• 🇬🇧󠁿 🇸🇪 🇿🇦 🇮🇪 🇬🇭 🇩🇪 🇪🇺
    European & African
    Drug Discussion

    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • EADD Moderators: axe battler | Pissed_and_messed

The EADD Kratom Thread v1. Chew those leaves? Bleugh!

Yeah, you'll be good to go alright! A day off gives you the perfect opportunity to relax and appreciate it too. :)

I only really get any nausea from it if I take my lithium before the kratom wears off, but then again I smoke enough weed to counteract it, so it's best to be cautious.

Which method of ingestion do you plan on using?
 
Postie been soooooooooo excited and it turned out to be 27inch hair extensions bought while pissed the other day! Dis a fuckin pointed!

I plan Sammy to try and chew it as per Kenny's advice however if not and if I don't fall asleep again half way through vid a version of this :X

Kratom girl clicka 'ere
 
Blimey, 27" hair extensions? 8o

You're a braver woman than I, what with chewing the stuff, but if you can handle it then go for it! I use the yoghurt method like a real pussy.

Fingers crossed it arrives tomorrow!
 
The yoghurt method is perfectly effective though the sublingual thing may work better for kenny. Kratom feels like sand or something, i did try just taking dry teaspoons of it but it just dries your mouth up as it absorbs all the moisture. It doesnt work at all if you make kratom tea IME.

The chewing method is probably better if you can get hold of big unprocessed fresh leaves. I think that's what the kratom farmers in Borneo and Thailand chew on as they toil away.

It works far better in cheap Aldi yoghurts than expensive branded thicker/heavier/creamier yoghurts, i think the thicker yoghurts impede absoprption but the thinner ones seems to boost it somehow.
 
Well I'm back on this stuff :/ Ibogaine gave me a wonderful opportunity to step off, and step off I did for two weeks.....the Ibogaine worked spectacularly for the opioid aspect of withdrawals, but no so much for the secondary weird antidepressant style WD's.....if I would have been more determined I think I could have made it....but being able to drive down the way and by some on a whim on a bad day set me off, and now I'm 3 days back in.....tried this morning to go without, but was In Surprisingly nasty WD's when I woke up and folded again at noon.....shucks. Will try again this weekend with loperamide, get stabilized and take it from there...

Oh well. There are far worse things to be hooked on! Just trying to be not hooked on anything.....sounds more interesting than 20 odd years of dependance on something, always something....we'll see :)
 
Its so easy to slip back into using the stuff isnt it. You warned me about the dangers of using it for too long, i was able to heed your own excellent advice and stopped using it within a month, before it starting affecting all the different receptors and brain regulation functions too much. It's been a couple of weeks off, and then a couple of weeks back on again. Much like nicotine really at this stage, i reckon its just about timing and picking a day to stop again soon.

I also have a shop that sells it situated all too closely so dont just have to guard against internet impulse buys. It's a subtle substance really isnt it, it kind of helps you get through the days with the kratom energy and moodlift working away quitely in the background. It doesnt do that much in and of itself, but it helps get other things done with more energy and in better spirits than it might be otherwise.

The fucking constipation is a beast of a problem with it though. Ive been taking 3-5 teaspoons of various strains per day, and am getting really quite backed up with it. The problem has been as bad, if not even worse than it was on poppy pods. Didnt have no such problems with bupe. Even Milk of Magnesia which was the previous godsend cure-all isnt quite sufficient to get things moving easily. Maybe this problem, more than anything else will give me an incentive to stop soon, within the next few days. I've resisted making big orders this time, but thats not really helping when i just keep re-ordering small orders all the time anyway.
 
Last edited:
Constipation? I've never had that problem.

I've been using it pretty much daily for over a month too.
 
Props for maintaining some self control MDB! And yes, it's subtle effects are part of it's glory. Weird, I never get constipated from it...due to all that indigestible fiber I get nice smooth bulky green shits :D
 
This is sounding like it must just be my digestive system that cant cope with it/doesnt agree with me. This could be a blessing in disguise that kind of physically enforces me to stop habitually taking it on a dayly basis (all the time).
 
mydrugbuddy said:
How much are you taking ? (if you dont mind me asking)
Click to expand...

I don't mind at all, no!

I'm taking two tablespoons when I come home of an evening. I don't really have much need (or time) for redosing.

Didn't take any last night and I must admit to feeling fairly rattly once I lay down in bed. Couldn't get comfortable, felt hot and then felt cold, aching bones, runny nose etc. Though I drifted off to sleep easily enough and felt okay this morning.
 
Yeah im feeling slightly rattly in the mornings for the first 40 minutes or so until the first dose kicks in. I dare say it will be managable when it comes to time to stop.
 
So stopping the kratom again today after 1 month on, 11 days off, 18 days back on. Slept in late very deliberately. Was gonna stop the ecigs again at the same time, but i think that stopping both on the same day is a slightly big ask. Gonna use the nicotine stimulation for at least a little longer. Physically i dont feel ill which is an enexpected bonus, just a bit lethargic. I know from stopping last time that it wont be too bad for too long mentally either, it just takes a few days for the brain to revert to a more natural equilibrium.
 
Right-O MDB! Keep us posted. My goal was to stop today, but misc farm shite that needed a doing provided a good excuse for another day...ha. Tmrw, tmrw...I use lope, and the first day on lope is kinda nasty, so Sunday will be a good day for it. Got loads of Gabapentin and will use phenibut sparingly, as that stuff is a royal bitch to get hooked on. Low dose MXE maybe, it's a good distraction, helps some aspects fabulously, but makes others worse for me. But the ace in the hole is exercise....it sounds like the absolute worst idea ever at the time, but have discovered recently the miracle of getting off your ass and getting the endorphins flowing....
 
Last time i tried stopping it was a few days before i felt up to exercise, might try to push that a bit sooner this time, like today. It definately helped last time, just brisk walking for 45 minutes or something really helped.

Going to have some valerian root tea and then going for a walk with my mp3 player. Some sunshine would be nice but it doesnt look likely anytime soon. The northern half of the country is missing out these last few days whilst the southern half is basking in sunshine, jammy bastards.
 
Last edited:
I just posted this in the OD forum megathread but always nice to touch base with fellow EADDers.

...

I've seen mention of Kratom around for a long time but have yet to get around to trying some despite having tried copious amounts of other drugs.

I've picked up some Red Borneo Kratom Powder. It was hard to know which to go for but this one seemed to be described as quite relaxing in various trip experiences on other websites & I noticed the vendor said in a blog post that it was grown on a private reserve.

I am thinking that 3g would probably be a good starting place? I have zero tolerances to opiates. I assume it's not enhanced (added extract) since it is not mentioned but is most likely what Erowid calls "premium" or "super" grade.

I assume that putting it in capsules & consuming on an empty stomach would be best? I don't see how that would be any different to what I've seen referred to as "toss and wash".

I'm quite excited at the prospect of finding something that I can use for a quiet evening once in a while. I quite like using Codeine/DHC for this purpose but these days I can't be bothered with CWEs etc.
 
i find it goes ideal with thin youghurts, ie not overly thick and creamy ones. The thin yoghurts seem to help absorption, and works far better than T & W, or tea, which not only tastes vile (so vile you will heave) but seems completely innefective. Kratom is perfectly palatable and not heave inducing when mixed into youghurts. Not sure about measurments in grams, but one heaped teaspoonsfull would probably be a good starting point. Will work best if you have an empty stomach, try to leave it altealst 3-4 hours after your last meal if possible. You've picked what is meant to be one of the best strains, i suggest you get your headphones on, as it does amazing things for music on the first few doses. If you have leaves apparently you can chew the fuck out of the leaves for good absorption that way too, as some gets absorbed sublingually too.
 
Cheers guys. I don't have it yet... just ordered. Will next week before I actually get it but something to look forward to.

Kratom Yoghurt ... sounds amazing! I think some Greek Yoghurt & a little honey would be my preference. :D
 
How often do you guys use Kratom?

I spotted you said you needed to take a break MDB. What about you bob?

I was thinking perhaps just once a week if it goes well, would that develop much tolerance over the long run?
 
once a week should be fine. I know of one member who succesfully sticks to that schedule. For the past few months Ive been using it haphazardly and randomly, kind of one month on, 10 days off, 20 days on, 10 days off, i think im about 2 weeks 'on' currently. I dont really want to be carrying on like this for much longer, whilst stopping kratom after relatively short stints is far from brutal, it takes me a good 10 days until i feel fully alright mentally (by my own standards) again.

The physical w/ds are neglible, and miniscule, weird cold buzz on the back of my shoulders and some days can feel drained and severeley lacking in motivation. At least its warmer now, was allways freezing cold on non kratom days before and could never warm up. But from what i gather Kratom is relatively forgiving if you dont use too much for too long. Some people use huge amounts of super strength extracts for years, and the w/ds they get seem to be in a different league, as kratom affects a number of different brain functions and receptors; Adrenal, opiate, and also has SNRI properties.

I think the adrenal effect is the strongest, you can really feel it in stimulating strains like red vein thai, and if you miss a nights sleep then red vein thai will comfortably and easily see you through the next day, but when you stop taking it your energy levels can be very low for a while, and the brain and body takes time to re-adjust. The longer you take it for the more 'out of whack' all these brain functions and receptors can become and the longer it takes them to re-adjust back to normal.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top