Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

[concernedconcerned]

do you guys ever take your dose sublingually and then feel like you're getting very mild WD sx for the next half hour or so? i'll feel hot/cold, a little sweaty, a little on edge...i wonder if it is the 'new' bupe ripping the old bupe off the receptors?

 

[misspharmacyashley]

no, that's never happened to me.. but i don't think 'new' bupe can rip 'old' bupe off your receptors.

 

[Znegative]

Yeah that really doesn't make much sense, thou I've heard that in real
Y high dosages buprenorphine can antagonize itself

 

[dcraver877]

probably the nalaxone or placebo effect if anything

 

[XTCAKE]

I was IVing my Suboxone a little bit more often than I'd like to admit to, recently (was doing this every day for about two weeks. May not sound bad, but I've only been sober since the middle of December). I had an IV dope habit prior to this. I DO want to remain sober; that is not the issue here...

The "issue", I guess, is that I've realized that I enjoy injecting Suboxone! I don't even get a rush or much out of it, I just feel the need to do it. I am one of those recovering dope addicts that just CAN'T put down the needle. I have a compelling urge to spike up, sometimes so strong of an urge that I will shoot water. It's SO fucking strange to me, though, because I do not crave dope in any way! Has anyone else had this happen? I DID switch back to putting these films under my tongue, but I want SO bad to IV these!

Oh, by the way, I've been living in a sober living house for the past few days, and I refuse to fuck this up. I don't want to get kicked out cause I was IVing a Suboxone! That's not how I want to go! I want to stay here and be safe! Anyone got suggestions for how I can slowly teach myself to really put down the rig?

 

[Znegative]

I went through that exact same thing, when I got on suboxone a few years ago. I had been taking high dosages of suboxone, and I was craving dope so bad. When I found out here on bluelight that you could shoot suboxone, I lowered my tolerance and began injecting. I still had cravings, but they were definately diminished. I also felt guilty about it at the time, as I wanted to be clean, but just couldn't seem to get it together after my relapse. In a way IV suboxone helped me stay clean until I relapsed on full agonists again. I guess clean might not be the word, but it helped me stay out of illicit business for a bit, that's for sure. The only way to put down the needle though, is to just put down the needle. The way I stopped injecting suboxone, was that after my relapse with OxyContin and opana, I put myself on a large sublingual dosage of suboxone for about a week (taking dosages upwards of 24mg.) and due to the tolerance I build up, I knew shooting it would not provide any sort of lift Ike it did when I had a lower tolerance to suboxone. I now honestly find for myself that I prefer sublingual suboxone due to its longer duration. Sure it doesn't hit me all at once, but iv bupe never gave me a very strong rush to begin with, so I don't feel like I'm personally missing out.

If you decide you are going to inject suboxone I would recomend getting a micron filter. I never used one, but I wish I did, as iv suboxone using just a cotton put my veins out of commission for a while.

 

[ms4104]

It's weird... Duane Reade used to put all my pills for my script into one pill container.. now I get scripted 90x 2mg subutex per month (2mg x 3 times daily), and they started just giving me the pill containers straight from the distributer/mfg. They come in 30 packs.. they are little square container that look like the pic below except for 2mg.

They are sealed too.. easy for them, they just give me 3 cvontainers.. dont even have to count LOL. I wonder why they never used to do that, cvs wouldn't either. Maybe teh dude is just lazy now

NSFW:

I have a backup stash of 30 8mg pills that I never eat into.. but I like havin all these lil 2mg pills lol. It makes dosing mad easier instead of wlays trying to break shit perfectly.

 

[Znegative]

Yeah when I was on the suboxone pills they would occasionally give me the little square manufacturers container. It made it seem more special

 

[jazz hands]

^ Nice. Yeah, I wish 2mg Subutex/ Suboxone was more available just because of the ease of dosing low amounts. Not everyone wants to be on a fuckton of bupe.

 

[ms4104]

HAHA for real. I am soooo special!! Now instead of having 1 container in my medicine cabinet I have a whole shelf lol

^ Nice. Yeah, I wish 2mg Subutex/ Suboxone was more available just because of the ease of dosing low amounts. Not everyone wants to be on a fuckton of bupe.

Yeah I have never foudn a pharmacy that sells it.. honestly the mom and pop pharmacies just turn me aaway. I guess with me ahving insurance they barel ymake a profit. Duane reade usually has to order it for me..but they'll do it.

for 90 it costs just over 150 bucks (we are allowed to talk about pricing on legal shit right?) if not sorry i'll edit it out. With my shitty insurance I only pay 15.. so it works out nicely. Even if I had to pay 150 monthly I wouldn't mind.. itd still be well worth it, but for 15 its basically free.


Now I just need to start taking less than 6mg daily after being on it all this time.

 

[Znegative]

Yeah having them in smaller dosages really helps. I you're dosing sublingual and trying to taper with an eight mg tablet, you're just gonna end up sniffing,pluggin or shooting instead, because it's just too hard. (though I suppose you could measure it out in liquid, but I'd be too afraid that I'd be waistline most of it). I can't wait to pick up my 2 mg strips. Cutting up the eights is more complicated than prepping a shot of heroin haha, I'm using rulers and like, long division. Insanity!

 

[ms4104]

hahaha dude that hilarious (the long division comment)

Yeah having them in smaller dosages really helps. I you're dosing sublingual and trying to taper with an eight mg tablet, you're just gonna end up sniffing,pluggin or shooting instead, because it's just too hard. (though I suppose you could measure it out in liquid, but I'd be too afraid that I'd be waistline most of it). I can't wait to pick up my 2 mg strips. Cutting up the eights is more complicated than prepping a shot of heroin haha, I'm using rulers and like, long division. Insanity!

 

[Danny Weed]

Hope everyone is good, just got a quick question I didnt know where else to post.

My last dose of morphine was 6 days ago, I have got over the worst of the symptoms. When I manage to sleep I wake up with my bed soaking with sweat, how long can I expect this to last?

 

[Znegative]

You're probably over the worst of it, but I'd say you probably have another week of feeling lousy ahead of you. Stick with it if you've got this far cold turkey,

 

[Danny Weed]

Cool man, I will just ride it out then.

 

[misspharmacyashley]

I was IVing my Suboxone a little bit more often than I'd like to admit to, recently (was doing this every day for about two weeks. May not sound bad, but I've only been sober since the middle of December). I had an IV dope habit prior to this. I DO want to remain sober; that is not the issue here...

The "issue", I guess, is that I've realized that I enjoy injecting Suboxone! I don't even get a rush or much out of it, I just feel the need to do it. I am one of those recovering dope addicts that just CAN'T put down the needle. I have a compelling urge to spike up, sometimes so strong of an urge that I will shoot water. It's SO fucking strange to me, though, because I do not crave dope in any way! Has anyone else had this happen? I DID switch back to putting these films under my tongue, but I want SO bad to IV these!

Oh, by the way, I've been living in a sober living house for the past few days, and I refuse to fuck this up. I don't want to get kicked out cause I was IVing a Suboxone! That's not how I want to go! I want to stay here and be safe! Anyone got suggestions for how I can slowly teach myself to really put down the rig?

i back znegative 100%.

on my first go 'round with suboxone, i was on it for 3 years (07-09) and on HIGH doses sublingually at that - fucking stupid - i was getting 2 30-count bottles of 8mg and 2 30-count bottles of 2mg from my sub doctor.. every month.. for free 8(. about a year and a half in i learned that you could inject those little suckers so i was like 'hell yeah!' and started banging my life away. this was also before i learned a little goes a long way so i was doing like 8mg unfiltered shots at a time.. multiple times a day.. uhhh yuck!

anyway, long story short, i met my husband, he convinced me to at least stop injecting and a month later i got pregnant and stopped all my prescriptions cold turkey (i was also on xanax and klonopin and various other drugs for depression/anxiety/whatever else - not fun at all..) a year after our daughter was born i relapsed on oxy and hydrocodone and fell off my wagon and got back on the dope and now back on the suboxone.

i'm right there with you on the needle fixation. i've gotten a hell of a lot better though! the first time i was on the subs it was really bad, like how you're describing with the water and everything. i would shoot just to shoot. now, i have better self control, i don't iv more then 1 time a day at most, if i can go 3 days without doing it i've done good for myself in my opinion and i don't FREAK OUT when i can't hit a vein over a drug that doesn't even give me anything in return except a needle fix which is always a good thing!

anyway, i hope you are able to find some answers for yourself, stay clean and in that sober house and know you're not the only one. i think the fixation is the main reason why people inject suboxone to begin with.

 

[subclown]

I have 2 questions:

I have a stomach disease that sometimes causes me to go to the hospital and have been there up to 4-10 days. The day I
am leaving I will get one last pain shot, for an example let's say I got a shot of Dilaudid (spelling) and I will wait at least until
the next day but sometimes I don't wait to go into full withdrawal mode when I take my Sub dose (hot/cold sweats, not
wanting to be around anyone, RLS, etc...) like everyone is supposed to do (or at least the first time I know it is like that
because I went through that) and instead what I do is I will wait 24hours and then take my Sub dose with a benzo and I
don't go into PWD that day or any other and this is what I did the first time I ever had totake opiates again and then
re-adjust to taking Subs again (which I have researched is the same thing that if one slips up or gets hurt or ends up having
something like I do, etc... you are supposed to wait again until you are in full withdrawal to take that first sub dose).

So pretty much every time now (I don't slip-up like oh I just feel like taking an opiate nor have I unless they were
administered in a Hospital) I just wait 24 hours (or once I start to feel that I am sweating or achy for no reason, but usually
no less than 20-24 hours/next day) and take my sub dose with a benzo and I am fine, is this weird? I only do it that first day,and then the next day I will just take my sub dose and continue on... Am I doing any permanent damage by doing this or evenanything wrong mentally/physically at all or do other people do this as well?

My next question was do people feel more...I guess the best way to put it is uncomfortable in their own skin and/or want to
rip their skin off? Obviously I don't mean seriously want to rip it off but just don't feel right since they started
suboxone/subutex, like for me I went from being so comfortable with myself to now I can't pee in public areas or I sweat for
no reason sometimes very badly and the 2 worst things is I will get this feeling like please nobody touch me and my GF takes
it personally which is like 75% of the reasons we argue/fight cause I won't be able be touched, have sex, cuddle, anything
and then I went from being able to grow out my hair and go weeks and months if I had to without having to get a haircut but now I have to get one every week literally because if I don't it adds to that feeling...I just don't feel like myself and this only came after I started suboxone. (I could go on about this feeling forever because it has ruined so many things in my life and
hopefully I am explaining it well enough for people to understand but if you still don't it is pretty much just this feeling of
anxiety where I can't be touched and I have to shower and I will get anxiety/panic attacks and then it of course just gets
out of control from there and I will have to take a Valium and that doesn't always work.

 

[Znegative]

You are not doing yourself any permanent damage by taking a benzo when you switch back to suboxone from a full agonist. As long as you're not taking an unreasonably high dosage of Valium(or any other benzo), which it sounds like you're not.

Secondly, I can relate somewhat to the second part of you're post, specifically not being able to pee in a public restroom. I can't do that either, unless I'm in a stall, and even then it's hard. Opiates and opioids are known to cause urinary retention, so that's a side effect. As to being irritable, I found myself in that state a lot when I was on a dosage of suboxone of 4mg or up. I would get very lethargic and frustrated easily, especially towards the middle of the day. I often felt unmotivated to do the things in life that I enjoy as well. What I did was taper down from four mg, to three mg stabalized there for a week, and then tapered further down to 2mg/day. At that dose I did not suffer from those feelings of apathy and lethargy nearly as much as I did at higher dosages. I'm currently stabalized at one mg a day, and for me, it's the perfect dose. I feel energy when I dose in the morning and the evening, and in between I feel good enough to get my work done. I still not terriby motivated, as I actually do believe I have ADD, but due to my history of stimulant abuse, no one will prescribe me amphetamines. Luckily at low dosages, I find suboxone stimulating, so it helps with that too. Hopefully this will be helpfull.

 

[ms4104]

Lets say youve been on bupe 1 year + (but there is a lot of h usage too previously). How quickly do you tyhink one could go from 6mg to 2mg without suffering to the point where I have noticeable rls, etc..?

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Lets say youve been on bupe 1 year + (but there is a lot of h usage too previously). How quickly do you tyhink one could go from 6mg to 2mg without suffering to the point where I have noticeable rls, etc..?

Depends on your individual body. It's different for a lot of people because we all have different metabolisms. But, for a general response, if you wanted to drop from 6 to 2mg without feeling any real withdrawal symptoms, you should take .5 less every 2-3 weeks. You can try it at only 1 week and see if you can do it. So within a couple months you can be down to 2mg comfortably.