Misc Functional addicts - question

[jose ribas da silva]

I found this alittle negative, i try to emit & generate as much positive engergy as possible, that said, i have a drug use issue i suppose with regards to amounts used, however, aside from that, i can never say i've intentionally ever endangered myself, suffered physical trauma/damage, (mentally, my first wd has me completely doing any and everything possible not to happen again) What you describe can EASILY have been ANY substance, it's easy to fall back on a substance as a crutch, but if you realize it soon enough you're golden, but to say its a matter of time is untrue, sure i've had my close calls but, at the same time i've learned from those experiences, and will carry them with me for the rest of my life, and be able to share and pass them on, good or bad, if there's a positive outcome, thats what matters.

how much of your time do you dedicate to drugs?

 

[JessFR]

I found this alittle negative, i try to emit & generate as much positive engergy as possible, that said, i have a drug use issue i suppose with regards to amounts used, however, aside from that, i can never say i've intentionally ever endangered myself, suffered physical trauma/damage, (mentally, my first wd has me completely doing any and everything possible not to happen again) What you describe can EASILY have been ANY substance, it's easy to fall back on a substance as a crutch, but if you realize it soon enough you're golden, but to say its a matter of time is untrue, sure i've had my close calls but, at the same time i've learned from those experiences, and will carry them with me for the rest of my life, and be able to share and pass them on, good or bad, if there's a positive outcome, thats what matters.

I think that's naive. Some people (not many) can keep a hard drug habit under control so long as their life is still going good. They still have things they care about, reasons to keep things under control.

But even they are sitting on a time bomb. Because for most people, life will not be like that, all the time, forever. And addiction provides an environment where once things go bad, it gets progressively more difficult to reverse course.

 

[jose ribas da silva]

it gets progressively more difficult to reverse course.

Along with this, there are the scars, the scars are terrible, the inability of functioning after so many years dedicated to drugs. Many times this inability is due to permanent damage/biochemical conditioning in the brain.

 

[Zonxx]

I think that's naive. Some people (not many) can keep a hard drug habit under control so long as their life is still going good. They still have things they care about, reasons to keep things under control.

But even they are sitting on a time bomb. Because for most people, life will not be like that, all the time, forever. And addiction provides an environment where once things go bad, it gets progressively more difficult to reverse course.

i suppose our perspectives are different, when one wants to be 'happy' just like when one wants money, it's there, always will be, HOWEVER, you have to be capable of taking hold/advantage of it being there, and leap for it when you're able to, but rest assured i firmly believe that there'll always be light at the end of the tunnel, and No, it's not a train coming anyones way, we'd just like to think it were

Along with this, there are the scars, the scars are terrible, the inability of functioning after so many years dedicated to drugs. Many times this inability is due to permanent damage/biochemical conditioning in the brain.

i am facing this particular issue pain and extreme habituation to opiates, one thats regrettably led me to things i never expected to really do, but when in need, you'll always do what you feel is 'right' at the time, but overtime that 'right' can certainly evolve into wrong, but time will tell, time will heal, time will fix, time is what keeps the world spinning and us on that hamster wheel running, until we can't run no more. How we motivate ourselves to run that wheel is up to us, 'Addiction' is something we choose half the time the other half, its 'normal' and becomes part of our way of life, but that doesn't mean because it became part of it it can't not be part of it, sure you'll end up slamming once in awhile, if drugs are used with common sense there shouldn't be a huge issue, avoid health problems, maintain everything and all should go smoothely, no?

 

[Shortec Stublue!!]

“mentally making sure I do anything never to experience withdrawal again,” @Zonxx resonates so clearly lol.

It’s when your urge to get high (let’s say with minimal supply left) outdoes your fear of WD. I am currently waiting for a new script next week, and I know if I snort and gobble my way to a high tonight, a world of pain ensues so a conservative “self preservation” approach wins every time!!

 

[Jabberwocky]

Where do bingers fit into this argument. I know lots of people (many here and myself included I think) who are mainly functional human beings a large part of the time but periodically become dysfunctional when binging on drugs. Do they come under the addict category? I go off the rails a few times a year but always get brought back by concern for my close family and a sense of still wanting to achieve something meaningful with my life. Possibly also as a kind of 'fuck you' to people who wrote me off over the years when exposed to my dysfunctional episodes.

 

[Wilson Wilson]

Where do bingers fit into this argument. I know lots of people (many here and myself included I think) who are mainly functional human beings a large part of the time but periodically become dysfunctional when binging on drugs. Do they come under the addict category? I go off the rails a few times a year but always get brought back by concern for my close family and a sense of still wanting to achieve something meaningful with my life. Possibly also as a kind of 'fuck you' to people who wrote me off over the years when exposed to my dysfunctional episodes.

Going on a weekend binge now and then isn't addiction, binging is its own thing, although it can still be damaging when done to excess and can lead to addiction in some people. There's many people who started off "only doing opiates on the weekend" after all.

 

[opiatekrzy]

I would love to portray myself as a functional addict and devoted member of Bluelight since 2004, LOL. But truth is my life is very unfunctional at this moment, living in motel with girl selling to afford $6p a day plus food and our habits, knowing I have heat on me... stupidity. I want to close this chapter asap

 

[Specified]

I would love to portray myself as a functional addict and devoted member of Bluelight since 2004, LOL. But truth is my life is very unfunctional at this moment, living in motel with girl selling to afford $6p a day plus food and our habits, knowing I have heat on me... stupidity. I want to close this chapter asap

Who?

 

[Xorkoth]

I think that's naive. Some people (not many) can keep a hard drug habit under control so long as their life is still going good. They still have things they care about, reasons to keep things under control.

But even they are sitting on a time bomb. Because for most people, life will not be like that, all the time, forever. And addiction provides an environment where once things go bad, it gets progressively more difficult to reverse course.

It requires a steady supply of money to keep up with your usage. Some people are fortunate in that they can do that, perhaps they have a very high-paying job, or a trust fund, or wealthy parent or partner/etc to support them. But for the vast majority of us, gradually the lifestyle catches up you get pushed to the margins of society due to homelessness, being broke and forced to steal/etc, or start selling and getting caught up, and so forth. If every opiate addict had access to as much heroin/etc as they wanted, it would be a hell of a lot more sustainable to be an opiate addict.

 

[JessFR]

It requires a steady supply of money to keep up with your usage. Some people are fortunate in that they can do that, perhaps they have a very high-paying job, or a trust fund, or wealthy parent or partner/etc to support them. But for the vast majority of us, gradually the lifestyle catches up you get pushed to the margins of society due to homelessness, being broke and forced to steal/etc, or start selling and getting caught up, and so forth. If every opiate addict had access to as much heroin/etc as they wanted, it would be a hell of a lot more sustainable to be an opiate addict.

I definitely agree that if drugs were cheap and available reliably it would be much more sustainable.

However, in my experience you gotta have a LOT of money to have so much as to be able to keep up with a growing habit.

Cause generally in my experience, my use always just increased to whatever amount made up my entire capacity to afford.

 

[ions]

I definitely agree that if drugs were cheap and available reliably it would be much more sustainable.

However, in my experience you gotta have a LOT of money to have so much as to be able to keep up with a growing habit.

Cause generally in my experience, my use always just increased to whatever amount made up my entire capacity to afford.

You get what thrives in your environment. City affords variety. Country is limited .

 

[Xorkoth]

Yeah this was my roundabout way of saying it's not sustainable. Not with hard drugs, anyway, unless you're one of the rare individuals who doesn't constantly go towards more, more more.

Of course that also disregards the other issues, namely, neurochemical imbalance, physical/mental damage, etc (depending on the drug). I know that, although I did put myself tremendously into debt and had to declare bankruptcy at the end of the my opiate addiction, I also, towards the very end, found a bulk source of very strong poppy seeds that afforded me the opportunity to support my habit at about $5 a day, which was sustainable for me and which was not increasing because I figured out a dosing pattern which was sustainable (due to very long half-life, similar to methadone really). And yet, I still increasingly hated myself for my weakness, for what I was doing to those I loved, and because of the havoc I had wreaked on my natural reward/pleasure system.

 

[JessFR]

Yeah this was my roundabout way of saying it's not sustainable. Not with hard drugs, anyway, unless you're one of the rare individuals who doesn't constantly go towards more, more more.

Of course that also disregards the other issues, namely, neurochemical imbalance, physical/mental damage, etc (depending on the drug). I know that, although I did put myself tremendously into debt and had to declare bankruptcy at the end of the my opiate addiction, I also, towards the very end, found a bulk source of very strong poppy seeds that afforded me the opportunity to support my habit at about $5 a day, which was sustainable for me and which was not increasing because I figured out a dosing pattern which was sustainable (due to very long half-life, similar to methadone really). And yet, I still increasingly hated myself for my weakness, for what I was doing to those I loved, and because of the havoc I had wreaked on my natural reward/pleasure system.

Another big factor in this is withdrawal. Again just going on my own experiences. The worse of what people end up doing in addiction can probably be avoided so long as withdrawal is avoided.

Sure, I tended to use more and more up to however much I could afford. But I never would have stolen from people or prostituted myself or that kinda thing just to get high. It was withdrawal that compelled me into that kinda stuff.

There's a reason methadone and buprenorphine can be so effective at stabilizing people even when the high is crap or non existent.

The problem with heroin is that withdrawal comes on so fast. So in addition to the withdrawal itself you have to fear, you have this constant threat of it every day almost all the time.

 

[ions]

I smoke weed and drink beers. The Bill Murray disorder. Snorting cocaine seems a better option than needles.

 

[Isnortice91]

I think I'm a functional addict because on meth I keep my thoughts to my self and feel more like I'm forcing my self not to talk about stupid shit from my past in a attempt to impress people. When I'm sober I never double think things over in my head and sometimes will say things to my friends that is out of the ordinary just to see what reaction I get . Like when I'm sober I'm heavy into politics but when I'm stimulated on meth I can care less and keep my thoughts to my self .I also feel more mature when I'm on meth and more respectful to other people's opinions on me. Example would be this mean black lady got angry at everyone around me one time that I was waiting for a taxi in front of a bar. And she threatened to punch me if I didn't give her a cigarette. The sober me would've said I'll sue you bitch.
But the high me was like "no problem I respect you , and don't want any problems , here is a cigarette matter in fact here's 2 save one for later". She thanked me and walked away. That situation could of been nasty if I wasn't high on meth.

 

[Shortec Stublue!!]

What the fuck?

 

[2spun4one]

Using drugs of whatever variety, and being whichever type of addict you consider yourself seems to weigh heavy on the minds of the addict. I think if you consider yourself a functional addict now, its very likely that you weren't always a functional addict. There is real feelings of guilt a lot of people who use drugs carry around with them.
And then there is also some who have an open minded opinion of drug use, and others that don't see what they do as a problem. I'm a functionl user, but I've destroyed my life before, I would have done almost everything possible to feed my addiction, and I did. That was then. Functional to me, then, was being able to go out and steal anything I could. Now things have changed. I stopped using for 5 years, only relapsing twice. Although most people would say I'm a damn fool, I decided to dive right back into a meth addiction. The differences between then and now are plenty, but the main thing is that this time I knew what i was getting into, I knew where it could all lead to. And this time functional for me meant entirely different things. I stay completely out of that lifestyle, which means I don't hang around with anyone else who does meth, I'm not out trying to steal everything, no more petty shoplifting, no more uninhibited unprotected sex with methed out tweaker chicks, no more staying up for days, no more homelessness or running around on the streets all night, and a lot of other things too, I just cant think of them all at the moment. Now, I'm in it for the head change, for the enhancements that I get. I've managed to find the right connect where I pay a rediculously low price, so theres no financial burden. It's been a few years now that I've been back on the constant daily/nightly use regimen. It's not all that I want it to be, but I couldnt imagine stopping. That would produce a change in me that would be so incredibly noticeable that it would be a game changer and not for the better either. Plus I genuinely enjoy doing meth.

 

[Shortec Stublue!!]

Fair play for being honest @2spun4one

 

[Zonxx]

Using drugs of whatever variety, and being whichever type of addict you consider yourself seems to weigh heavy on the minds of the addict. I think if you consider yourself a functional addict now, its very likely that you weren't always a functional addict. There is real feelings of guilt a lot of people who use drugs carry around with them.
And then there is also some who have an open minded opinion of drug use, and others that don't see what they do as a problem. I'm a functionl user, but I've destroyed my life before, I would have done almost everything possible to feed my addiction, and I did. That was then. Functional to me, then, was being able to go out and steal anything I could. Now things have changed. I stopped using for 5 years, only relapsing twice. Although most people would say I'm a damn fool, I decided to dive right back into a meth addiction. The differences between then and now are plenty, but the main thing is that this time I knew what i was getting into, I knew where it could all lead to. And this time functional for me meant entirely different things. I stay completely out of that lifestyle, which means I don't hang around with anyone else who does meth, I'm not out trying to steal everything, no more petty shoplifting, no more uninhibited unprotected sex with methed out tweaker chicks, no more staying up for days, no more homelessness or running around on the streets all night, and a lot of other things too, I just cant think of them all at the moment. Now, I'm in it for the head change, for the enhancements that I get. I've managed to find the right connect where I pay a rediculously low price, so theres no financial burden. It's been a few years now that I've been back on the constant daily/nightly use regimen. It's not all that I want it to be, but I couldnt imagine stopping. That would produce a change in me that would be so incredibly noticeable that it would be a game changer and not for the better either. Plus I genuinely enjoy doing meth.

this post was so real it brought Pinocchio to life