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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy DOM Thread

All of the phenethylamines and amphetamines should be incredibly stable. I have not actually heard of anyone ever having 2C-E degrade. Are you sure that your tolerance and expectations are not higher for the 2C-E? Or your measuring is different this time or something?

DOM should be okay for your whole life, I wouldn't worry.
 
Xorkoth said:
Yep, DOM is no joke at all. It may be the most powerful and reality-bending mind space I've been in. It also exposes dark corners very strongly, at least at my 13mg dose (a high one to be sure). Talk about a roller coaster! I agree with Dexter that at higher doses there is a very strong amphetamine component. Although I didn't find it uncomfortable necessarily, it led a very manic and sometimes frantic edge to the trip which caused some of the trip to be white-knuckled. Overall it was a great trip, but it's ther first time a psychedelic has really shaken me up in many months. This one is far, far more speedy than DOC. DOC is actually damn calm for its intensity. DOM is not! However, my 7mg dose last time was quite calm and zen-like.
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I think you stated that quite well...and not because you were agreeing with me. :) ..but seriously.. "It may be the most powerful and reality-bending mind space I've been in. It also exposes dark corners very strongly," That's no joke....I think I could of "white knuckled" the trip in retrospect...but the mania was just WAY too much for someone that is already bi-polar, to have handled. For the record, I don't take any psychiatric meds. Used to...years ago..like the last time I did DOC...somewhere way back in the logs on BL. That's when I was shooting up the tainted DOC/2c-i batch that was going around.

Thanks to a great man, I have fully renewed my faith in the psychedelic/mystical/spiritual experience....and with pure L....god after doing such sub par L for years, once you get "the shit", it;s like "Oh!....so THAT'S where they got the word groovy from!" :)

The very first chance i can get a hold of some DOM again, i'm definately going to shoot for a +++ on it. Yeah I know, risky, but wtf...if I went through my ++++ DOM overdose again, I think I would definately handle it with ah and pure estonishment....even during the dark times. It's good to be back.. (was on too long of a dope hiatus and wasn't even lurking on the old BL...but i'm doing a lot better, even managed to get down from 8mg suboxone to 2mg a day, and next I'm getting of the kpins...so yeah......and hello to you all.

Oh, and if anyone has any pure mescal, plz fax me a gram right now. PZ.

-DM
 
The fax is on it's way, and congrats on getting down to 2mg a day suboxone! Good luck kicking the kpins too.
 
cegli said:
All of the phenethylamines and amphetamines should be incredibly stable. I have not actually heard of anyone ever having 2C-E degrade. Are you sure that your tolerance and expectations are not higher for the 2C-E? Or your measuring is different this time or something?

DOM should be okay for your whole life, I wouldn't worry.
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I had two friends take it and according to their reports, it was weaker than it should have been. One friend took 24mg for his fist time and he tripped, but it wasn't anywhere near the intensity it should have been. Another friend took ~36mg and he was fucked up, but not as high as 36mg should have gotten him.

Maybe the 2c-e was a little weak to begin with. Hopefully my few tryptamines didn't degrade too much. I think they are probably okay, maybe slightly degraded. Good to hear about the DOM, I have heard it is incredibly stable so I'm sure it is as potent as ever.
 
nd with pure L....god after doing such sub par L for years, once you get "the shit", it;s like "Oh!....so THAT'S where they got the word groovy from!"
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There is really nothing else like it. Having extensive experience with DOI (not DOM, I realize, but a friendly member of the DOX series nonetheless), it just doesn't have that glorious mental clarity that accompanies the ergoloids.
 
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I took 3mg of DOM last Saturday. Usually it's really easy to write about an experience for me, but boy that was quite different from what I was expecting.

For some reason I kind of expected it to be like a 2C-E trip that's been kicked up a notch, but it wasn't like that at all for me. First off, I've never taken something that made the world seem so alien. There weren't really many visuals, but it was hard to figure out where I was sometimes, even in familiar places. It was also very self analytical for me. A lot of questioning of life and the purpose of anything. That kind of stuff.

I also did not expect it to last as long as it did. I always thought that 16 hours of tripping would be awesome. I never have enough time to do everything I want to do in a trip, and I figured I'd finally be able to do it all. I don't know if I'm sensitive to DOM more than others, but with 3mg the trippy effects lasted at least 17 hours, and then the stimulation lasted for about 29 hours. I was expecting to be out in about 14-15. Very very wrong. I was sooo tired, but my legs were doing that cramping thing. I've never taken a benzo before, but I may actually do that it I plan on taking DOM again.

I guess I feel that DOM should be taken far more seriously than the happy go lucky phenethylamines I've tried before. It has a lot of bite to it. It was almost a slightly unpleasant healing experience, kind of like ayahuasca (but not at all like ayahuasca effects wise). One of those experiences you aren't sure about while it's happening, but as you integrate it, you feel better about your life and things get sorted out. Could of been my set too, who knows.

I'll probably try 5mg next time, but that probably won't be for a while :).
 
I guess I feel that DOM should be taken far more seriously than the happy go lucky phenethylamines
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As an analogy, DOM is like a psychic enema compared to the mild laxitive effects of the phenethylamines. Of all the phenethylamine derivatives I've tried, it's the one I have the most respect for as it's an unstoppable T-34 tank of a psychedelic one it gets going. Although different to the way LSD can take you, I find DOM can be more relentless in its psychedelia, probably due to the fact that it has a noticable stimulant component (in the way LSD taken together with amphetamine can be)
 
Yeah, I definitely will prepare for it better next time. I wasn't expecting it to go for so long. 28 hours before being able to actually sleep is rough when you're really tired. Plus I went hiking and dancing that whole day, which exhausted me a lot and made it rougher when I couldn't sleep.

Do you (or anyone else) almost find it haunting near the end? Maybe it was just my mood, but after the 12 hour point the world almost seemed kind of scary. I was kind of lost outside, even though I knew where I was. I actually worried a little bit about being able to find my way back home, even though I know that's completely irrational (I knew the area I was in well). Insane stuff.
 
Here's Grace. . .

In my copy of this months MOJO magazine, there is an interview with Grace Jones. She discusses her upbringing and background, along with her albums and collaborations. Anyway, she seemed quite happy to admit consumption of several drugs, from Quaaludes to coke. Also she mentions STP (Which shesays stood for Super Trip Pill. Here's the words:

At 12 your family moves from Jamaica to upstate New York. One of your report cards from Grant Junior High School declared you to be 'Socially sick'. In what sense?

Well, I was very shy. Because of the whole religious thing and growing up in Jamaica, only surrounded by a small group of people, I was not allowed to really socialise. So when I came to America, I would just stay by myself

So how did you go from being this painfully shy character to . . .

(Cuts in)I took a lot of acid!(Gales of laughter)Its the truth

At what age did you first pop a tab then?

About 15. It was enlightenening. And I think about the third time, they were experimenting with what was called STP, the Super Trip Pill. I took it with a doctor and I just wanted to come down because I stayed there for about three days on it. STP, darling. Talk to Timothy Leary, he'd know about that one.
A bad experience then?

No. It was just too long. I lost patience. I thought, 'Enough, now. OK. I see. I see. Now can I come down, thankyou?' After that I didn't need any more for the rest of my life.

Atta girl! Sounds like she had a classic peak experience with life changing realisations etc. She still seems a fairly intimidating chick, but there's proof that its more than just an image. Respect to her.
Later in the article she seems to admit to hitting the coke a bit during a low period in her career (in the 90's) but has cleaned up these days. She sounds like she still enjoys a smoke though, God bless her.

Just had to report admitted DOM usage in the media. Next time you are stuck in the middle of an extended dose of the Brown Acid, just remember, Grace has been there, and she's not barking mad now, is she? (?)

Pipp
 
I'd be very wary of dosing too high with DOM. LSD is one thing an amphetamine quite another
 
I can't understand all the comments about no visuals with DOM. For me it is very visual, but more to the point, the colours are so much deeper & richer than with any other psychedelic (including LSD). The sheer intensity of the blues, greens, purples etc are enough to induce a deep & peaceful euphoria; when you add on the mindset and smooth onset of the psychedelia (even if the stimulant component makes it a tad rough), it makes DOM a very special psychedelic for me.


I'd be very wary of dosing too high with DOM. LSD is one thing an amphetamine quite another
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I'd say 5-6mg is easily enough if you've little experience with it and no tolerance. Any more will become physically uncomfortable (5mg has me lying on the ground, twitching with the release of internal energy), which might go on to produce an uncomfortable mental state (and you really don't want that to happen with something like DOM)
 
^ Well we all took the same dose last time & only you got visuals.

So I reckon it's you & not anyone else =D

With DOM there's more inference than actuality visual wise I think
 
Yeah, I didn't have any real interesting visuals on 3mg. I must admit the world did seem way different, but not really in a visual sense that I could put my finger on. The mental effects were definitely pretty strong at those levels though.

Anyone else find DOM not visual at 3mg, but it opened up at a higher dose? I don't have a tolerance when I trip by the way.
 
I still have yet to find the time (in the proper set & setting) to experiment with this one. Burning a hole in my pocket it is. :p :p :p I haven't decided between taking 3 and 5mg as my first dose; my DOC sweet spot is probably around 5 and I hear that DOM is like, half the potency? I am not trying to overdo it with this material though ...
 
I've had DOM once at 10 mg, and it created the most sizzling, perspective-warping, thickest multilayered psychedelic soup me eyeballs have ever slogged through... but then again that was 10 mg! (i.e., way, WAY TOO MUCH!!!) 8(
 
I haven't decided between taking 3 and 5mg as my first dose; my DOC sweet spot is probably around 5 and I hear that DOM is like, half the potency?
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In terms of depth, DOC doesn't come near the equivalent dose 9of DOM; 1.5mg of DOC may be equated with 3mg of DOM, but the DOM will shake your foundations much more - weird stuff
 
SKL, I'd say start with 5. 5mg isn't enough for me to really trip but I am generally permanently entoleranced (new word alert) to DOXs.
 
With racemic DOM I would start at around five or six mgs - so yeah what Xorky said.

Propyl Power - 10mgs that would have been a ride & a half - and an extended comedown period at a guess ?
 
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