For anyone interested I ended up splitting a pre-weighed amount in lines and sharing it with three others. So we did approx. 10-15 mg each (orally), which I found fitting for the situation. One of us ended up doing another dose of the same size a bit later since it was on the light side for him. I think the effects develop in a bit more phases than for other 4-substituted tryptamines Ive tried. The effects came on fast (15-20 min), but took around an hour to develop fully for me. Was roughly comparable to 1-1.5 grams of cubensis, yet quite distinct in its effect. I wont say Im overly impressed. Its probably the least interesting of the 4-substituted tryptamines Ive tried. But the dose was also moderate, so maybe I just need more next time. It was quite pleasant, however. I would do it again some time.
In regards to this, might do some of this again tonight, but I have a bit of a problem. I did buy a scale that measures to the thousandths decimal (ya know, to get specific low weights), but because of certain circumstances, I don't have access to it.
My question, is, since I'm gonna have to use a normal scale that only measures to the hundredth, I'm wondering what the +/- is on the actual weight that your run of the mill scale shows. I'm definitely just going to attempt to weigh out 4 or 5 solid doses, so 60mg to 75mg (15mg a piece, mix it into alcohol). Honestly, I have multiple questions..
1) How accurate is the average scale when it comes to low numbers like 60 or 70mg's? I know a lot of them won't even begin to show anything is on the scale until it gets to 20 or 30mg, so I'm just curious.
2) What is the difference between a dose of say, 15mg and a dose of 25 mg's? Just in case the scale is off?
Obviously, I wouldn't be doing this if I just had to weigh out some for me and another person. i'm only using a lesser scale because I know I'll need to weigh out multiple doses, and i know most scales can tell you *in the ballpark*.
I didn't end up doing any the day of this post, but we decided yesterday to do some. Here's what went down.
I took the advice I was given to put something with actual weight on the scale and then add to that with the MET. That's what I did. I thought, just to be safe, go on the the lower end of the spectrum. I wanted us to do around 20mg's, and there was 4 of us. But instead of weighing out 80-ish mg's, I weighed out 70-ish. Measured the liquid (OJ), tossed it in the cup and stirred vigorously.
First, the body load was just as bad as last time. Within 5 or 10 minutes, it was a chore for me not to throw up. My buddy was in a similar situation, but he probably got it worse.
Now here's where things got scary, I would say maybe 15 minutes after ingestion, I (all of us) was tripping harder than I've tripped in years. Full on visual distortion, morphing, sound manipulation, dream like state, full body high, trouble walking, etc. I would equate it to how I felt the time I got my hands on some extremely potent gel tabs. Those also kicked in almost immediately. But the thing was, this was scarier than hell. Clearly, the measurement had to be off my at the very least 10 to 15 mg's. At the very least. But as you know, I was thinking it was far worse than that. My mind was too far gone 20 minutes in to be even kind of rational. I was holding on for dear life. Thankfully, my experience took over and I was able to ease my mind. But for about 3 hours, we tripped HARD. Much harder than we did on 20+mg's of 4-aco-mipt. Much harder than the first time we did MET. Much harder than when we take our usual hit of 105 ug acid. Like I said, for the first hour, I would equate it to those gel tabs, which I would imagine were probably 200 to 300ug's. I'm not shitting you. This was big boy tripping.
When we all got ahold of ourselves, it was fun as hell, but man oh man. I can't be risking it with these shitty scales. I'm gonna need to buy a good new scale. Because this was dangerous. Thank God I planned on low balling us.
Yes, invest on a good scale. The "add something to the platter prior to measuring" method is also useful with such scales and you'll get additional accuracy. I use the parachute paper and then add the substance to it. Anyway, I'm glad to hear that things worked out well in the end. Stay safe.
Hey, trying to find information on 4-ho-met's legal status in Texas. I looked at the 2020 Schedules of Controlled Substances at Texas.gov
and am having difficulty deciphering whether this is in fact covered. Other than, says alot about isomers. Now I don't see any 4-ho's or acetyls, although psilocin is listed.
I don't remember seeing the chemical's name,4-hydroxy-N,N-ethyl-methyltryptamine, although it might be easy to miss, since much of it is listed with some chemical names not having an abreviated short hand.
Is this final proof of legality in texas or is there some other documents that might have it listed. Also is this an isomer in some way to whats being scheduled.