I think the "store them in the freezer or they lose potency" was an urban myth. I've had some in the freezer and some at household temperature - no difference since the first batch - is that 12 months or so? I think it's at least as stable as LSD.
The Big & Dandy AL-LAD Thread - Part 1
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I think the "store them in the freezer or they lose potency" was an urban myth. I've had some in the freezer and some at household temperature - no difference since the first batch - is that 12 months or so? I think it's at least as stable as LSD.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSM-775 Solipsis?
I think i saw that this group (responsible for AL-LAD and LSZ) had tried LSM but decided it wasn't that good and went with LSZ instead. I don't know any other details and this could be speculation but i do remember reading that.
I think i saw that this group (responsible for AL-LAD and LSZ) had tried LSM but decided it wasn't that good and went with LSZ instead. I don't know any other details and this could be speculation but i do remember reading that.
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Yes^.
Oh, interesting! Maybe they should have tried allyl-nor-LSM / AL-LSM
Anyway I tried AL-LAD yesterday and liked it, 190 ug taken at about 10:30 a.m. - did get tremors and a general body load but at the same time the feeling as if it was a relatively clean experience. That may have something to do with the lucidity, less intoxication than with LSD. All in good humor, it felt smooth, gracious, gentle.. I didn't get as strong visuals as I have read from others but still fairly decent.
Oh, interesting! Maybe they should have tried allyl-nor-LSM / AL-LSM
Anyway I tried AL-LAD yesterday and liked it, 190 ug taken at about 10:30 a.m. - did get tremors and a general body load but at the same time the feeling as if it was a relatively clean experience. That may have something to do with the lucidity, less intoxication than with LSD. All in good humor, it felt smooth, gracious, gentle.. I didn't get as strong visuals as I have read from others but still fairly decent.
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If it isn't impertinent, how did you measure 190ug Sol?
A 225ug dose would've brought slightly more in the visual department, & might counteract whatever minimal body load that's present. I've had trips on this stuff that were completely clean, totally free of any sort of body effect or negativity of any kind, neither physical nor mental. But on other occassions the drug has proven tricky to handle, most specifically in crowded enviroments, but also when my head wasn't set straight enough for tripping.
I'd up the dose to maybe a wee bit a see where you go from there
A 225ug dose would've brought slightly more in the visual department, & might counteract whatever minimal body load that's present. I've had trips on this stuff that were completely clean, totally free of any sort of body effect or negativity of any kind, neither physical nor mental. But on other occassions the drug has proven tricky to handle, most specifically in crowded enviroments, but also when my head wasn't set straight enough for tripping.
I'd up the dose to maybe a wee bit a see where you go from there
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I should have said approximately 190 ug. Cut 150 ug blotters with scissors and rounded the number. Considering the error margin probably is not bigger than the kinda unknown margin from product degradation there should be no significance issues with the rounded number.
And yes I would probably dose higher next time, depending on the intended goal of the trip that is. I am overjoyed I am off mirtazapine allowing me to trip again, if only because psychedelics have true therapeutic value for me - a periodical trip pushes my reset button and syncs my emotions and thoughts and allows me to let go of pointless baggage.... no large doses are required for this, in fact they would mostly risk complicating things. Then again low-dosing AL-LAD would probably be wasteful, OTOH my AL-LAD trip was able to fulfill the purpose I just explained while 2 g mushrooms about 6 days ago was not, not really at least.
^^ More tricky to handle than LSD by the way, or about the same?
And yes I would probably dose higher next time, depending on the intended goal of the trip that is. I am overjoyed I am off mirtazapine allowing me to trip again, if only because psychedelics have true therapeutic value for me - a periodical trip pushes my reset button and syncs my emotions and thoughts and allows me to let go of pointless baggage.... no large doses are required for this, in fact they would mostly risk complicating things. Then again low-dosing AL-LAD would probably be wasteful, OTOH my AL-LAD trip was able to fulfill the purpose I just explained while 2 g mushrooms about 6 days ago was not, not really at least.
^^ More tricky to handle than LSD by the way, or about the same?
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I guess if Sol is only recently able to trip again, it might awhile before LSz gets tested...
I wasn't suggesting for a moment that low dose Al-Lad is a waste of product, it most certainly isn't. Although it is extremely gentle & a long time coming, even a quarter of a 150ug tab brought threshold effects that made working on psychedelic trance in the studio highly enjoyable. Incidentally, I've worked on various doses of both Al-Lad & LSz & they both brought similar results. Higher doses & it gets a little too confusing to operate complicated equipment, but if some skeletal work is already done on a track, it's pretty good fun just adding synth riffs over the top or arranging a piece, & then doing all the trickier production work at a later date... sober obviously.
If you wanna trip properly then sure you're gonna need to find the dose that suits you, but if you're engaged in some entertaining activity, drumming circle, DJ sesh, art of some sort, then low doses complement the creative mindset beautifully. I'm working on some more music today, & if it wasn't already nearly 16:00, I'd consider a studio dose today... I think I'll call a low dose a "studio" dose, like Sasha's "museum" dose...
I wasn't suggesting for a moment that low dose Al-Lad is a waste of product, it most certainly isn't. Although it is extremely gentle & a long time coming, even a quarter of a 150ug tab brought threshold effects that made working on psychedelic trance in the studio highly enjoyable. Incidentally, I've worked on various doses of both Al-Lad & LSz & they both brought similar results. Higher doses & it gets a little too confusing to operate complicated equipment, but if some skeletal work is already done on a track, it's pretty good fun just adding synth riffs over the top or arranging a piece, & then doing all the trickier production work at a later date... sober obviously.
If you wanna trip properly then sure you're gonna need to find the dose that suits you, but if you're engaged in some entertaining activity, drumming circle, DJ sesh, art of some sort, then low doses complement the creative mindset beautifully. I'm working on some more music today, & if it wasn't already nearly 16:00, I'd consider a studio dose today... I think I'll call a low dose a "studio" dose, like Sasha's "museum" dose...
Museum doses can be extremely useful indeed. For a more manageable therapeutic introspection (helping yourself), expressing yourself with boosted creativity (making music and other art) or perceiving other people's creativity with boosted perception (the museum tour, attending a concert, etc). As far as crowds are concerned, I find AL-LAD much more manageable than say LSD. Of course there's always that line you can cross where pretty much any substance can become tricky.
Just into another phase of my exploration of al-lad, it's an incredible drug. Has anyone been able to access any feelings of sadness or cry through al-lad? Whereas with psilocybin you can reach real sadness and cathartic feelings, I find any connection to the depths of sadness while on al-lad isn't really possible. It's just total sunshine. Must be one of the greatest anti-depressants ever regardless of it's psychedelic effects.
Al-lad is a hidden golden side of the lysergic rainbow.
Al-lad is a hidden golden side of the lysergic rainbow.
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Very intriguing Ismene, I have only limited experience but the closest I got was not really true sadness, I did acknowledge my own hardships and difficulties though, and during the peak I had to concede that while the trip was ultimately bright and lighthearted, it still was not to be taken lightly. It deserved appreciation rather than submissive respect.
Whether AL-LAD is or is not deeply optimistic, 4-HO-MET is for me. And I've read about others saying the same. Even above 40 mg of that with a hardcore weed high with zero cannabis tolerance, it had me swimming in creative artistic hallucinations but it was wholly good, IMO it would be hard to go bad on it. I must revisit!!
Whether AL-LAD is or is not deeply optimistic, 4-HO-MET is for me. And I've read about others saying the same. Even above 40 mg of that with a hardcore weed high with zero cannabis tolerance, it had me swimming in creative artistic hallucinations but it was wholly good, IMO it would be hard to go bad on it. I must revisit!!
Funny you should say that Solipsis... 4-HO-MET is usually very, very good - and purely recreational - to me (a treat, really), but about 10 days ago I had trouble not to go bad on it. It turned into a very serious trip without any euphoria whatsoever. I could bend it towards a sort of a spiritual trip that eventually became useful.
I find it easier to find negativism on 4-HO-MET than on AL-LAD, so far, it seems (over a range of trips and mindsets); I feel AL-LAD is more manageable, joyful and forgiving. I must revisit some time soon as well. %)
I find it easier to find negativism on 4-HO-MET than on AL-LAD, so far, it seems (over a range of trips and mindsets); I feel AL-LAD is more manageable, joyful and forgiving. I must revisit some time soon as well. %)
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So I've been away from BL for a few months, and now that i'm back I have been hearing a lot about various LSD analogues. I'm familiar with the effects of AL-LAD, and for the most part understand LSZ. But in regard to substances like LSH, LSB, LSC, and various XXX-LAD's, are any of them as special as LSD or AL-LAD? Or is AL-LAD the preferred analogue by people who are researching right now?
I have to post this here because I can't really tell anyone else - got very lucky, my partner is storing our AL-LAD in his fridge, and his landlord replaced the fridge without notice while we were away this weekend. Came home to a mess and found it was missing. I dug through the trash and found it there unopened.
Who throws away stuff out of their tenants' refrigerators? Fuck those guys. Left mud all over the floor and ripped some of his photos, too.
Who throws away stuff out of their tenants' refrigerators? Fuck those guys. Left mud all over the floor and ripped some of his photos, too.
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tasha_yar that's a hilarious story. You should dump that landlord. I would never do that to my tennants.
Ismene that sounds amazing, I can't wait to try. Have the effects remained fairly constant in strength over these weeks, or is tolerance building up? Any comments vs. LSZ and vs. LSD?
Ismene that sounds amazing, I can't wait to try. Have the effects remained fairly constant in strength over these weeks, or is tolerance building up? Any comments vs. LSZ and vs. LSD?
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Oh boy oh boy oh boy...tonight is definitely the night to try this material...I just hope my home is empty... I only have 5 tabs ...I'd like to dose 2 tonight and save the others for a combo with 2ce (another material I'm waiting to try for first time) I think these have the potential for a nice combo can anybody attest? Does al lad have ah higher affinity than 2ce as is the case for lsd combos with 2ce??
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Good to hear the compound is proving useful in difficult circumstances, but sorry to hear about the difficult circumstances Is
A friend of mine has been considering a strong trip on Al in order to address some emotional issues & at first I may have discouraged him a little. I'm beginning to reappraise this fascinating compound!
Havn't noticed any tolerance at all - taken it every saturday for about 3 weeks. In fact I was thinking of dropping the dose a little because it gets a little overpowering which isn't quite as nice as the lower dose physically. At 150mics it's sheer happiness and physical ecstasy. I upped the dose to 225mics and it's a lot more psychedelic but not as pleasant physically. You can feel overwhelmed at times. Still magical tho. I was going to drop it down to about 200 (not sure how accurate I would be - I'm just going to cut a smaller peice off the second blotter). Something I'd really like to try out in nature on a sunny day.
Only tried LSZ once so I can't really offer up a definitive answer but I wasn't as impressed as the al-lad. LSZ seemed a lot more serious whereas al-lad is being stood under a waterfall of colour and sheer euphoria.
I don't know whether I address the issues tho - it's more like a few hours of euphoria and feeling like life is worth living no matter what. On mushrooms there'd be the laughter but at some point you'd start thinking deeply and end up crying like a baby. On al-lad there's none of the crying - it's just a break from sadness for 6 or 7 hours. Definately recomend your mate gave it a go but I don't know how deep he'll be able to go apart from thinking "I feel absolutely great"!
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