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RCs 3F-Phenmetrazine (3-FPM)

Guinea Pig2 said:
How's you Edgymann?

I've not had any issues with the ratio i IV or my partner. Blending them both does not fulfil the desired effect i seek... Let me know if you blend others that combine nicely with a rapid onset of a rush that takes the breath away.

Just going to enjoy 250mg of ethylphenidate administered in 50ml water - yum yum, lol...
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Still tickin along, I had quite pleasurable effects from 400mgMPA/90mg 3fpm/40 mg nm2ai
Felt that good forgot to take tourniq off for a minute until I noticed the pain so I had a really hot arm for an hour but Otherwise I found that to be beautiful

Edit: Should probably mix to tolerance I guess,' my MPA tolerance is high I've been binging it for weeks now hence the 400 opposed to the 100 mark
 
Small update: Ive slept about 5 hours before being waked up by a loud sound.
I still feel some stimulant residue, a bit twitchy, jaws a little clenched still, I have hunger but my dry mounth makes it hard to eat something.

I have a crave to redose... might have to be carefull with this. Sticking with weed today
 
Edgymann said:
Still tickin along, I had quite pleasurable effects from 400mgMPA/90mg 3fpm/40 mg nm2ai
Felt that good forgot to take tourniq off for a minute until I noticed the pain so I had a really hot arm for an hour but Otherwise I found that to be beautiful

Edit: Should probably mix to tolerance I guess,' my MPA tolerance is high I've been binging it for weeks now hence the 400 opposed to the 100 mark
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You do know the tourniquet needs to come off PRE injection, right?
 
first time i took it i couldn't pee for hours, very strange cause i usually cant stop doing the toilet when stimmed up. Apart from that wasn't to bad esp mixed with a little mpa.
 
Hello, from what I have red on this topic this stuff seems evil and moreish, that's why I have ordered 500 mg just to try off it and give it a chance. I have done 4-FA before, enjoyed it much but finally quit after repeated use because of its moreish and long terms, also because the substance are somewhat similar I am interested in its recreational use.
Since snorting seems painful, and I have already tried it with EPH, worst s**t ever tried so I flushed all the stuff down the sink. Should I previously freeze my nose with coated ice cubes to reduce the pain, till its numbing with the drug itself?
 
can you not just put it in a roll up skin and swallow it if you dont want noseburn? failing that try the suppository delivery system8o i read about on here earlier ha ha Mind you had some of the new stuff Ethylnaphthidate thats listed as a legal RC in uk earlier much smoother on nostril. Did have little bit 3fmp and mpa mixed up in roll up paper and gubbed it couple hours before that new eph so maybe that made my nose less sore lol all i know i got a good buzz out of it all. Still didn't pee much must be 3fpm that only does that to me.
 
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Holy shit.
Just tried this substance intravenously again, after a disappointing experience a few days/weeks back.

Been chasing for approaching 4 days and, as I've come to expect, the returns were becoming vastly reduced over the course of the session

~240mg was dissolved in 2ml sterile saline solution with the intention being 2 equal shots administered in quick succession. 250mg vaped being a solid dose prior.

Once the solution had been altered via electrolytic methods using simple NaCl, it was filtered through a partition of lab filter (the pore size of which I cannot recall), drawn up, and tourniquet applied; registered very easily using a forearm vein and thus began the descent of the plunger at a rate of 0.2ml/sec.
At the halfway mark I was treated to the drooping of one's eyelids, akin to that of injected Opioids.
3-FPM has a pretty well documented 'rush' associated with it; hence the popularity of vaping over the relatively impotent oral administration and obscene caustic irritation that rivals 2C-I when exposed to delicate tissue membrane.

This attempt (240mg IV) was/is absolutely incomparable to any rush 3-FPM, or any stimulant for that matter, has ever produced in me. Mainly in that it is a very tranquil, anxiolytic and almost dissociative experience.

Nothing like the EgoFiend that is I.V./Smoked Cocaine, nor the cerebral bullet train that M-Amp readily provides. Very unique, very empathogenic, very powerful, and most surprising of all: very visual! 8O

Admittedly the 'severe' sleep deprivation unfortunately adds a darker, more persecutory, angle to the visual manifestations - if one can dismiss the coat rock anthropomorphism then artifacts of geometry and perception are to be found. To me, they were not dissimilar to those experienced on Tryptamines, but never becoming too much of a 'feature'.

I.e. The amber glow from the street lighting meshed with the woodland backing to form angular 'units' resembling those seen in 'The Fifth Element'.
 
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GerS Punk said:
first time i took it i couldn't pee for hours, very strange cause i usually cant stop doing the toilet when stimmed up. Apart from that wasn't to bad esp mixed with a little mpa.
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You do the toilet when ur stimmed up?
As in you go potty in your pants lol? Or you fuck your toilet?

:D:p
 
trying to be polite seeing I'm new, then ok i usually cant stop going to the loo for a piss when i'm stimmed up , that better. :D or as we say in Scotland gan for a slash ie the slash dash ha ha
 
Alcohol is great for combating stim-induced urinary retention by various mechanisms, one being a direct reversal (or rather antagonism of agonism) of the major (AD)hormone spike that MDXx and its ilk are notorious for.
You're in Glasgow, get the beers down ya! ;)
 
People stop snorting this stuff for fuck's sake. It's by far most pleasant when taken orally. There are two scenarios:
-You want a rush: IV injection or inhalation will be your only options.
-You can live without a rush: Take it orally

There is no reason whatsoever to insufflate this stuff. It hurts, it damages your mucous membranes, the effects are in no way superior over those caused by an oral dose.
 
Seems like this thread has a different view on this stuff than I.

I hated it at first. I started with a 40 mg bump and hated it. And then another 40 mg bump to see if I could kick it up a notch and all it did was make me uncomfortable, anxious and stimulated in a really bad way.

Then later on the same day I tied the 40 mg bump, I toned it down and tried 20 mg and much preferred it. It wasn't an uncomfortable dirty high where I couldn't manage my thoughts, instead it was just a nice stimulation.


I've had the stuff for three or four weeks now and a gram has lasted me this long with about a quarter still left over and I'm the type of person who if there's a bag of, say, coke in front of me, it needs to be done before I go to bed. But this stuff isn't like that for me. I can do a couple bumps to pick me up before going to the gym or before going to out for the night and be able to sleep afterwards without any ill effect other than having a plugged nose (my nose is super fucked primarily from previous mephedrone and meth use paired with an ongoing love relationship with ketamine and a hate relationship with coke.) Whenever I do 3fpm now, I just take one tiny bump at about 10 mg every two or three hours on an as needed basis. On Friday I went out for the night and was feeling a little down so I popped to my car to have myself a tiny bump and it got things going and I was able to sleep and wake up for work the next day without any problem after waiting ~2 hours for the residual effects to wear off.

This is the first time I've said this about any substance but with the one, less is truly more. I find no pleasure in trying to get any rush or euphoria from this substance though. Meth and MDMA seem to be the only things that are able to push me into feelings of euphoria anymore so a stimulant like this is a breath of fresh air after all this trial and error with all this other shit on the market. Namely EPH. Fuck EPH.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
At the halfway mark I was treated to the drooping of one's eyelids, akin to that of injected Opioids.
3-FPM has a pretty well documented 'rush' associated with it; hence the popularity of vaping over the relatively impotent oral administration and obscene caustic irritation that rivals 2C-I when exposed to delicate tissue membrane.

This attempt (240mg IV) was/is absolutely incomparable to any rush 3-FPM, or any stimulant for that matter, has ever produced in me. Mainly in that it is a very tranquil, anxiolytic and almost dissociative experience.

Nothing like the EgoFiend that is I.V./Smoked Cocaine, nor the cerebral bullet train that M-Amp readily provides. Very unique, very empathogenic, very powerful, and most surprising of all: very visual! 8O

Admittedly the 'severe' sleep deprivation unfortunately adds a darker, more persecutory, angle to the visual manifestations - if one can dismiss the coat rock anthropomorphism then artifacts of geometry and perception are to be found. To me, they were not dissimilar to those experienced on Tryptamines, but never becoming too much of a 'feature'.

I.e. The amber glow from the street lighting meshed with the woodland backing to form angular 'units' resembling those seen in 'The Fifth Element'.
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Yup, the eye-lid dropping. Definitely remarkable for a stimulant and exactly why I proclaimed this substance must have significant serotonergic effects in the highest dosage range after my first dose.
 
Good idea mate beer for breaky %), nothing better to do at this time of morn.
 
GerS Punk said:
least i know someone bothered reading my ramblings during the night 8(
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And makes hilarious and criminally unappreciated innuendos with '4 Words And a Hyphen'.
I admit I'm tweaked but that has to be a soft porn film for Logophiles? 8(
 
must admit i had to google what a logophile was, expecting something else ha
 
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