bayarea456
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Actually the only way I'm gonna come back to earth is if YOU clean my house!
help please. best friend is in the mental hospital ... he did acid 5 days ago.
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I'm always more concerned that my cleaner will dip into my stash 
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You must be really far gone. This could take longer than we originally thought. Eat some cookies.
It sounds like your friend developed a great sense of humor after his psychotic episode. Perhaps this is a really well executed troll?
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they did put him on meds. i dont know the names of it. should i ask my friend if he is on lithium? and if not i should get the doc to give him it?
so yes an update guys.... almost 3 months later and my friend is still rocked... he no longer thinks he has super powers but he is talking completely crazy and even has a different voice tone as if he is crazy... he is talking about building an empire and talking about stuff that make no sense.. it is very sad.. i dont think he will ever be the same
his snapchat stories are of him with teddy bears and random stuff like the text of it is "whos with me" with a pic of him and teddy bears.
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I guess lithium is more for manic depression than general craziness. I better leave the prescribing to the doctors. Maybe he's a goner and there's just nothing anyone can do for him. It happens sometimes. Do some research about a guy named Sid Barret from Pink Floyd as an example.
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Hmmmm, the two snapchats that you've shared were "who's with me" and "my best friends", all involving the teddy bears.
Isn't this indicative of the fact that maybe he's a bit lonely and trying to call out through symbolic messages?
It sounds to me like he might have some issues about friends deserting him, and is trying to express himself.
If that is the case, then you need to understand that he is in a very dark place and a part of him is possibly trying to reach out from it.
Is this how you feel? Am I the only one thinking this?
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I spoke to him and he said the doctor has him prescribed on Zyprexxra. Do you guys recommend i tell him to talk to the doctor about getting Lithium instead?
also i did take screenshots of his snapchat story that he had last week. i wont post publicly online but if anyone wants they can private message me and i can share with you..
another thing is my friend is telling me he has lots of anxiety now. he thinks its the meds. but i told him to manup so you can get healthy again. but yea.
also i did take screenshots of his snapchat story that he had last week. i wont post publicly online but if anyone wants they can private message me and i can share with you..
another thing is my friend is telling me he has lots of anxiety now. he thinks its the meds. but i told him to manup so you can get healthy again. but yea.
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Lol, I'm glad you told him to man up so he can get better. That's probably the best advice I've ever seen on here. He'll definitely pull through now.
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I can't help but think that I'm somehow responsible for people thinking lithium can fix crazy people because I mentioned that a person I know was on it and then they stopped and they got all crazy and shit. Thing is, lithium is only good for manic depression, not general craziness. I don't know what you would do for that really. Lithium also has lots of side effects so nobody should take it if they don't have to.
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well i told him to manup and take the meds... because he was bitching that he didnt want to take them lol. and i got annoyed.
also guys is it ok to start rehabbing/correcting my friend when he talks about crazy stuff? and confronting him that he makes no sense and that its not normal to talk the way he is talking? or would it be bad.
like he talks about building an exmpire with me and i want to call him out and explain to him how he makes no sense... and maybe see if he can use any logic to see that im right and avoid these type of convos in the future... or would this be bad..
i noticed when i talk to him, he makes references to a superhero. and tell me "am i making sense" like 50 times. i want to call him out and tell him that hes sounding crazy and that you shouldnt tell people if your making sense 50 times.. and maybe he can learn and not do this? idk i know the doctors say not to do this.. but i feel like i should...
Listen to the doctor. Proper reinforcement and punishment skills are hard to put into practice without causing the damage your friend is suffering. Don't reinforce his delusions of course, but don't entertain/reject them to the point he gets lost in them. He needs to forget about these future fantasies and focus on the present. If he goes off topic into past/future try getting the topic switched to something else in the present....
Talk about a tree or cloud in view out of nowhere or how it is great to be with a friend you can express yourself to without fear of a negative or restraining response or something.
Talk about a tree or cloud in view out of nowhere or how it is great to be with a friend you can express yourself to without fear of a negative or restraining response or something.
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This looks like a pretty severe case. He's not pulling out of it. Not much you can do really. Mental illness is a sad reality of life. He may stay like that forever, like Sid Barret did. Just visit him now and then so he knows you haven't abandoned him but there's probably not much else you can do for him. You can't really talk a person out of craziness. It's a chemical thing in his brain, some kind of neurotransmitter imbalance. Maybe Ibogaine would help by "resetting" his brain but it would be a long shot.
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This. Sometimes when people first discover the pliability of reality they can be a bit excessive about it. Psychedelics have a way of removing limitations and it can take some experimentation to re-establish a more appropriate, but expanded, sense of reality. And of course, this is completely frowned upon, not just by the status-quo, but most of the counter culture as well. To be honest, I find quite a bit of the trending New Age "spirituality" to be on the psychotic side. I've met plenty of non-schizo people that think they're psychic, displaced aliens, reincarnated spiritual masters, victims of severely malicious global conspiracy, etc. after being exposed to the New Age culture and it's almost completely delusional, but it's a shared delusion for sure. (Not that psychic powers, aliens, conspiracy, etc. don't exist but you understand what I'm saying.)
Crap, this is going to run off into some tangent about the hypocritic delusions of the New Age culture so I'll end that with, "Culture is not you're friend." Counter-culture not excluded.
Back on topic, your friend might have just had an experience that initiated a dissolution of reality. It can be a tender and strange time, so compassion that doesn't explicitly encourage or condescend the newly revealed, unexplored territory of his mind and reality(or delusions as a psych professional might identify) would be to his benefit while he kind of "rebuilds" things. Hopefully he'll shift to a new center once he finds it and stabilize into a more functional psyche/mindset. This is one of those periods that Anton Wilson would probably regard as highly perceptible to imprint vulnerability. In other words, how he's treated now will play a large role in how he constructs his new reality and his views/feelings toward people in general.
He may be completely aware that he is acting strange but not care one bit as social paradigms are no longer concrete, necessary, or even appropriate. To me, the teddy bear thing actually sounds more along the lines of a social commentary and an expression of loneliness/lack of sincere relationships. Or maybe even the lack of anyone to have the ability or capacity to understand what kind of state he's struggling with. Remember, as annoying and scary as this situation is for you, imagine how much more frightening it would be to be the one going through it. Do your best to treat him the way you would want to be treated in the same situation. Again, don't encourage his delusions, but don't strike them down. It's a bit of an experiment to find what his limits actually are and where the edges of reality actually end.
Good luck man, hope everything works out well for everyone involved.
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This happened to a friend of mine.. I blame myself because he never did ANYTHING before, he must of seen something in his trip to make him freak out, sometimes coming back to reality is harder than leaving it.
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It would appear that as others have stated your friend had an under lying mental disorder that came to surface by the use of psyches. It is hard to say whether or not it would have without them but regardless that is what happened.
He most likely took LSD, it is not some harmless toy that makes the world pretty, it is a highly potent and very powerful compound. It is as likely to cause this as any other psychedelic be it mushrooms or an RC, it does happen with LSD. I hate when people jump to RCs, yes It could have been that but it most likely was acid.
Unfortunately your friend is delusional. There is no easy fix, no additional drugs, even ayahuasca or any other exotic one they will not help and will only make things worse. This is not an issue of prohibition or "hippy brain washing" I know you dismissed that but this is a mental health thing. His brain did this to him an the best course of action is to listen to the professionals. I hope I don't get flamed for this but this is a serious issue and if you or anyone else tries to intervene he may very well leap off a building or walk into traffic if he's having a bad day, it does happen.
You guys sound young, I get this from the amount of friends he had and the way your talking about it. It is not a bad thing that your young you just never encountered this before. The only thing you can do to help is remain a friend. He is likely to lose most of the people he did have as friends, not because they are mean but because they will choose to move on. I hope he gets better but odds are he will deal with his issues forever and will have good and bad days. With all the medical advancements its likely they will find meds to help suppress the delusions, but they many never go away fully. I am very sorry that this happened to him and that you witnessed and will carry this with you forever.
To sum up my beliefs on it:
He took LSD and had an adverse reaction to it, it was not an RC or bad acid, this does happen with all psyches.
He will have to take the meds professionals give him not ones off the street even exotic ones they will only make things worse
He will struggle with delusions for the rest of his life they are manageable with modern care but removing him from the care of doctors may lead to a full relapse and cause him to die by accident.
I am very sorry this happened to him and you as well
He most likely took LSD, it is not some harmless toy that makes the world pretty, it is a highly potent and very powerful compound. It is as likely to cause this as any other psychedelic be it mushrooms or an RC, it does happen with LSD. I hate when people jump to RCs, yes It could have been that but it most likely was acid.
Unfortunately your friend is delusional. There is no easy fix, no additional drugs, even ayahuasca or any other exotic one they will not help and will only make things worse. This is not an issue of prohibition or "hippy brain washing" I know you dismissed that but this is a mental health thing. His brain did this to him an the best course of action is to listen to the professionals. I hope I don't get flamed for this but this is a serious issue and if you or anyone else tries to intervene he may very well leap off a building or walk into traffic if he's having a bad day, it does happen.
You guys sound young, I get this from the amount of friends he had and the way your talking about it. It is not a bad thing that your young you just never encountered this before. The only thing you can do to help is remain a friend. He is likely to lose most of the people he did have as friends, not because they are mean but because they will choose to move on. I hope he gets better but odds are he will deal with his issues forever and will have good and bad days. With all the medical advancements its likely they will find meds to help suppress the delusions, but they many never go away fully. I am very sorry that this happened to him and that you witnessed and will carry this with you forever.
To sum up my beliefs on it:
He took LSD and had an adverse reaction to it, it was not an RC or bad acid, this does happen with all psyches.
He will have to take the meds professionals give him not ones off the street even exotic ones they will only make things worse
He will struggle with delusions for the rest of his life they are manageable with modern care but removing him from the care of doctors may lead to a full relapse and cause him to die by accident.
I am very sorry this happened to him and you as well
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MollyNewb
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you are correct. Everything you said is spot on. Funny thing is he came off the meds for a few days and he started to act real crazy and his father called hte police to take him to the mental hospital. I was out with him this weekend for halloween, it was very depressing to go out with him. He usually is very outgoing etc. but he now is very timid and when he does say something it doesnt make any sense and sounds crazy... He also wore sun glasses to workout at the gym which was very weird...I asked him how he is doing and he says his eyes and ears hurt at times, and he has lots of anxiety now. Also hehas a crazy appetite now and just seems "slow" like his speech and energy levels are slow.
Its been almost 4 months... Im afraid he will be like this forever. He lost his job, and his parents are supporting him right now while he tries to find another job but the way he acts, i dont think anyone will hire him...
Its been almost 4 months... Im afraid he will be like this forever. He lost his job, and his parents are supporting him right now while he tries to find another job but the way he acts, i dont think anyone will hire him...