RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

[flying-potato]

Just had a horrible night after dosing roughly 50mg of this stuff over the course of several hours. Some time after my last little dose of 10mg or so began to feel really fucked up. I laid down and for the rest of that night I had what felt exactly like a bad flu. Fever, horrible aches and pains, couldn't sleep.

I have not the same side effect each time i take it, sometime is smooth and sometime is horrible. Still don't understand what's happening.

 

[phuzed]

Well the flu like symptoms are the bodies way of fighting off what it thinks is a virus. For whatever reason my immune system went into overdrive. My hunch is it stemmed from insufflation more so than the 3-fpm high itself. Maybe the stuff caused too much inflammation. When I try it again I'm gunna stick to oral dose and see how it goes.

 

[flying-potato]

Well the flu like symptoms are the bodies way of fighting off what it thinks is a virus. For whatever reason my immune system went into overdrive. My hunch is it stemmed from insufflation more so than the 3-fpm high itself. Maybe the stuff caused too much inflammation. When I try it again I'm gunna stick to oral dose and see how it goes.

I get flu like effect too with the oral way. I think I really has flu. But flu does not cause pain, and 3-FPM make me feel pain in the inside of my tooth. Where do you feel pain ?

 

[crOOk]

Just shot 100mg MDMA and still have to say that 500mg 3F-P wins hands down!! MDMA doesn't get much more intense between 60 and 100mg IV for me, only the side effects will increase. 3F-P on the other hand I have to abort shots when it gets too much for me.

 

[zenit992]

Curious, you are far out, man. Faaar out.

 

[crOOk]

Curious, you are far out, man. Faaar out.

No he's not. He's on top. He is quite obviously on top of the world. It is not like he is about to become the laughing stock of the pro poker scene, it is not!

 

[PurpleLemons]

Figured I'd share in here, even if I am just reiterating what others have said...
Fairly new to RCs, so maybe a new perspective?

First experience wasn't the best, tried something branded, which was an unknown mix of MPA, 3-FPM, and MDAI... Wayyyy overdid it and binged like mad, to the point of worrying myself. Figured I'd look into the individual components, as there were some effects I liked. 3-FPM seemed the best (for me) of the three, as it seemed to have the least effect on temperature regulation/sweating. (I have a naturally high body temp, so not a good effect to run in to).
Bought from a reputable UK vendor, arrived in crystal form. Originally bought a gram, then 500mg the second time.

ROAs tested: Insufflation, Bombing, Sublingual, and Plugging. ~50mg for each.
Insufflation burnt like a mother... but was bearable. Didn't seem worth it overall though. Decent stim, but more tempting to redose.
Bombing is my personal favourite, First thing in the morning before a mugful of espresso, and I'm good to go for the day. Tempting to redose, but easy enough to ignore.
Sublingual was... not a pleasant experience. Canker sores, toothache, and a god-awful taste. No temptation to redose whatsoever.
Plugging was, again, weird. Unsure if it's just due to stims in general, or my personal reaction to 3-FPM, but it caused spasming for well over an hour afterwards. Muted effect, ended up bombing 20mg extra to get the same effect.
IV and Vaping are something I've vowed, from the start, never to attempt, as I've seen how addictive they can be. (cr00k, you're a lifesaver. While it's not nice to know someone's been through what you and others have gone through, it's a good that it deters others, in terms of dose, frequency, and roa)

Noticed that I have little to no effect if I dose within a few days (Well, no positive effects. Ramping up the dosage to chase the feeling just gives negatives). Have to take a break of at least 4 days to be able to feel the effects again.
Clean stim, although it makes me smoke more and drink a lot more coffee. Good to take in the morning after a good sleep. Bad to take at night to stay awake for an appt/work/whatever.
Unsure if it was the 3-FPM (50mg at ~3am, and another 20mg at ~10am), or the increased smoking (and no break in smoking due to sleep), but when used to stay up all night, end up coughing up small amounts of blood marbled into the phlegm. Also had chest tightness, but I believe that was due to the sheer amount of caffeine that was in my system, and that passed after around 20 mins.

All in all? Me likey. Just gotta stick to small amounts, and irregular breaks to avoid forming a habit.

Edit: Should probably add, for scale... 500mg lasted me a little over 5 weeks.

 

[bootie]

Anybody with a fucking pain in the tooth as a side effect in high dose ? What a fuck is this shit ?

honestly its not your tooth it's the snorting,i always feel my gums and teeth ache, your nerves just send off some random singals lol

 

[bootie]

Baking soda that burns and does not damage, I doubt that lol Nice try

Both nostrils were first to go for me after only a week of continual use, something was destroyed up there or infected. My nose got all infected on both sides and scabs growing up in the nostrils, not a pretty site.

I'm telling you if you plan to do a few lines that ROA take it easy, lightly and not too much or you can expect serious damage to your inner nostrils for weeks even months to come; moreso than any other RC that I've ever tried. 5-MAPB burns but no signs of damage, I don't even care about the other RC"s anymore and have tried most of em.

I'm running WILD and hitting CASINOS now and JACKPOTS on this stuff so it's brought me LUCK and made me FEEL YOUNG and Like a Little Dr. Do Little Pick up Hustler Pimp Master Jack.

The bunnies love my new outfits, my oh my, I run around looking like Batman practically - What a Hero I am atm on this stuff and especially in bed or so they say lol

Been mostly sticking to the "Plugging" and got the Honey Bunnies interested in playing around with it down there, kicks in nice and then we shift and I do it for them.

Vaping works off and on but not as intense of effects and shorter duration, takes more to get intense effects meaning. Big Big Big hits in quicker amounts of time necessary, needs to be clean w/no burn and perfectly VAPED to hit well.

Intravenous kind of a waste now I'm feeling, it's OK but only if you know what you are doing. For most unaware of how to do it, not worth the risk, just get someone to plug it in a syringe up your arse instead. lol

Another 150 g's on the way and I promised people this would be limited to 3-5g max use a day but my tolerance is building so let's safely say 4-6g's a day.

it is just me or am I better looking now when looking in the mirror and going out?

So they say, the 3-FPM has brought a sense of red blush in my face that turns the little rabbits on, can't wait for them to step outside into the limo and head off to the Casino as I've been a steady high roller on this stuff for the last few weeks now going under a new name. lol

Ok enough information, take it easy on use is my advice, watch the speed limit signs and never run ouf of gas while on the road, keep your 3-FPM tank filled to the tippy.

lol i was kidding, but i don't think i use high enough doses repeatedly to feel too sick, like i said i think, that's horrible though for you. my nose has been kinda disappearing for overa year now but it must be bloody made of steel

 

[Peacephrog1972]

Well I quit kratom daily use and got a free sample of this so I figured id sample it to combat fatigue

50mg oral did not much but give me some f the worst heartburn of my life....just super bad, I mean terrible

Next day I thought wtf... 75mg oral

This stuff is so flipping caustic, I have the worst heartburn ever, it's prolly ate a hole in my stomach

Never again....anyone want a gram? I'm dumping it in the toilet....this stuff cannot be good for your body in any shape or form

 

[flying-potato]

honestly its not your tooth it's the snorting,i always feel my gums and teeth ache, your nerves just send off some random singals lol

That's great. I prefer random pain signal than hided real harm.

 

[zenit992]

I sometimes get the sensation of being poked with something really small and sharp all over my body, more so in areas that suffer most from vasoconstriction. This happens on high doses, though.

 

[Curious777]

No he's not. He's on top. He is quite obviously on top of the world. It is not like he is about to become the laughing stock of the pro poker scene, it is not!

Actually Crooky, they lovey dovey dovey my ALL IN's (The babes that is) most give me the respect I deserve and FOLD.

Ya need to stay out of the way when you have a GOD playing poker in the house knowing outcomes before they happen.

So I had 2/3 of diamonds and someone pushed the rest of their little stack in at around $140 with KK, but with my little 2/3 of diamonds I had a feeling and went with it.

Insta CALL - Flop came out J3627

A little Luck, More Luck and you guessed it plenty to F**ck.
Baby baby baby, it's not a maybe, it's a movie and your the *STAR*

Am I way out there, yeah I am because Diamond Rings can't buy you happiness but 3-FPM can bring you Eternal Joy and Bliss beyond measure.

The last batch of 3-FPM I received seemed weaker for some reason so been going through 6 - 8 g's a day. (That is with sharing so not all on my own)

Babes love it up the arse both ways via Fluid Syringe injection and hold it take your time until it hits right then after, sticking it deep up in there because I get hard and turned on and can't resist.

They do the same with me when rectal admin/plugging is in the works. However they like afterwards sticking their fingers and tongues deep down inside and licking all around which works as well for me.

I have had pleasures beyond measures on 3-FPM, damn does it turn the Honey Bunnies on and Damn it gets me super HOT, more open sexually and have tried nearly all things including allowing some of them to piss on me while doing another up the arse. felt warm yet a surprise and something different, the babes then licked each other all apart and I joined.

More 3-FPM time and forget about the thought of Diamonds or winning a Jacpot makes you happy, it doesn't last. It's the jackpot that makes it FUN so more 3-FPM can be purchased and the Honey Bunny games continue.


Ta Ta and take it easy on the dosages, I use in moderation the 6 - 8 grams is not all at once of course but within a 24hr period or as my body feels the need for more. Plus I share with WOMEN, usually lots of them and they LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT...

 

[Curious777]

Figured I'd share in here, even if I am just reiterating what others have said...
Fairly new to RCs, so maybe a new perspective?

First experience wasn't the best, tried something branded, which was an unknown mix of MPA, 3-FPM, and MDAI... Wayyyy overdid it and binged like mad, to the point of worrying myself. Figured I'd look into the individual components, as there were some effects I liked. 3-FPM seemed the best (for me) of the three, as it seemed to have the least effect on temperature regulation/sweating. (I have a naturally high body temp, so not a good effect to run in to).
Bought from a reputable UK vendor, arrived in crystal form. Originally bought a gram, then 500mg the second time.

ROAs tested: Insufflation, Bombing, Sublingual, and Plugging. ~50mg for each.
Insufflation burnt like a mother... but was bearable. Didn't seem worth it overall though. Decent stim, but more tempting to redose.
Bombing is my personal favourite, First thing in the morning before a mugful of espresso, and I'm good to go for the day. Tempting to redose, but easy enough to ignore.
Sublingual was... not a pleasant experience. Canker sores, toothache, and a god-awful taste. No temptation to redose whatsoever.
Plugging was, again, weird. Unsure if it's just due to stims in general, or my personal reaction to 3-FPM, but it caused spasming for well over an hour afterwards. Muted effect, ended up bombing 20mg extra to get the same effect.
IV and Vaping are something I've vowed, from the start, never to attempt, as I've seen how addictive they can be. (cr00k, you're a lifesaver. While it's not nice to know someone's been through what you and others have gone through, it's a good that it deters others, in terms of dose, frequency, and roa)

Noticed that I have little to no effect if I dose within a few days (Well, no positive effects. Ramping up the dosage to chase the feeling just gives negatives). Have to take a break of at least 4 days to be able to feel the effects again.
Clean stim, although it makes me smoke more and drink a lot more coffee. Good to take in the morning after a good sleep. Bad to take at night to stay awake for an appt/work/whatever.
Unsure if it was the 3-FPM (50mg at ~3am, and another 20mg at ~10am), or the increased smoking (and no break in smoking due to sleep), but when used to stay up all night, end up coughing up small amounts of blood marbled into the phlegm. Also had chest tightness, but I believe that was due to the sheer amount of caffeine that was in my system, and that passed after around 20 mins.

All in all? Me likey. Just gotta stick to small amounts, and irregular breaks to avoid forming a habit.

Edit: Should probably add, for scale... 500mg lasted me a little over 5 weeks.

I've done all routes of administration and am far above Crook or Crooky the Crooky Monster in knowledge and experience when it comes to this Chem.

#1 Best way to take it hands down is intravenously but has to be done correctly and safely and not in too high of a dose. (Especially for 1st timers)

#2 Best way to take it hands down Orally, I say that because it has a way of metabolizing into your system and you feel the right effects and not overwhelming but make sure you dose at least 200mg or more to really get anything out of it.

#3 Plugging, it's good but sometimes difficult to get in there and perfectly, it takes a little effort and can burn in there. I wouldn't over do it or plug all the time but on occasion giving it a rest.

#4 Vaporizing honestly it's a waste to vaporize this stuff, it doesn't at all bring you good effects on the level of the other ROA's as if something is missing or discluded when hitting the bloodstream but I still continue to do so time to time anyway. Is it addicting, not for me. I could stop doing it any time I choose if I choose. Meth on the other hand is more of challenge to quit versus 3-FPM. You should have no problem with stopping when it comes to vaping because the reward in the brain is not really that great but fun to give it a few rounds for the heck of it.

#5 Sublingual under the tongue, can burn and cause soars, works somewhat but honestly for me once again.best way is - Intravenously and must be administered professionally, in other words you need to know what you are doing and what to mix it with for security reasons in the right dosage and amount.

#6 Insufflation and no disrespect, it can feel good and hit in the beginning but you must already realize there is a reason for the burn and pain you are experiencing in doing it. It's your body telling you something, rejecting it, telling you this is Fckkknnn poison up my nostrils. You may last doing it up to a week if you're lucky without getting an infection or your nose getting all messed up inside but guaranteed this is not a long term ROA without having serious damage even infection.

On that note: If you still want to do a line or two, I suggest you do this to lessen your change of infection or damage. Make a smaller more thinner line and snort it up as fast as possible avoiding all internal contact then hold your nose and allow it to come through and down as it does. Quit sniffing it out and in, take it up quick and in a thin line. NEVER a thicker line that can't cleanly get up there and faster.

THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE AND SAFEST ALL AROUND WAY # 1 pick- Probably everyone should do this anyway - Mix it in with juice or a shake in around 200-300mg and guzzle it on down. If that is to much for you then half it 100-150mg guzzle it down, too much still, half that 50-75mg guzzle it down. You might not feel much of a kick on that low of a dose, I learned it takes more to really get anything about of this chem or you will probably think it's not something special.


WELL IT IS SPECIAL BUT ONLY IN THE HIGHER DOSE or RIGHT DOSE specifically for you.


Try and Try until you get the PIE

Vaping, I've wasted far too many grams on it and wasn't worth it at all. WEAK WEAK WEAK, something is lacking and not fulfilling, something is missing and that is after VAPING in clouds upon clouds upon clouds in grams and grams, clean clouds unburnt perfectly vaped. Compare that to Meth and totally different picture, Meth HITS and HITS clean and GOOD if it's clean and GOOD Meth, nothing like 3-FMP


Stay away from Vaping, never know what it's doing to your lungs anyway.

ORAL is best with a shake mixed in or whatever you so choose to cover the bitterness of the chem.

I would say away from syringes altogether is my best advice if you don't know what you're doing, don't even start or begin wanting to learn.

PEACE

 

[Curious777]

I Wanted to add.

I have been recklessly and carelessly taking this 3-FPM and pushing myself to the limits even to points of near OD suicidal binge.

I am more than 100% confident now that this chem is nearly impossible to OD on unless perhaps it's your first few times and you push it way beyond the boundary/limits.

Heart rate is usually better when on this chem in comparison to other more dangerous street-cut amphetaines such as Meth/Crank/Speed nearly all the same and if I pushed myself to the limits with anyone of those found on the street in the same way I have with 3-FMP I would have been hospitalized over and over if not dead before making it there.

3-FPM is the safest and cleanest however long term effects or Toxicity over time of possible internal damage occurring is undetermined but the same could be said for many RC's and Pharmaceuticals approved on the market that have not actually been long term tested only safely tested on a certain % of mankind before hitting the market.

My point and addition is this.

Have NO FEAR in 3-FPM or in ever over-dosing or over-taking. That is in your own mind and your anxiety building up on you.

I'm not here saying this with bad intention of wanting someone to overdose, not all all because I feel that is nearly impossible if you ask me however what I am saying is.

You may feel like you are overdosing or have taken too much but you are SAFE and it's in your head so just relax, drink some beer which is good to relax you or take some valium or any other downer if you feel the need to calm down abit.

DRINKING with 3-FPM is awesome and you can drink as much as you want, alcohol in my opinion was made for this drug and should be used hand in hand with it at times.


NO conflicts there, I've had bottles of whisky, vodka, rum all on grams of 3-FMP with zero problems and it actually intensifies the feeling overall if you ask me but doesn't get me drunk or in drunken stupor. I can hold a straight conversation with the ladies like "Hey Babe, my place say 3am sharp." Ok so a little humor but I can hold straight conversations as if I haven't had a drink all night after consuming bottles of alcohol.


REMEMBER, your mind controls your body not the chem in your body, your mind is the most power thing you have inside of you so USE IT and do not FEAR ever overtaking this chemical but also use WISDOM and JUDGEMENT in what you take it with.

I would never take 3-FMP with certain other drugs period other than alcohol or valium, klonopin, any other downer such as this but if taking valium or klonopin don't drink stick to one or the other when using 3-FMP Alcohol or 1 of the Benzo class type. Don't mix all 3.

Make sure you force yourself to drink enough water even if you don't feel the urge or thirsty your body definitely needs it.

Same with food, even if you don't feel hungry don't go past so a meal without having at least a few bites to keep metabolism and body functioning.

Last but not least.

Do something good for someone each day, try to find a way to help someone however you can. Opportunities present themselves all the time but we pass them right by. How did I know the older lay that lived next door had the hots for me and wanted deep anal sex, I didn't. But I did her the favor and it has blessed her life, well I hope you can give more on a different level than what I have. I have brought her dinner and chocolates but she keeps wanting the original sin and I have a hard time disappointing her and a busy schedule. Practice makes perfect and the other Honey Bunnies Im dating want me to show them the double bunny hole rolling through one to another and another. 2 Bunnies with their tootsie's up, 4 holes and we kind of play tic tac toe for a while. Eventually I come and it's usually not the pussy...


Sorry way too much information.


Just be wise, never even came close to Overdosing accept for in the beginning of my use when pushing myself to the limit.

Now my body is trained and immune to such levels, I also don't feel as much energy recently and can eat and sleep much easier for some reason.

The last 3-FPM I received may be not 100% pure and hosed down, hard to know, tastes the same, looks the same but just doesn't do it for me the same unless using in much larger doses than I normally would have to. 1.5 g mixed in shake, 500 insufflation I'v beaten Crocky's record intravenously at 1,200 mg but recommend not to try it again. It was not the best experience for me although felt good, it sent me to outer space somewhere for a short time and had visions of creation so messed with my head some. Vaporizing I have done way too much, way way too much. Enough to say it's not even worth doing it that way. The reward is not there and risk of lung damage is there so best to stay away. Plugging, go for it until you burn your arse and vessels out some and give it time to heal before doing it again .

GO WITH THE BOMB,,, a blasted milkshake something with lots of milk and things inside so your body can properly digest it without risking kidney/liver damage.

On that NOTE:

I've decided just tonight to find capsules, buy a scale to measure in mg's and only take 1 capsule a day at a maximum of 100mg per tablet.

I only have a scale that weighs 5-50 grams.

I'm choosing to cut down to 100mg's only a day from 5+ and above grams of use for the past nearly 2 months.

Wish me luck and pray for me if possible.

YES it's as if I love this stuff but feel I need to also double check and remind the checm that it's still me MY MIND behind the body in CONTROL not the chem.

Plan is 14 days straight of this and then we will know for certain if I'm YODA or have been overtaken by the Dark Forces of 3-FPM...


PEACE!

 

[sekio]

Have NO FEAR in 3-FPM or in ever over-dosing or over-taking.

Until it starts inducing the typical stimulant tics, paranoia etc.

It is quite forgiving, but that's not an excuse to throw caution to the wind and just binge recklessly on it. Don't you kid yourself.

Even caffeine will bite you in the ass if you take 10-20x the normal dose.

 

[Curious777]

Until it starts inducing the typical stimulant tics, paranoia etc.

It is quite forgiving, but that's not an excuse to throw caution to the wind and just binge recklessly on it. Don't you kid yourself.

Even caffeine will bite you in the ass if you take 10-20x the normal dose.

That's your own opinion and from lack of experience.

Caffeine is DANGEROUS in large amounts if taken in high dose, I had an ambulance years ago before I even did 3-FPM come and help aid me with oxygen from overtaking too much Caffeine at once. I felt I couldn't breath and was having a panic attack and that was from Caffeine tablets alone

I'm extremely more than confident with the experience i've had with 3-FMP that Caffeine can put you more at risk than 3-FPM in high doses. Much greater risk because there is a limit in what your body can handle with the Caffeine. 3-FPM an analogue of Phenmetrazine is entirely different and suits your body well, it has been around a long time Phenmetrazine (preludin) even used with soldiers and long term tested on patients with obesity problems as it assists also in suppressing the appetite.

Now what you say is yourself thinking around the bush and trying to be logical about it which is fine, but don't kid yourself either if you've never even tried it. Caffeine is more dangerous than 3-FMP I would say, yep you heard it from me. Taking Caffeine in larger doses is MUCH more dangerous than taking 3-FPM in large doses. I know I couldn't handle it and had an ambulance come for me because i was struggling to breath when overtaking caffeine.

3-FPM never struggled only a few times when laying in bed within the first week more like adjusting in adaptation mode.

I have pushed myself to what some may even consider to be the suicidal limits on 3-FPM in all ROA's even simultaneously at times and never even came close to ODing. Any other drug or chem I've used if I pushed it as far as I have with 3-FPM I would have undoubtedly been there or close so it's relatively SAFE if you ask me and no RISK or CONCERN of overtaking. Long term effects and internal toxic effects are unknown but so are most drugs in the pharma world even on the market. Just sharing my experience, but keep in mind what may be 100% safe for one person may not be the same for another. We all have different chemical make up in ways and allergies. In my opinion though 3-FPM is the BOMB if taken in the amount that best suits you and mix it in with a shake orally for starters in the morning.

He is quite obviously on top of the world.

Why thank you Crooky, so far it has appeared that way and my colleagues have noticed after turning over my company and letting go of the life i used to live behind the desk.

It's about time for some real action and adventure and 3-FPM has allowed that to happen, I am glad I read all of your posts in this thread they pushed me into attempting things I probably never would have if it wasn't without you.

I owe you one Crooky, I pushed myself to beat your max dose injection in which i did by quite a ways and how wonderful indeed it was. I won't be intravenously taking anymore though out of decision on visiting what I felt to be outer space after the last big one lol


orally has worked quite well, rectally is fun only with the right ladies around and when sharing.

No more lines up the nose.

No more under the tongue.

No more vaping it's a waste.

ORAL ORAL ORAL all the way
and occasional Rectal from now on.

At least I hold the record so far on shooten em up and I didn't miss the vein but damn I did feel some stinging action then a calmness and blissness and indescribable passing of the moon to another area outside of space.

Never doing it again, shouldn't have attempted to do what the Crooky did himself and beyond what he did.

3-FPM way better still than MDMA or any other junk chit out there including Meth that only fucks with you over time and destroys you.

This you have control over, it doesn't control me I control it.

Haven't had any for a while now and still Ok with it, maybe it's about that time though.

Curious, you are far out, man. Faaar out.

I'll take that as a compliment in that I'm far out of anyone's league yet to come close to experiencing all I have with 3-FPM and some of the other previous chems.

I take my time, I thoroughly put things to the test. I put my hours in and yes this is a SUPER HERO booster drug for me, it's who I really am anyway.

Brings the best out of me and Nah I'm not trying to brag or boast I was on top of the world in business and finance years ago, means nothing to me.

All that matters now is the action, entertainment and fun that goes along with it.

As the song goes, it's my life and i aint gonna life forever...

Keep the drum rolling please

Enjoy the rest of your days while you still can working for someone or yourself or living out an adventure and dream.

I prefer staying on vacation forever.

My day is now starting off beautiful and so is she, "Hey gotta meet her and get some of that today."

 

[sekio]

Now what you say is yourself thinking around the bush and trying to be logical about it which is fine, but don't kid yourself either if you've never even tried it.

I've tried this compound many times. For me, I find you can quite easily take too much and end up a sweaty, shaking mess. (And I test my shit with a GCMS, so don't get into the purity dicksizing)

All I'm saying is, "the dose makes the posion", and just because one individual can take huge doses, doesn't mean everyone can, nor that it should be encouraged. This is a harm reduction forum, after all.

 

[bootie]

100% agree, it never feels 'TOO MUCH' like ethyl could make you feel, it's very chill. i honestly am bored of it now, anyone tried any of the other similars?

 

[Peacephrog1972]

Ummmmmm.....75mg bombed gave me the worst heartburn I've ever experienced in my lifetime.....if I wasn't experienced with heartburn I would of ended up in an ER thinking I was having a heart attack

This stuff is caustic beyond belief....why anyone would think this stuff isn't eating away your insides is beyond me....WTF??