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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MiPT Thread - Part 1

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Yeah, I don't like 4-ho-met at all neither am I going to try to reach plus four soon, was just curious. I hope this is at least half awesome as people make it :D getting 250mg on monday
edit: and finally some substance made me buy a mg scale
Any advice for rectal dosing?
 
Rectal dosing is a good method, and easy. The dosage is generally about halved from oral, and it comes on faster and smoother. Total during is slightly shorter, but peak and such is about the same length, it just starts and ends faster, which is generally a good thing.

The best method to do it is to dissolve your dose in a couple of mLs of water, and draw it up in an orange syringe. Make sure your bowels are emptied and just lube it up with something and insert. Get on your hands and knees so the liquid isn't trying to escape via gravity's pull. After a minute you can stand up and should have no trouble holding it in. Tryptamines don't feel like anything, it just feels like water. Some phenethylamines burn a bit but I've never experienced any significant pain from it, unlike with nasal dosing of things. For example 2C-B will burn a tiny bit rectally, but nasally it hurts like a motherfucker.

I also have simply used a gel cap, put the dose in, dry, and stuck it up there. The water method works better and faster, but honestly the gel cap method also works fine.
 
Does any of you notices some legs shake / tremors while on 4-HO-MiPT ? I'm aware that 4-ACO/HO-DiPT may brings tremors and shakes but what about the 4-HO-MiPT?

Thank you :)
 
This would be essential info for me too. I had very distubing leg tremors after 4-aco-det that lasted days and it made me never order it again.
 
Hi everyone. It's my first post here.

2 days ago, I accidentally took a MASSIVE dose of this stuff (150 mgs). What happened was that I weighed out this stuff thinking it was the 5 mapb (first foray into weighing rc's myself). After downing it in a gel cap, I realized it was the 4 ho mipt instead when I went to go double check because after 30 minutes, the room started to shift badly and words on the computer became impossible to read (as if there were constant water droplets in a serene pond kind-of-effect, behind the screen). I'll never weigh stuff when I'm stoned again. This was a really frikkin dumb mistake. I've done weed, e too much, meth, 2cp, lsd, amt, and now 5 mapb and 4 ho mipt so I'm kind of experienced.

I'll spare readers a full trip report, but just wanted to inform from my experience that, physically, this compound seems speculatively pretty safe. Mentally, at first I panicked and started wondering if I was going to end up in a hospital. I'm not sure what scale is used to describe trips, but I was hallucinating like crazy and felt like I was a vegetable. I couldn't talk or walk or type, my thoughts would end and begin midway, and 10 minutes felt like hours. I was laying in my room, which felt like another dimension because I could see so many lights, spheres, 3D graphical patterns in the air, people talking left and right and tables and chairs and the inside of a mysterious house, which was inside my room all in one. But after a while (I think around the 1.5 hour mark), everything became enjoyable and even the moose-headed, demon-looking entities in the corners of my vision were making me laugh and feel entertained.

The "peak" lasted about 4 hours, but I slowly came down to sobriety after the 10th hour. During the latter stage was just the usual breathing, waving effect and euphoria I got before (@ 20 mg). So, my question is: is it actually safe to take such a high dose? I feel like it is after that experience, but I'm wondering if it can physically harm the body or not even though I feel totally fine. No hangover, blues, body ache or anything and I actually feel more upbeat and productive. I want to experience this level again at a different time and setting, but not if it's dangerous.

Thanks in advance for any info and sorry for the long post. I've learned a lot by reading intelligent posts on Bluelight so thanks for that too.
 
I tried this 2 days ago. Onset rather shaky for me but it subsided almost completely in one hour. Also what bothers me is pain of prostate still noticable after 2 days. Regardless trip was just awesome, I really liked it. Beautiful compound.
 
Kl519 said:
Hi everyone. It's my first post here.

2 days ago, I accidentally took a MASSIVE dose of this stuff (150 mgs). What happened was that I weighed out this stuff thinking it was the 5 mapb (first foray into weighing rc's myself). After downing it in a gel cap, I realized it was the 4 ho mipt instead when I went to go double check because after 30 minutes, the room started to shift badly and words on the computer became impossible to read (as if there were constant water droplets in a serene pond kind-of-effect, behind the screen). I'll never weigh stuff when I'm stoned again. This was a really frikkin dumb mistake. I've done weed, e too much, meth, 2cp, lsd, amt, and now 5 mapb and 4 ho mipt so I'm kind of experienced.

I'll spare readers a full trip report, but just wanted to inform from my experience that, physically, this compound seems speculatively pretty safe. Mentally, at first I panicked and started wondering if I was going to end up in a hospital. I'm not sure what scale is used to describe trips, but I was hallucinating like crazy and felt like I was a vegetable. I couldn't talk or walk or type, my thoughts would end and begin midway, and 10 minutes felt like hours. I was laying in my room, which felt like another dimension because I could see so many lights, spheres, 3D graphical patterns in the air, people talking left and right and tables and chairs and the inside of a mysterious house, which was inside my room all in one. But after a while (I think around the 1.5 hour mark), everything became enjoyable and even the moose-headed, demon-looking entities in the corners of my vision were making me laugh and feel entertained.

The "peak" lasted about 4 hours, but I slowly came down to sobriety after the 10th hour. During the latter stage was just the usual breathing, waving effect and euphoria I got before (@ 20 mg). So, my question is: is it actually safe to take such a high dose? I feel like it is after that experience, but I'm wondering if it can physically harm the body or not even though I feel totally fine. No hangover, blues, body ache or anything and I actually feel more upbeat and productive. I want to experience this level again at a different time and setting, but not if it's dangerous.

Thanks in advance for any info and sorry for the long post. I've learned a lot by reading intelligent posts on Bluelight so thanks for that too.
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I usually avoid PD these days but I'm still subscribed to this thread and this just came in so I thought I would respond.

I've had some high doses of tryptamines and they rarely feel physically unsafe compared to phenethylamines (some exceptions being 5-MeO-aMT, 5-MeO-DMT, and DPT) but that doesn't make that the case. I seem to remember that 4-HO-MiPT gave me a lot of fluid retention which is a sign of it being problematic on the kidneys or even worse, the heart.

I wouldn't recommend doing such crazy doses of chemicals. The body may live through it once and then you die the next time. I don't really think the high is worth the risk. Nobody will be able to tell you if these doses are safe, they certainly aren't recommended either way though.
 
I have heard of people taking 100mg+ doses and have never heard of adverse physical reactions, to most any of the 4-HO-tryptamines (maybe even all of them, perhaps 4-HO-DPT wouldn't be, who knows). Of course I have heard of adverse mental reactions but that can happen at any dose. I still wouldn't recommend a 150mg dose, just because that seems horribly excessive. Glad you're alright but I'm not surprised about that either.

Also, what's up MK? :)
 
I see. Thanks guys. What would be considered a high, but relatively safe dose? I've read most of this thread, and I think I remember reading that the 50-60 mg range fits the bill. Though I would want more opinions before I do that. I definitely do not want to take a dose that ends up doing some damage (made that mistake with mdma already). As much as I would like to repeat the experience, the risk of serious injury will put a lid on that.

What about frequency? At most, I plan to take this once a month but since I don't know much about chem, I'm wondering if that's too much too.
 
4 sub tryptamines are some of the safest drugs there are. Once a month is a good frequency, & 50-60mgs sounds good for a nice strong trip.
 
Kl519 said:
I see. Thanks guys. What would be considered a high, but relatively safe dose? I've read most of this thread, and I think I remember reading that the 50-60 mg range fits the bill. Though I would want more opinions before I do that. I definitely do not want to take a dose that ends up doing some damage (made that mistake with mdma already). As much as I would like to repeat the experience, the risk of serious injury will put a lid on that.

What about frequency? At most, I plan to take this once a month but since I don't know much about chem, I'm wondering if that's too much too.
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I suggest using between 12 to 20mg as starting dosage, and increase it on next trials.

tryptamine-tripper said:
4 sub tryptamines are some of the safest drugs there are. Once a month is a good frequency, & 50-60mgs sounds good for a nice strong trip.
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Please, never forget: Research Chemicals don't have a long story of usage in humans, you are subject to idiopathic reactions/new unknown reactions even with very low dosages. Also, if you mix other substances with RC's, make sure you really understand what you are doing, since it can result on unpredictable and sad events.
 
Anyone has idea about dosing miprocin with 25i? And guys did notice prostate pain after using 4 ho mipt? I still feel it the same 48h after and I highly doubt its unrelated.my dose was 38mg
 
mind-explorer said:
Anyone has idea about dosing miprocin with 25i? And guys did notice prostate pain after using 4 ho mipt? I still feel it the same 48h after and I highly doubt its unrelated.my dose was 38mg
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mind-explorer: It is not recommended to mix other substances with not-long-history RCs, and even more specially, speaking about the NBOMEs. Please check this thread for more information: http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/724566-Important-NBOMe-warning-Taking-unknown-blotters-sold-as-LSD-e-g-at-a-festival

At the other side, if I am in your position, I would try to go to the doctor and try to get an examination asap. 4-HO-MIPT is a research chemical and can lead to unpredictable results. I really see strange that the Prostate is related to that? but in order to be safe, definitively, the best recommendation is to go to a doctor.
 
mind-explorer said:
Anyone has idea about dosing miprocin with 25i? And guys did notice prostate pain after using 4 ho mipt? I still feel it the same 48h after and I highly doubt its unrelated.my dose was 38mg
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I didn't feel any pain anywhere, but I did have to urinate more than usual during the trip. I drank a couple 12 oz bottles of water though because I realized around the 4th hour my palms were drenched with sweat. I second that you should ask a doctor because it could be something else. But you should be fine, especially if you go see a doc because they can prescribe you stuff that'll help or diagnose you properly. It could be nothing too, but better to know than not know.

I haven't had 25i (is that 2ci?) yet, so I can't help with that. But I found miprocin more than enough by itself, albeit at a really high dose and at the tail end of an mj high. After getting advices though, I doubt I'll go that high again, which I never meant to in the first place. I'll probably start at 40mg and work it up from there.

Then again, if you're getting prostate pain off of it, I would hold off or at least take a smaller dose weeks later to see if it was the miprocin giving you that pain. Take care.

Btw, thanks to all those for replying. Bluelight is the shit!
 
Thank you for replies. My prostate is okay now, that was pretty weird lol. I think it was because of brutal erotic stimulatiom that miprocin gives me. Also, going to dose just miprocin today to stay safe.
 
Glad you're feeling good now. :) I get weird prostate stuff from many stimulants, not pain so much as difficulty urinating and other unpleasant effects. Never from a tryptamine though.

Also, 25i isn't 2C-I, it's 25i-NBOMe.
 
I'm on 10 - 13mg +/- 4-HO-MiPT fumarate right now. This is clearly a strong stuff, jeez. Anyway I'm happy this chem don't give me any legs tremors but a pretty nice euphoria in my belly <3

I don't find it to be very mindfucky but the visuals are incredible <3

How long does 4-HO-MiPT last? I took it 40 minutes ago on empty stomach (oral)

Thank you have wish a blast to everyone today %)
 
From what I know about four hours, really hoping to try this one in the future.
 
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