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Tryptamines did hippies take shrooms?

I enjoy mushroom hunting a lot....My girlfriend and I started doing it as a hobby 5 or so years ago. there's a lot of edible varieties of mushrooms that are incredibly delicious and easy to identify in the field through physical observation alone....Oyster mushrooms, king Boletes(porcini), chanterelles, morels etc....Those there are some of the most popular and sought after edibles...Hunting them is a lot of fun...they occur in different regions in different seasons and the window for finding them in any given year can be small....

Psychedelic mushrooms are the same....but a lot of the more common psychedelic mushrooms don't have really clear indicators as to what they are at first glance....Most varieties of psilocybin mushrooms do stain blue when you break them or smush them, some don't....Some poisonous varieties stain blue as well...but there are certain cases where you can use the "blue test" to distinguish them from non psychedelic varieties...

there's a lot of "little brown mushrooms" out there that all look the same at first glance, but something like "liberty caps" which are just one of the varieties in the PNW are easy to identify, and they stain blue....

There's a lot of mushrooms that aren't deadly but will make you vomit and fall ill if you eat them...there's even more than taste like shit but will essentially do nothing, and there's some deadly ones out there...but the great majority of mushrooms aren't deadly or poisonous...

One of the most common varieties of deadly ones in North America is called "angel death Caps"....they're bright white and have very distinguishing characteristics that make them easy to identify...they grow everywhere though! It's almost too bad that they're not psychedelic or edible because they are so easy to find!!

There are some varieties of deadly mushrooms and psychedelics that very closely resemble psychedelic and edible varieties, but I just avoid the varieties that are hard to identify and go with the easier ones, which is most of them....

Some of them are so hard to tell apart you need to do a "spore print", which is where you take a sample cap and make it give off spores and analyze them with a magnification device....Like I said, if it comes to that I just wont bother with them...

All it takes it some basic knowledge and a good book with illustrations and descriptions, which I lost my mushroom books, damn!

Once you do start hunting mushrooms, you realize just how many of them there are out there!
 
Fresh mushrooms are still legal in a few US states...It's the dried packaged ones that get you into trouble...you can't arrest every farmer that has them growing on his farm....Although a lot of cow-fields are treated to prevent them from popping up....Ocala, Florida is the like the mushroom capital of south...the whole gulf coast area really....Suprisingly, not that many people go out of there way to look for them, but you'd have a lot of trouble trying to sell psilocybin mushrooms in those areas....

Any scant documentation you can dredge up about people taking or not taking mushrooms in '60s really doesn't prove all that much....the psychedelic revolution of the '60s was a massive worldwide phenomenon that involved millions of people....a lot of it was very underground and under the radar, no one person can presume to know what everyone was doing....
 
I didn't mean that the "psychedelic revolution" itself was under the radar, but there were a lot of different groups of people who all had a slightly different take on it...Some people were just casually into getting high and listening to music, but there were also a lot different spiritual/cult like groups and communes....There was the whole trade in psychedelic drugs....Everything that happens in the world now, is so much more visible and well documented than it was then, generally speaking...With the internet and cellphones and twitter...It's exponentially easier to exchange information now. even if a group of people was trying to be intentionally "secretive" about their activities these days, you leave a digital trail wherever you go....If a receipt is found in your car, the time and date on it can be matched to the video at the store, to your cellphone records..etc..just using that as an example...

A lot of things that happened that weren't documented were lost to history, or only exist in people's personal accounts recited by memory...Most media that you're able to find from the '60s relates to music or film or other things related somehow to mainstream culture, but that hardly tells the whole story....and there's still a lot of things that can't be found online as well....
 
Ismene said:
Still wondering about this one - LSD wasn't even illegal in 1965 so mushrooms certainly wern't. Who exactly "seized" these mushrooms and under what law?
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try finding a copy of this i suppose?::

Heim R, Genest K, Hughes DW, Belec G. (1966). "Botanical and chemical characterization of a forensic mushroom specimen of the genus Psilocybe". Journal of the Forensic Science Society 6 (4): 192–201. doi:10.1016/S0015-7368(66)70336-3.

keep in mind that this case was in canada. their laws may have been different in the 60s. idk.

also, check out this other bit that i also posted on page 4:

documented intentional Psilocybin mushroom use from 1914 http://www.erowid.org/references/refs_view.php?ID=8465

edit -- full text and scans from the original Science magazine article are here http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=93696
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apparently some people were aware of intoxicating but edible Panaeolus mushrooms as early as 1914 ^^

sorta blows the whole "barely anyone knew about them in the 1960s" thing out of the water imo

and Ismene, i gotta call you out here:: you're citing 0 sources, and yet you are disagreeing with both people who are citing sources and people who claim to have been actively using recreational drugs in the 60s. cite some sources, bud, please.
 
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During the interview Joe Rogan did with Dennis McKenna (thanks webbykevin), Dennis claimed that "not a lot of people had experience with psilocybin mushrooms" during their experiment at La Chorrera (1971, I believe?). Surely he would have known if it were otherwise?

No one (well, maybe Ismene) is dismissing that some people used them, possibly in the US, but no one brought documented accounts of that to the table either. (or at least for the first six pages when I was still following the thread)

EDIT: Err, sorry about that
 
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suidhead and drunkardsdream appear to know what they are talking about re mushrooms.
I was taught by my wiser, more experienced friend how to identify the right ones.
Arkansas - spring and fall after a moist humid rainy period.Out in the cow pasture growing from under the side of cow paddy - not in or thru. A little golden on top when small, as they opened had a lil thingy around the stem - crush the stem you get the purple stain.
we had about six reliable cow pastures in a 2 county area that we raided on a regular basis.

sorry Ismene but you don't need a science book or chemistry degree to tune in to nature, just pay close attention and remmeber
 
we were trippin hillbillies you might say
I can still picture them clearly in my mind - some things you just don't forget!
If you grow up as a stoner in a rural area you learn things that urbanites do not and vice versa
 
^^ good question

i don't know

but i'd imagine there are at least a few poisonous mushrooms that bruise blue. a bit of googling reveals a few shroomery threads that say that "just because a mushroom bruises blue does not mean its safe"

shroomery is worse than bluelight for misinformation though, imo
 
thenightwatch said:
keep in mind that this case was in canada. their laws may have been different in the 60s. idk.
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Nah, mushrooms wern't illegal in 1965 anywhere in the world as far as I'm aware. The article you cite seems to be claiming that the police would "seize" them and then "send them away for testing" like they would an unknown drug today. I wonder whether the police would even know what the mushrooms were never mind send a perfectly legal drug away for "testing".

apparently some people were aware of intoxicating but edible Panaeolus mushrooms as early as 1914..sorta blows the whole "barely anyone knew about them in the 1960s" thing out of the water imo


Maybe. I just wonder how come it took Wasson until 1955 to discover psilocybin mushrooms? Why didn't one of these hippies from 1914 come out of the woodwork and say "I've been tripping since Hitler was a corporal"?

you're citing 0 sources

No, I've cited plenty of sources. I've said Leary stopped tripping on psilocybin because he couldn't source mushrooms, I've told you how thousands of hippies were travelling to Mexico to trip on the "magic mushroom" because that's the only place the knew it grew, I've told you the first growbook was 1976 etc.

yet you are disagreeing with both people who are citing sources

But what are your sources worth? It's no use doing a 2 minute google search and then claiming whatever shit comes back is to be trusted. I've just asked you about your source that claims mushrooms were "seized" when they were legal and instead of saying "Ooops, yeah I hadn't thought of that" you came up with some idea that maybe Canada had banned them by 1965. Bud, please.

people who claim to have been actively using recreational drugs in the 60s

But the same people also claim to have been taking "chocolate mescaline". There's an awful lot of shit talked about drugs even today - when people can find out about drugs with a click on the internet. Imagine how clueless people were in the 60s when you could make up any old shit you wanted.
 
fixingahole and kidklmx appear to know what they're talking about! :D
 
the same shit happens today, with people lying about what they've done, and with one drug being passed off as another drug.

but the real thing is out there.

i'm sure that there was a subset of the hippie culture that consumed legitimate psychedelic mushrooms during the 60s. your skepticism is due, but i feel you are perhaps being too skeptical.
 
Might have been one or two but the idea that it was there some widespread youth movement tripping on mushrooms just doesn't work for me.

It was probably just drunkard and squid :D
 
Ismene said:
Might have been one or two but the idea that it was there some widespread youth movement tripping on mushrooms just doesn't work for me.

It was probably just drunkard and squid :D
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hahahahahaha i'm so glad i finally got you to at least admit that much :D

<3 man
 
well that is good cause left is right and right is wrong.
 
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