
What I meant was with endone you get the full hit of oxycodone. With targin you don't because of the Naloxone.