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Misc Functional addicts - question

NicoOregon said:
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Agree. Well said. All I know is everyone has an addiction whether it's acceptable or not to society. Food, money, sex, gameing... No judgement.
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Couldn't agree more... The larger issue for most people, and most stereotypes of those with whichever addiction it may be, is that those stereotypes are based on how people who cannot handle what they are doing. Anyone that gets so whacked out on meth or cocaine, etc. and systematically destroys their life to the point of homelessness or even worse are the ones who should have never started doing that drug in the first place. It's been said by others before but is worth mentioning again that if you decide to continually use a drug, it should be used to enhance your quality of life, not destroy it.
I'm sure the actual number of functional drug addicts is staggering, and is something that will never be known. People start getting high and lose touch with whats really most important in life, its a fact. To say there are no real 'functional' drug addicts, only those who haven't lost control yet is dead wrong. I know too many that are completely functional, and have been for all of their lives. Is everyone that uses drugs functional, absolutely not. At the same time everyone that uses drugs is not out of control either.
 
Marcus Gibbins said:
First off, I am not sure there is such a beast as a functioning addict, from Personal experiance It is the people around the addict who function and enable.
That begs the question what is an addict.
Some people seem to hold it together better than others. My best friend. Housemate and fellow pipe user has a saying: there are crack heads and there are smokers. We, on obviously, are smokers. I do not consider myself an addict thougho othersdo.
just finished a massive bender and now have to stop for a bit.
Why not just carry on?
because, though drugs are part of my life, they are not my whole life. I have people I love and loved
Dreams of doing things. Traveling. Getting a puppy. Being with my son
pretty much the same feeling regarding suicide.
Sort of the same thing in my mind.
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Couldn’t say out better myself.
 
Zopiclone bandit said:
Oh come on, you know as well as I do you can start out on .2/.3 of heroin a day for a couple of weeks & it will be fine but after that point you have to start having that as soon as you wake up & if you actually want to "get high" you need more & more cash to score with & that pushes you into crime.

You have no desire in life apart from thinking "fuck it all i wana be as high as can be"?.........
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You know, there are certain people who have really good connects for their stuff, and pay very little,especially in larger quantities, than the average 20 sack a day Joe ends up with... And those who also have decent jobs can afford to buy that bulk. It's not their fault if it would price you out of the game to try and keep up. I know people that are perfectly happy to pay as much as 300% more than I do, so it's got a lot to do with the perspective of each person. Some if not most people would call me a hoarder if they actually knew the vast arsenal of dope I have, definately enough to get through a zombie apocalypse!! But thats me and my situation, and if I've got it to where I can do as much as I want whenever I want for as long as I want and I'm not facing a continuously growing financial burden, it's not any more my fault that others can't as much as it's not my fault I wasn't born into a wealthy family, it's just life. You know what they say about opinions, but facts are facts.
 
If you want to be a functioning addict you need to accept that some days you are gonna go without
 
If I had a vast amount of drugs no way in hell would I be saying it publicly.
 
pally pete said:
That was exactly me 10 years ago.. You can probably trace it back to my early posts on this board (I don't look as my old posts usually leave me feeling embarrassed! :rolleyes:)

My pharmaceutical drug addiction began as only ' a weekend thing ' - just a few Diazepam/Temazepam/Alprazolam etc.. then more than just a few.. maybe a handful of pills, then that became hundreds of pills consumed over the weekend. Then, I discovered Oxycontin (OC 80's) which had me feeling amazing at 15-20 mg doses which rapidly progressed/regressed and before I know it I have a full blown Opiate & Benzo habit.. Within the blink of an eye I was taking 400 mg of Oxy a day just to feel 'normal'. And my Benzo doses were incomprehensible!
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Story as old as time itself mate nothing to be ashamed of especially since it sounds well in the past. If you've been off that shit for 10 years you should be proud not embarrassed!
 
2spun4one said:
Couldn't agree more... The larger issue for most people, and most stereotypes of those with whichever addiction it may be, is that those stereotypes are based on how people who cannot handle what they are doing. Anyone that gets so whacked out on meth or cocaine, etc. and systematically destroys their life to the point of homelessness or even worse are the ones who should have never started doing that drug in the first place. It's been said by others before but is worth mentioning again that if you decide to continually use a drug, it should be used to enhance your quality of life, not destroy it.
I'm sure the actual number of functional drug addicts is staggering, and is something that will never be known. People start getting high and lose touch with whats really most important in life, its a fact. To say there are no real 'functional' drug addicts, only those who haven't lost control yet is dead wrong. I know too many that are completely functional, and have been for all of their lives. Is everyone that uses drugs functional, absolutely not. At the same time everyone that uses drugs is not out of control either.
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I do agree with this. But as you said here, as you start focusing your attention purely to staying high, you lose focus on more important things in life. So I wouldn't say an addict can be entirely functional when compared to not being addicted.

But obviously you are very correct that many people can and do manage an addiction while maintaining a career and a personal life. I'm pretty sure this includes many people in my office and I'd never know it.

It's also a consideration that it's very difficult to judge yourself. Someone can think they're functional when they're very clearly not to anyone else looking. "I can stop anytime I want" is a cliche for a reason. People either can't or don't want to admit they're addicted, especially if they're able to hold down a job.

As I said though I do agree with what you're saying. It's just a complex grey area that isn't really quite as simple as "functioning" and "non-functioning" imo. Example I'd bet a lot of addicts who can hold down a job are also skint from spending all their money on their DOC and may very well have a damaged personal life for various reasons.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
As I said though I do agree with what you're saying. It's just a complex grey area that isn't really quite as simple as "functioning" and "non-functioning" imo. Example I'd bet a lot of addicts who can hold down a job are also skint from spending all their money on their DOC and may very well have a damaged personal life for various reasons.
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This was me. I had a house and a career for 10 years during my intense opiate addiction days (actually I got the house a few years into it, before I had worked up a bunch of debt and gone into astronomical dosage range). Never missed a house payment or got my electricity shut off. I actually excelled at my job (because it was the only thing I felt like I was doing well at and I really put my focus into it). Of course I worked up a shit ton of credit card/loan debt, and hated myself eventually and kinda just wanted to die. But people on the outside didn't know. I got off opiates and still have the same job and house 6 years later.

I was functional in a sense... but at the same time my life wasn't working for me and I was miserable.
 
Xorkoth said:
This was me. I had a house and a career for 10 years during my intense opiate addiction days (actually I got the house a few years into it, before I had worked up a bunch of debt and gone into astronomical dosage range). Never missed a house payment or got my electricity shut off. I actually excelled at my job (because it was the only thing I felt like I was doing well at and I really put my focus into it). Of course I worked up a shit ton of credit card/loan debt, and hated myself eventually and kinda just wanted to die. But people on the outside didn't know. I got off opiates and still have the same job and house 6 years later.

I was functional in a sense... but at the same time my life wasn't working for me and I was miserable.
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Exactly, this is the kind of thing I'm on about. Can't really sustain opiate addiction because of tolerance. One way or another it eats at you eventually.

Congrats on being clean for six years!
 
Thanks, I actually relapsed over the summer/winter and I'm working on getting back to normal. Sucks because it's a struggle again to not crave opiates, it wasn't at all for a long time, I was so sure I'd never touch one again.
 
2spun4one said:
You know, there are certain people who have really good connects for their stuff, and pay very little,especially in larger quantities, than the average 20 sack a day Joe ends up with... And those who also have decent jobs can afford to buy that bulk. It's not their fault if it would price you out of the game to try and keep up. I know people that are perfectly happy to pay as much as 300% more than I do, so it's got a lot to do with the perspective of each person. Some if not most people would call me a hoarder if they actually knew the vast arsenal of dope I have, definately enough to get through a zombie apocalypse!! But thats me and my situation, and if I've got it to where I can do as much as I want whenever I want for as long as I want and I'm not facing a continuously growing financial burden, it's not any more my fault that others can't as much as it's not my fault I wasn't born into a wealthy family, it's just life. You know what they say about opinions, but facts are facts.
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Can I come over? 😁
 
Xorkoth said:
Thanks, I actually relapsed over the summer/winter and I'm working on getting back to normal. Sucks because it's a struggle again to not crave opiates, it wasn't at all for a long time, I was so sure I'd never touch one again.
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Hang in there brother.
It happens.

Let it go and just carry on.
You are doing just fine!
 
Xorkoth said:
Thanks, I actually relapsed over the summer/winter and I'm working on getting back to normal. Sucks because it's a struggle again to not crave opiates, it wasn't at all for a long time, I was so sure I'd never touch one again.
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Similar thing here. I legitimately didn't crave opiates at all when I first quit. But I started to slowly crave them more and more. Broke down and got myself a stash of DHC and a few OC80's. Most of the stash is just DHC and a bit of codeine though with only five oxys. Even though I was four months off any strong opiates I still needed 80mg oxy to get a high. But it was a really good high. I know though that by the time I get through these four I have left my tolerance will very quickly jump back up to where it was before and I'll be sick of it again.

Very fucking stupid of me to even accept this small amount to be honest. It was offered to me, could have said no, but I didn't.

On the bright side though I am very fucking high right now. On 100mg oxy, 420mg DHC, 2mg etizolam, 15mg dex. Gonna take a bit more oxy and get a nod on while my tolerance is still low enough.
 
Yeah my opiate tolerance is still quite high, not as high as it was in the depths of my addiction of course, but I was surprised how insensitive I was even after 6 years.
 
Wilson Wilson said:
Story as old as time itself mate nothing to be ashamed of especially since it sounds well in the past. If you've been off that shit for 10 years you should be proud not embarrassed!
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Thanks. But,

I wish I was 10 years clear of all that. Although, I like to think I'm at the tale end of that era of my life...
 
Functional selfemployed addict, too! Consume: weekend, holiday or free days like the fucking corona. PEACE
 
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