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Just took 100mcg of ALD-52 like 10 minutes ago. I've never tried this one and I haven't even used LSD in like 6 years. The last time I used a lysergamide was probably taking AL-LAD about 5 years ago. Well technically, I did split an AL-LAD tab with my friend last year after I found it in my backpack (it had probably been in there for like 3 years, lol), but I'm not counting that.

I don't really know what to expect but I don't think it should be overwhelming. Had a shot of espresso this morning and a few puffs of nicotine, but my mental state is pretty calm right now. :)
 
Theta:

Hope it's getting off to a good start, ecstasylover. :) I bet it'll be pretty impressive after all that time off.

anybody get terrible anxiety after drinking benders and then getting clean from alcohol? I think i finally pinpointed where all my anxiety was coming from this year i think its alcohol withdrawls after heavy weeks of binge drinking each day.

Most definitely. We also get a really bad headache starting around three or four days after no longer drinking and lasting a day or two with remarkable consistency and recently fell prey to this after thinking we might be able to get by after several years of no longer dealing with it simply from no longer drinking that much anymore either, no such luck.
 
I can get really good effects @ecstacylover from that amount ALD-52 it is such a good drug, very clean trip. I used to like mixing it with 2C-B that was lovely. Also tried it with 3-MeO-PCP which was spectacular but its gem in its ownright. No bodyload just straight permagrin a buddy gave me bunch of blotters of that earlier this year and i loved it. To the effect i would like to stock up on ALD-52 and ETH-LAD in particular.
 
It's really nice so far. Clean is definitely a word I would use to describe it. I sat at the beach for like 3 hours and I was surprised at how normal I felt to be there. There was a decent amount of people but I didn't feel like I was standing out in a bad way. I was extremely relaxed the entire time. So far it hasn't been forceful in any regard. I feel like I could sit here and critique my life or just mellow out depending on whatever route I wanted to go. Whatever the beach smells like is amazing, plus you occasionally smell some weed which is quite pleasant. There has been quite significant time dilation as it's been about 3.5 hours since I took it, but it feels like it's been much longer. I feel like I would have been good on a higher dose but there's always next time, and this has been a positive introduction. Plus this stuff lasts pretty long I guess, now I need to figure out what to do from here haha. But I'm sure whatever happens will be good, I don't have any anxiety whatsoever right now. :)
 
Just took ~8mg of 5-MeO-MiPT, about to try to ride my bike on the more stimulating phase. I tried it a couple times like 6 years ago and I remember even at like 7mg it got extremely weird, but only after a good amount of cannabis. I remember sitting in the back of my friends car and I was having these CEV's of Darth Vader masks that were flying at me extremely fast. And when I got back to my parents house I swept out the garage for like 30 minutes before going inside because I was scared they might think I was on something.

I put a drop of the solution under my tongue and this stuff tastes pretty bad. Even once I put the rest of the dose in a glass of water it was still extremely bitter. Not sure how much tolerance from yesterday will affect the experience but I imagine it will still be quite interesting. I've really wanted to vape the FB for awhile now, I'm definitely going to attempt that in the near future.
 
5-MeO-MiPT is one of the worst tasting things I've consumed. Love the chem, hate the taste.
 
Love the drip from 4-AcO-DMT but that could also be me relating the flavor to the effect. But yeah in general Tryptamines taste little funny.
 
might dose upwards of 500 ug on the night of new years eve going into 2021 reborn. But before then take a smaller dose like 100-150 ug maybe just before Christmas to clear my mind first of any things that need to be addressed giving me a better platform to launch into the deep end on.
 
Theta:

Just took ~8mg of 5-MeO-MiPT, about to try to ride my bike on the more stimulating phase. I tried it a couple times like 6 years ago and I remember even at like 7mg it got extremely weird, but only after a good amount of cannabis. I remember sitting in the back of my friends car and I was having these CEV's of Darth Vader masks that were flying at me extremely fast. And when I got back to my parents house I swept out the garage for like 30 minutes before going inside because I was scared they might think I was on something.

I put a drop of the solution under my tongue and this stuff tastes pretty bad. Even once I put the rest of the dose in a glass of water it was still extremely bitter. Not sure how much tolerance from yesterday will affect the experience but I imagine it will still be quite interesting. I've really wanted to vape the FB for awhile now, I'm definitely going to attempt that in the near future.

Glad to hear the ALD-52 was nice and hope this one went well too. :) I love smoking 5-MeO-MiPT and we just did ~5 mg to good effect again this morning. I technically can't recommend it enough, but I'm one of those people who is weirdly really sensitive to getting stronger psychedelics effects from 5-methoxytryptamines too, so I also try not to claim too much about how they'll likely affect others. What I can say though is that for us, it basically eliminates the body load of dosing orally (which we already find light) and while it does compress the heaviest psychedelic effects to around the first hour or so, it still leaves us with an energetic and still trippy high for basically just as long as dosing orally. I honestly don't have much desire to return to using it orally, though it is a bit different and arguably has some distinct uses.
 
I'll write a report for sure, already taking notes, but probably won't do a lot of live reporting. Gonna do some stuff today.

I'll say it's starting to feel really nice though. Less mentally euphoric than AMT so far, but way easier on the body, and physically I feel pretty great. It's extremely easygoing, definitely more entactogen than psychedelic so far.
 
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Awesome Xorkoth, can't wait to hear more about how it goes!! It definitely sounds good so far.
 
This is my latest time stamp entry I just wrote:

12:40pm (T+1:40) - Hard to believe it's been almost 2 hours. This is very pleasant. It is substantially stronger sio far than my 2mg trial was but it's extremely easygoing, and relaxing. I am curious to see how it develops mentally... right now it is much more entactogenic than psychedelic. My body feels lovely, with a pleasurable flush to my skin and a pulsing euphoric feeling in my limbs. I find myself tapping my leg a lot, but I also feel totally relaxed. Likewise though, I feel up for a hike or something. I just took my blood pressure 3 times in a row, and the average was 134 / 63, at 71 bpm. So slightly above systolic norm, and slightly above nornal resting heart rate, but not much. I do not feel like my heart has any increased load.. I could probably lay down and close my eyes and drift in this feeling and feel satisfied with how I was spending my time, or I could go on a hike. I think the hike would be better, though. I am going to see if my girlfriend wants to do that with me.

I'm going to see about going on a hike, it would be nice to get out in nature, and it's a beautiful warm day.
 
It's still pleasant, not too exciting but really, really smooth and uniformly positive. I almost feel sober mentally. I'm not euphoric, but in a good mood and feel good. I redosed 4mg to bring the total to 12, and it made it slightly stronger but just a bit. I'm 100% functional, it's like my day just has a fuzzy cloud aspect to it. It's not psychedelic really at all at this dosage. Not sure what will happen as the dosage increases, my guess is it will never reach the AMT place, a sort of all-out flood of monoamines with some psychedelia, similar to MDA. But it has some of the least bodyload of anything I've ever tried that is serotonergic (stimulant or psychedelic). Really, really clean feeling. No peripheral side effects at all.
 
Theta:

That definitely sounds promising. We're pretty sure we're going to try it ourselves pretty soon, and we were initially thinking of starting with 5 mg but are now considering bumping it up to 10 mg instead. We've been a little nervous about taking it at the right time or not given that we're not really sure if it's going to be psychedelic or not at whatever dosage we start at, but we might take it sooner than later if it still seems like it's primarily a monoamine releasing agent effect at that level.
 
Yeah im probably gonna dose like this given what effect your getting from that.

Trial one ~ 4mgs

Trial two ~ 10mgs

Trial three ~ 15mgs

Sometging like this, may try this one before the regular aMT as i have been havimg some stomach issues as of late. Im probably gonna end up plugging the regular aMT honestly and use this 5-CL-aMT orally...maybe Vape small amount one night...
 
Theta:



Glad to hear the ALD-52 was nice and hope this one went well too. :) I love smoking 5-MeO-MiPT and we just did ~5 mg to good effect again this morning. I technically can't recommend it enough, but I'm one of those people who is weirdly really sensitive to getting stronger psychedelics effects from 5-methoxytryptamines too, so I also try not to claim too much about how they'll likely affect others. What I can say though is that for us, it basically eliminates the body load of dosing orally (which we already find light) and while it does compress the heaviest psychedelic effects to around the first hour or so, it still leaves us with an energetic and still trippy high for basically just as long as dosing orally. I honestly don't have much desire to return to using it orally, though it is a bit different and arguably has some distinct uses.
The 5-MeO-MiPT went good too. I rode my bike for like the first hour and a half until my legs started feeling a bit heavy and I started feeling a bit uncoordinated. I think the 5-MeO-MiPT was a bit more visual than the ALD-52, but on the ALD-52 I had more of a tendency to get lost in my thoughts. The 5-MeO-MiPT visuals felt very earthy and there was an oil painting sort of effect. There was a bit more body load with the 5-MeO-MiPT and it felt a bit frantic and discombobulated at a couple points, but that might have also been the fact that I had twice as much espresso the morning of.

Whereas I actually thought about a couple fairly dark things on the ALD-52, the experience itself never felt dark. The 5-MeO-MiPT seemed a bit more intrinsically strange and a little dark, even though I never explicitly dwelled on any negative ideas. Being among people on the 5-MeO-MiPT also felt somewhat uncomfortable, which was totally the opposite of how the ALD-52 felt. Overall the ALD-52 felt like a much richer experience and seemed to have more transformative potential.

The 5-MeO-MiPT body high was a quite sharp and distinctive feeling in my extremities. The ALD-52 body feeling was less overt and was more of a supreme relaxation, which I actually preferred. Taking a hot shower on the ALD-52 felt amazing as well. I actually read something you posted about 5-MeO-MiPT's duration being 10-11 hours and that ended up being right on the money for me. Although it was fairly subtle after the first five or so hours, it took about 11 hours before I was sure the experience was over. That's pretty cool that the overall 5-MeO-MiPT duration doesn't change much when vaped, I definitely want to try that soon.

One thing that kind of held me back from using psychedelics the past few years was that in my sober state I had accumulated all these irrational thoughts that I projected onto the psychedelic experience. I think it was mainly my abuse of dissociatives, which I think truly are drugs that induce psychotic patterns of thought, that led to this. However once I'm actually in the psychedelic experience I realize how crazy these thoughts are and I feel even more confident in my survival instincts than when sober. Any sort of obsessive-compulsive thought patterns I can also see right through and realize how silly they are. On the ALD-52 I thought about my use of dissociatives and I realized that I do regret abusing them to the extent that I did, but it was mostly a peaceful acceptance rather a self-flagellatory sort of realization. I'm just so glad that I've quit dissociatives for good because now the healing process will be continuous rather than intermittent.

Probably the best thing I noticed with the 5-MeO-MiPT but especially with the ALD-52 was how the smooth the descent was, absolutely no trace of headache which was a huge plus for me. I got absolutely brutal headaches on the comedown the past few times I used 2C-B and the one time I used 2C-B-FLY, along with more minor headaches from 2C-C and 2C-D. I used to love 2C-B and I've used it more than any other psychedelic but I probably won't use it again for this reason. 2C-C is even better than 2C-B I think, so I really hope it was just a one-time thing with 2C-C, but unfortunately there does seem to be a pattern with the phenethylamines giving me headaches on the comedown (6-APB, MDA & MDMA give me similar types of headaches on the comedown FWIW and that's one big reason I haven't rolled in a few years, although I would love to try AMT as it sounds absolutely beautiful).

Some people suspect the headaches are caused by rebound vasodilation but I've found vasoconstrictors like caffeine offer very little relief for these headaches. I think a better hypothesis is that prostaglandin E2, which is known to induce migraines, accumulates as a result of 5-HT2AR-mediated arachidonic acid activation. Acetaminophen stops these headaches in their tracks for me, and sure enough it's been show to inhibit prostaglandin E2 synthesis. Anyways, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the phenethylamines are more prone to inducing headache due to increased functional selectivity for the arachidonic acid pathway relative to tryptamines and lysergamides.

Edit: Thought I'd add that the day I took ALD-52 it was quite sunny while the next day it was quite blustery with dark skies, which may have influenced my perception of the 5-MeO-MiPT. Also have a great afterglow today with an uplifted mood and enhanced color saturation. I was able to make an 8 hour drive which I needed 4F-MPH to make last time and never really got frustrated despite being in the car for so long. I even felt like my focus was better and like I was less "on autopilot" than when I made the drive on 4F-MPH.
 
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