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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine Mega Thread and FAQ v17.0 + v18.0

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So someone owed me some oxy OPs, I ended up taking them last night and I definitely got high!! I'm not sure how since I had taken my 16 mg bupe about 10 hrs prior... I'm guessing my tolerance has gone down since even before I got on the bupe I wasn't getting high too much. I took my bupe this afternoon, about 16 hrs after the oxys, and no PWDs :) but honestly it still wasn't really worth it, I should have tried harder to get them to just give me cash. I think I'm content to stay on my bupe for a while, I feel a lot better now that I've taken today's dose.
 
I will echo what I have heard and experienced to be true about bupe. It is an extremely potent partial agonist/antagonist which has a long half life and behaves unlike your typical opiate drug.

Opiate naive users or "virgin" users to opiate drugs can get VERY high from bupe at doses of less than 1MG, sublingually. I have gotten high years ago on bupe when I was a n00b.

Opiate users who have anything akin to a heroin habit or a very bad prescription pill habit will not get high/feel any obvious effects from any dose of bupe. I have found this to be true for the most part. I do feel my dose, but not so much. For the most part, bupe will just eliminate physical equation of opiate addiction. All that is left is mental cravings, not the physical ones.

Doses for me ,around 2mg is pretty much what will hold me to the point where I do feel that most of it is "gone" or nearly completely digested and metabolized out in 24 hours. I feel sick in the morning when I wake up still slightly. I don't have it if I take a bigger dose, around 4MG.

Keeping doses around 2mg does allow me to feel my dose more, and get an energetic opiate feeling that is subtle but definitely there for me on 2mg daily.

Going to something like 4mg daily for me, just sorta makes me feel flat... all the time, i dont feel the dose one way or another. I'm not sick, but I don't get the energetic high motivating feel that I can get out of bupe.
 
Everyone's different. When I was trying to nitrate my dose down and to jump at a low enough dose I would struggle at each dosage drop. Eventually what worked for me was to force myself to go into withdrawal at each drop and re-induct(if that'saword).this sounds worse than it was and I'm at the two month mark. Drug free, A'int that a motherf'r.
 
Congratulations Bukweat! I got off Sub last April. And I agree Diesel..sub made me feel "flat" in general, but the lower i got on my taper the more it felt like a full agonist...be it a lousy one.
 
LSD... That's right. I use 12 mg because I don't/can't put up with the psychological cravings. But yes 2-4 mg will hold of the physical cravings n if that is working for you - that's great. Yes novice opiate users would get high off bupe but may be very dangerous for them too if they've no experience of opiates.

It's good that you've done your research on suboxone before using. A lot don't cause of desparation or whatever n then have a nasty surprise. It's always important to do research on a drug before using it, in my opinion.

I wish you all the success with your recovery.
Evey
 
I will say that for all the fuss, getting on bupe sure beats going to that Methadone clinic i was at from mid 2012 to mid 2013, man... what a bureaucratic mess
 
Ziggy stardust said:
Congratulations Bukweat! I got off Sub last April. And I agree Diesel..sub made me feel "flat" in general, but the lower i got on my taper the more it felt like a full agonist...be it a lousy one.
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Those are pretty much my feelings. It wasn't until I was completely off of suboxone that I realized how much it had been numbing me. When I got on it again years later for a shorter taper I was getting racing thoughts from it and it was just not a pleasant experience, so from here on out I would never use it for more than 2 weeks, which I will hopefully never need to do again since I hope to never get strung out again. I go so hard on myself whenever I become dependent on opiates so being on suboxone still made me feel bad about being dependent so I just wanted off of it and that's also what made me not like it.
 
Tommyboy said:
Those are pretty much my feelings. It wasn't until I was completely off of suboxone that I realized how much it had been numbing me. When I got on it again years later for a shorter taper I was getting racing thoughts from it and it was just not a pleasant experience, so from here on out I would never use it for more than 2 weeks, which I will hopefully never need to do again since I hope to never get strung out again. I go so hard on myself whenever I become dependent on opiates so being on suboxone still made me feel bad about being dependent so I just wanted off of it and that's also what made me not like it.
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Tommyboy it came down to not wanting to be dependent on any substance to finally throw off the yoke of
Suboxone.
 
I've asked this in EADD but I'll ask here as it's about suboxone. Does anyone feel more confident on suboxone? I mean I am really socially awkward n shy but now I'm loud n find myself talking for hours. I usually HATE conflict of any sort n avoid it at all costs but yesterday I had a row with a man n called him a fucking stupid bastard ( sorry for language) n shouted at him. I WOULDNT DARE do that normally no way. And yesterday my mam said I was talking loud. Plus I've one hell of a great memory but I've been forgetting things like I'll say something n an hour later will mention the same thing n forget I've asked it. Plus I've NO patience for anyone - i'm usually impatient but lately I'm worse. Is this normal for suboxone????
 
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It's normal for suboxone to be a bit stimulating. A lot of people report it makes them a little extra talkative and whatnot. I mean, if you're getting into fights and shit.. hah, I don't know that that's a good thing or normal, but some being a little extra simulated is normal.
 
ive been of subs for a week now and have been taking lope,with really no WDs at all...

when i stop the lope though i feel them come on..
am i just delaying the inevitable ?
 
DrinksWithEvil said:
ive been of subs for a week now and have been taking lope,with really no WDs at all...

when i stop the lope though i feel them come on..
am i just delaying the inevitable ?
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Maybe, how much lope are you taking? How much Suboxone were you taking? You could taper the lope down, but if your taking like a whole bottle at a time to avoid w/d then its probably better to taper with Subs.

Also go Pats! Tough loss but to even get there with half the defense down and Gronkowski out is pretty impressive. It'd be nice if they can stay healthy for a full season sometime and maybe get another Super Bowl soon.
 
RTrain said:
Maybe, how much lope are you taking? How much Suboxone were you taking? You could taper the lope down, but if your taking like a whole bottle at a time to avoid w/d then its probably better to taper with Subs.

Also go Pats! Tough loss but to even get there with half the defense down and Gronkowski out is pretty impressive. It'd be nice if they can stay healthy for a full season sometime and maybe get another Super Bowl soon.
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i tapered down from 4mg IV to .25 in about 2 months

i take like 18 lopes a day

maybe im already getting lope WDs, but i did take kratom for two days

also the patriots avi is for a bet i lost" i said if the chargers dont make it to the superbowl ill wear a pats avi,until the superbowl." with alaisdrm in sports and gaming forums.

but i was hoping they would beat the donkeys

@ziggy ya its nice here. not to bad of a place to WD
 
When I jumped off .25mg sub and 20 lope pills (40mg) would stop the WD cold. But I couldn't take them more than a couple days because they clogged up the plumbing and made me feel worse. As far as delaying the inevitable...I think it does. There's just some pain you have to go thru with opiate WD. I used a little ground leaf Kratom (no extracts!) to help..or maybe use Kava, it's good in your part of the world.
 
Thanks, Mr.scag. I'm hoping it was a one off moment n not the subs. It 's totally out of character for me to swear in real life let alone shout at someone like that. He was disrespectful but I feel ashamed that I lost my temper. I don't know whether its a good or bad thing how I am on subs - it's kind of how I was when on high amounts of codeine - I'd be talking 9 to the dozen n things would just shoot from my mouth unexpectedly. Part of me thinks it's good because I'm not quiet n nervous anymore.

When I come off subs (not for a LONG time if I have my way) will I go back to being a nervy thing whos scared of my own shadow n wont say boo to a ghost or stay this loud talkative , confident person?

Apart from withdrawals what's it like coming off suboxone ????

Evey xxxx
 
Oh man...I posted this in another thread...

I went back home for just a few days last week...I flew home to pick up a car and drive it back out to "cow country" where I live...not really "cow country", but definitely a city with more meth/crack than anything else for hard drugs....If you're into meth, Nebraska/Iowa is a fucking paradise! It's cheap and easy as hell to score by the 8 ball...

I shot dope for the dreaded "3 days in a row" when I was home....4 bags of the dope I did cut through 4mgs a day of bupe like it wasn't even there...

I waited until I was starting to get sick and then dosed 2mgs. This was on the road driving....It was almost a full 72 hours ago and I feel better, but still pretty weak and shitty!

Strange drug, bupe is strong, but the ceiling effect of bupe is nowhere near what some good IV heroin will do to you! Normally I wouldn't care, and I'd just deal with it...but I feel guilty for not just staying away....Even when I'm mildly sick, I feel like I cant get anything done, it just sucks!

The only way I can relapse while on Sub without having to go through a little mini WD all over again is to only do it as a one shot deal....It's just not worth it for me...I have better things to do with my time and money than heroin these days...
 
Well...lesson learned. Three days of about any opiate will guarantee me a "mini WD" these days. It's just not worth it anymore.
It's interesting about the reported "ceiling" of sub. I've heard 4mg (which seems kinda low) and 12mg (which seems high)...it's probably someplace in the middle.
 
Ziggy stardust said:
When I jumped off .25mg sub and 20 lope pills (40mg) would stop the WD cold. But I couldn't take them more than a couple days because they clogged up the plumbing and made me feel worse. As far as delaying the inevitable...I think it does. There's just some pain you have to go thru with opiate WD. I used a little ground leaf Kratom (no extracts!) to help..or maybe use Kava, it's good in your part of the world.
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FUCK i though i found a cure to WDs. im such a pussy when it comes to WDs,it sucks because i use it as an excuse to get high, ya i bought that FST tincure kratom liquid , downed it all in 24 hours

about the lop i havent shit it a week now. its crazy i can still be hungry. plus i drink alot
 
BlueHues said:
Oh man...I posted this in another thread...

I went back home for just a few days last week...I flew home to pick up a car and drive it back out to "cow country" where I live...not really "cow country", but definitely a city with more meth/crack than anything else for hard drugs....If you're into meth, Nebraska/Iowa is a fucking paradise! It's cheap and easy as hell to score by the 8 ball...

I shot dope for the dreaded "3 days in a row" when I was home....4 bags of the dope I did cut through 4mgs a day of bupe like it wasn't even there...

I waited until I was starting to get sick and then dosed 2mgs. This was on the road driving....It was almost a full 72 hours ago and I feel better, but still pretty weak and shitty!

Strange drug, bupe is strong, but the ceiling effect of bupe is nowhere near what some good IV heroin will do to you! Normally I wouldn't care, and I'd just deal with it...but I feel guilty for not just staying away....Even when I'm mildly sick, I feel like I cant get anything done, it just sucks!

The only way I can relapse while on Sub without having to go through a little mini WD all over again is to only do it as a one shot deal....It's just not worth it for me...I have better things to do with my time and money than heroin these days...
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We all slip up. Don't worry about it. You're back off it now that 's what counts x
 
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