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Would you bump it to 15mg or 20?
i've never taken 10mg oxy, even when i was opiate naive. First time i took an oxy i did 20mg, one week later i was doing upwards 40mg. mhmmI wanna be safe I still treat myself as opiate naive I doubt I am I been taking some kinda opiate albeit kratom or oxy since December with not even a week break in between. I wanna get the best outta these while still being relatively as safe as possible. What would that be for you? You think 15mg is too much for an opiate naive person? I’m not but I like to place myself in that category until I find my dose
So I should be safe off a 20mg next time I try you think?i've never taken 10mg oxy, even when i was opiate naive. First time i took an oxy i did 20mg, one week later i was doing upwards 40mg. mhmm
man, to pass out or die you would have to do a lot more than that. you could take 50mg but that most likely would make you nauseous. Yeah you can try 20mg.So I should be safe off a 20mg next time I try you think?
man, to pass out or die you would have to do a lot more than that. you could take 50mg but that most likely would make you nauseous. Yeah you can try 20mg, mix it with cannabis aswell. They synergize so well.
Whats the end game? I ,mean what is the objective/want?Would you bump it to 15mg or 20?
That classic energy happiness I don’t wanna nod or be off the rocker just feel that classic opiate warmth and I’m barley getting it at 10mg I have a chance to get 15s would that be the safest step ?Whats the end game? I ,mean what is the objective/want?
Don't you think the kratom has increased your tolerance a bit? Perhaps you need a higher dose to feel it again.As long as you don't mix it with other downers you should be safe.That classic energy happiness I don’t wanna nod or be off the rocker just feel that classic opiate warmth and I’m barley getting it at 10mg I have a chance to get 15s would that be the safest step ?
Yeah that’s what I’m thinking happen if I don’t do oxy I’m taking kratom and vice versa cause a 5 mg use to get me right where I wanted to beDon't you think the kratom has increased your tolerance a bit? Perhaps you need a higher dose to feel it again.As long as you don't mix it with other downers you should be safe.
hahaha dude that only works the first few times, when that short honeymoon phase is over you need to use more and more everytime. I don't think you'll ever feel euphoric from just 5mg tbh.Yeah that’s what I’m thinking happen if I don’t do oxy I’m taking kratom and vice versa cause a 5 mg use to get me right where I wanted to be
Well next time ima try probably 15mg and see where I’m at, bumping up 5 shouldn’t be that bad I wish I knew what my tolerance washahaha dude that only works the first few times, when that short honeymoon phase is over you need to use more and more everytime. I don't think you'll ever feel euphoric from just 5mg tbh.
No its straight oxy20mg + try it you have a tolerance. is it straight or apap?
kratom usage does more so there will be something *missing, imo/e.
ymmv
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Yeah that’s what I’m thinking happen if I don’t do oxy I’m taking kratom and vice versa cause a 5 mg use to get me right where I wanted to be
Well next time ima try probably 15mg and see where I’m at, bumping up 5 shouldn’t be that bad I wish I knew what my tolerance was
I too, have a increased sensitivity to oxycodone to put in layman’s turns at the beginning of my use around Christmas I’d take a 5 mg and I’d feel fine but 7.5 was too much, I felt extreme lethargy and it scared me to think I might fall asleep and stop breathing since then my normal dose has increased to 7.5 after a while on 5mg and then to 10mg. My kratom usage varies though at my peak I was taking about 15 gpd with my largest dose in the morning which varied from 4-6 grams. I found that 6 grams was to relaxing and I got that same lethargy so I reduced it to 5 g in morning and about 5 around 2pm so undeniably I’ve probably got tolerance past 10mg. I’m just trying to place a standard dose on the safe side (hence me assuming I’m opiate naive) although I’m not I’d prefer to say along those dosage guidelines I’d rather waste a pill then my life. My next step would be take a 10mg and then split another 10 in half and then the half in half so perhaps 12.5 mg but idk if that would just increase tolerance without said effects. The effect I’m looking for would be a recreational dose but with That being said all I’m looking for is a mood lift and energy lift and classic warm opiate feeling I do not wanna nod or be wasted on them. Potentiation could be a Avenue I could try but I would like to go about it as safely as possible.If you don't mind me asking how much Kratom are you consuming & how often are you consuming said Kratom? Kratom can raise one's tolerance by a surprisingly large degree from what I've seen.
My wife as an example was able to keep her doses to as low or lower than what you are speaking for a very long time without much in the way of tolerance issues. Her usage included the random F analogues, etc. being sold nowadays as "dope" & various other opioids. Oddly enough the only thing that ever really had an effect on her tolerance was Kratom. She's always been extremely sensitive to drugs & able to take very low doses like you describe. Considering the similarities perhaps I can try to provide some more input on the matter at hand.
To attempt to provide said input I'll need additional information as I stated however. As such how much Kratom are you consuming at time & in total? I wasn't able to discern the amount you are taking or how frequently you are taking it from the information you've provided so far. I know you mention "with not even a week break in between" but I'm unclear as the exact frequency based on that statement. I've tried to infer what I can from what you've mentioned but "with not even a week break in between" can indicate many different dosing schedules. Also the quantity of the Kratom consumed is relevant when assessing tolerance. It also couldn't hurt to know what color you generally consume. It's always hard to gauge the tolerance of someone else but if said information is provided I'll do my best to give a recommendation.
Normally I wouldn't be at all concerned with taking to much with such low doses but having seen the sensitivity of some individuals (such as my wife) to opioids & how unpleasant the resulting experience of having taken to much can be for the individual in question I understand that one might not want to take that chance. As I would agree with nznity that you are safe & don't have to worry at the doses you are taking. However; as he mentioned taking to much could make you nauseous at the very least. I know people can get very nauseous, sweaty, etc. (basically a plethora of negative symptoms) when taking to much & have quite an unpleasant experience as a result. Hopefully we can figure out your tolerance / dose to within a degree of confidence that those risks are alleviated.
As I stated if you provide more information I'll do my best to try to help you with assessing your tolerance. Hopefully with more information we can help to assist you with ascertaining your tolerance & help to answer your question with as high a degree of confidence as possible.
I too, have a increased sensitivity to oxycodone to put in layman’s turns at the beginning of my use around Christmas I’d take a 5 mg and I’d feel fine but 7.5 was too much, I felt extreme lethargy and it scared me to think I might fall asleep and stop breathing since then my normal dose has increased to 7.5 after a while on 5mg and then to 10mg. My kratom usage varies though at my peak I was taking about 15 gpd with my largest dose in the morning which varied from 4-6 grams. I found that 6 grams was to relaxing and I got that same lethargy so I reduced it to 5 g in morning and about 5 around 2pm so undeniably I’ve probably got tolerance past 10mg. I’m just trying to place a standard dose on the safe side (hence me assuming I’m opiate naive) although I’m not I’d prefer to say along those dosage guidelines I’d rather waste a pill then my life. My next step would be take a 10mg and then split another 10 in half and then the half in half so perhaps 12.5 mg but idk if that would just increase tolerance without said effects. The effect I’m looking for would be a recreational dose but with That being said all I’m looking for is a mood lift and energy lift and classic warm opiate feeling I do not wanna nod or be wasted on them. Potentiation could be a Avenue I could try but I would like to go about it as safely as possible.
10-15mg never did shit for me, not even when i was opiate naive. ALL OR NOTHING MAN.I'd go 30 mg