Ray's paper for those who have asked:
hxxp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2814854/pdf/pone.0009019.pdf
With nasal application, it's true you come up very fast and there is often some anxiety due to the rapid comeup, and the peak occurs sooner, held under tongue, it is all still just as strong, but there is a more gradual build-up to the peak which is then longer and more drawn out. And yes, cyclodextrins even enhance nasal application.
I have a few new things to add, we have found that simply holding the HPBCD-complexed paper under tongue for as little as 10 minutes does the trick very well....20 minutes is not needed.
As soon as your whole tongue goes numb you know it is all dissolved, this happens with us in about 5 minutes, but we hold it under tongue for 10 minutes anyways. The cyclodextrin complexed stuff works really fast. The tongue becomes so numb that even for 10 minutes afterwards you can barely taste anything you try to eat.
And I take back my statement about higher doses of nbome with mescaline necessarily causing more analysis or electric type energy....the time I had experienced that "type of trip" was when I had taken the combination in the morning, before my body was warmed up...the trips are meant to be taken at night, I've never gotten the over-analyzing or electric type feeling if trips are done at night,
Last trip report, as ran out of mescaline for a while:
for example, last night with 250mg of mescaline hcl + 400ug (micrograms) of HPBCD complexed 25i under tongue caused the best trip yet..with eyes closed, I saw for a good hour during the peak of both substances never-ending neon visuals and visions of immense beauty, incredible detail, remarkable precision with not a blimish anywhere, archetypical images of exact brilliance and construction, artwork, historical images of all types, architectural structures, spinning geometrics all super neon with every color represented.....it was just mind-blowing, the whole time listening to music that sounded the whole time so out of this world that I wanted to cry it was all so beautiful, all things were made of more things inside of them, and the process just kept going on and on forever, super highly visual with eyes closed....yet there was no "over-analyzing" or any type of "electric type feelings" that acid would normally give you, it was very laid back and very very peaceful....immensely pleasurable the whole time. I had no idea it was possible to see things with eyes closed of such remarkable detail in every way that I literally had my mouth open the whole time in shock, it was like peering into a universe of your higher self that you are not supposed to see. I was shown artwork that I thought never existed, it was like "here look at this, check out what I can show you, I bet you've never seen anything like this ever before", and it was so true, sp said the same, everytime she closed her eyes, she could not believe the impossible imagery that she was being shown. I saw stone artwork that looked like it was chisled by the hand of God, it had impossibly perfect round features and swirls with blinding brilliance, still can't get over it. This is an artist/creative person's dream come true.
have worked with the combination enough times allready to have learned that each psychedelic trip has a "theme" to it, there are lessons to be learned and teaching taking place, there is a definite guide the whole time, I never got that with acid much at all, but this combination trip gives me direct teaching and things that it wants to show me each time, nothing ever repeats, every trip is very different...it's not just pretty visuals like acid would have you see, but actual visions with a guide to teach you.
If I had to compare the trip with acid, I would say it was equal to about 250ug of acid in visual quality, yet even still more visual, yet not an ounce of anxiety the whole time, it doesn't get any better than this imho.