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Stimulants Will Amphetamines help Opiate withdrawal?

Haven't read the thread as it's so long . I have taken both mixed amphetamine salts and methylphenidate (I know, not an amphetamine) during withdrawal. I find it just exacerbates the pure hideousness I'm already going through.
It is hard for me because I take methylphenidate on a regular basis for ADHD... but I have found out the hard way that for me it's much better to go without stimulants of any kind and feel even more tired and out of it than it is to have every symptom of opiate withdrawal doubled.
Wow, that was a run on sentence lol.
 
Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
*facepalm*

getting off oxy with meth is like quitting coffee with crack. meth addiction is the worst kind.
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AT Bigfan...this can be debated. Meth addiction is horrible because it wears you and your body out so fast and you turn into a psycho really quick due to no sleep...but coming off it is light years easier than coming off a heavy opiate addiction. Just MO.
 
IME, yes absolutely help you ignore/not notice w/d's. Clearly tho that would be a retarded approach to w/d's for obvious reasons..
 
From experience: no. And in many cases, they may exacerbate the anxiety, insomnia and general restlessness of withdrawal. They definitely help with the soul-crushing fatigue and hypersomnia if that's a problem for you (it is for me). And of course, they carry the risk of addiction like any other drug.
 
wat does anybody think about using psychedelic amphetamines for going thru opiate withdrawl?....like DOC?
 
the ONLY proper usage during withdrawals is for "resetting" or disrupting basic thought processes, but tbh you're rolling the dice there and cannot imagine ppl recommending it (outside of certain ibogaine setups and whatnot)

the idea of using an addictive drug, or psychoactive drugs, to get off opiates is automatically flawed for obvious reasons.
 
Other than dosing low for a little energy or to lift your mood, HELL NO! Just thinking about it would make my skin crawl! Amphetamine during WD's = crawling skin, RLS, chills, anxiety attacks, nausea, and dehydration.
 
^I'm tellin you guys, on paper it sounds like a nightmare, but done right, it can really almost completely take away the withdrawals, for me anyway.....It's definitely better to use later into the withdrawals though. If you've tried it and it's been horrible for you fine, if you're just speculating on "what you think amphetamines MIGHT do to you in opiate withdrawal", posting in this thread is a waste of time.
 
I bought some Amphetamine Sulphate speed last week 6 days ago. I stored it in Aluminum foil in a dark bottle ( Vitamin Natrol bottle dont know what its made off)
Its in a cool place and away from light in a dark vitamin bottle although i never took the aluminum foil of the speed. Do you think it will retain its potency at least until the end of next week?
 
its a wild ride but if you can handle it and ride it out it can get you through opiate w/d. i am speaking of methamphetamine but large amounts of amph would work i suppose but you would need a lot. the psychosis that comes with it though....you have to be tough, physically and mentally cuz it is possible to break.
 
i nearly lost my mind doing it once, not to mention the physical pain...holy shit it makes it 10 times worse easily once yer out of stuff.
 
^I'm not talkin about tweaking your way through the withdrawal, although that sounds like something I would have tried 10 years ago....It's kind of like if you take a small dose of adderall a few times a day, enough to keep you awake 24 hours, and then chase it with a small dose of benzo, you have long periods of feeling no opiate WDs...Also, staying awake without sleeping for 24 hrs with the low dose benzo kinda just makes you go to sleep...

If you do a couple cylces of that, 4-5 days go by in a flash....Of course, it could fuck your judgement up and make you relapse on the opiates so....It's best to have adderall or straight d-amp....maybe 10 pills of 20 or 30 mg adderall and 20 mgs of clonopin or xanax....If all you have is 10 amp pills and 10 benzo pills and you space them out reasonable until you run out, it can work....

If you're coming off benzos and amphetamines anyway, in addition to coming off opiates, it definitely changes things!
 
I am joining this site to address some of the misinformation w/ regard to the thread

Dear fellow bluelighters,
A little background I'm new . I graduated from a prestigious university w/ a major in political science, pre-law, And a minor in japanese. That said, I'm an addict like many in here. I have PDR's lika any good addict.....but also I was tinking w/ going into nursing.

However, I saw many in here dismissing adderall & ritalin out-right. Some have tried w/ negative effects. Albeit, r all idividuals & have diffiring rxns. I have for 20 yrs. ; drug of choice - heroin. I've been on suboxone for about 3 yrs. Prescribed 8 mg. T.i.d + klonopin 2 mg. T.i.d. for the last 2 yrs. I've taken only 1/2 of 1= 4 mg. A day.

W/ regard to adderall & the like helping to mitigate opioid wd....... I found it to be true and so too some ppl. I know. There r roughly 4 opiate receptor sites: kappa, delta, mu, et.al. Rickket & Bencksiter made the product as a partisl agonist w/ a ceiling affect oppose to being dose-dependent. It targets the mu, allowing other sites to heal or cause new white matter ( synapse & connextions). Not to be confused w/ grey matter. Ampthetamine & the like affects and restores white matter....... even Strattera does that. Moreover, the dopaminergic affect caused by adderall is a benefit for wd from opiates as well as the NE transmitter. That said, its not the CNS effects but rather the PNS (peripheal nervous system) affects that, unchecked or abused, can be detrimental.

May I also recomend a benzo or barb. I used xanax & klonopin. All r legit Rx. Melotonin like someone mentioned, Bentyl, Tigan, sorry I'm in a rush- but u can look the meds u may not be familiarw/.

I have to go ttyas, best wishes & happy new year! [B ].
Post-script, I too was an Admin for an. M.J site...... that was 4 the mssg. Sent to me, as an intro, by wagon.
 
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I used amphetamines (meth) to get off of opiates. I don't get sick anymore, I was coming off of methadone though, so it takes a little longer. But i'm still doing amphetamines now, so take that how you want to.
 
The anxiety + the feeling of wanting to crawl out of your skin and that is just without amphetamines.

I know how much worse having just a single cup of coffee makes opiate withdrawal for me. Amphetamines are the last thing I would want during opiate withdrawal. If you are going to use it make sure at least you have enough to stay awake untill the withdrawal is gone, I can imagine how bad it would be to come down from meth on top of opiate withdrawal.
 
Toz said:
I can imagine how bad it would be to come down from meth on top of opiate withdrawal.
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Yeah, seriously. I know some people have done this and claimed it worked for them... but personally, amps would be the last thing I would want to take when I was dope sick.
 
I have been aided by moderate doses of amphetamine sulphate while withdrawing from opiates... They got me out of bed, helped feelings of general weakness and tiredness in my whole body, and eased the psychological cravings.
I wouldn't try it with meth, large doses, or prolonged doses, as sleep deprivation and any sort of stimulant crash while withdrawing would suck, like, ALL the ass. From moderate single doses I don't experience a significant crash.
 
I have a friend who had a mild opiate addiction, would go through minor to moderate withdrawals if didn't get his daily fix. Started shooting cocaine instead and that's what he started spending all of his money on. Yeah, terrible strategy but claims it got him off of opiates. Maybe the sweating and crappy feeling from being on coc overrides some of the opiate withdrawal or you don't notice it as much...Then again, now that I think about it, there was always the chance he was holding out on his heroin.
 
cocaine and amphetamines aren't the same....I agree that pretty much any other stimulant would make withdrawal worse.....IME, coke is the worst drug to take while dopesick, unless you have dope sitting right there...
 
Coke is terrible for withdrawal, it might help for 30 minutes or so, but when you're coming down you have that comedown mixed with your wd symptoms. Honestly, depending on the person, amp's CAN help, it helped me get off methadone. I quit 85 mg's of methadone a day, cold turkey after 3 years. Came to a different state, found a amphetamine connect when I was in my worst state of mind, smoked dope until my wd's were gone. I still do it daily though, so I guess I traded the drugs. I hope I can stop the amp's but I don't know if I can live without being high, that's terrible isn't it?
 
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