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The Big and Dandy 3-MeO-2-oxo-PCPr (MXPr) Thread

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sublingual worked great except it makes your mouth go numb and produces too much salvia. i had to swallow before it all absorbed.
 

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I just wanted to copy and paste this here, incase anyone is interested. It's a response I got to my tl;dr bad trip report, which I also posted in the European & African Drug Discussion forum...



Just another account of someone also spinning/moving around whilst in an m hole.

You spin me right round baby, right round etc!
What exactly does it mean?

Last night when I did 60mg plugged, during peak I was moving sideways like crazy, well not psychically of course but I felt like I was moving
in a really fast motion, it was extremely weird and oddly enjoyable. Is this what you guys are talking about? It felt like I was in a ride.
 
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What exactly does it mean?

Last night when I did 60mg plugged, during peak I was moving sideways like crazy, well not psychically of course but I felt like I was moving
in a really fast motion, it was extremely weird and oddly enjoyable. Is this what you guys are talking about? It felt like I was in a ride.
I think that's something different. I know the feeling you mean. I've had that from MXE and ketamine. It is enjoyable and I'd agree feels like a ride!
 

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I think that's something different. I know the feeling you mean. I've had that from MXE and ketamine. It is enjoyable and I'd agree feels like a ride!
Oh, right :D Thanks. I still can't decide if it worths 70 euros or not considering my preferred dose is 50-60mg with a potential of a redose or redoses.
 

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I'm not positive but I think seroquel, being an antipsychotic, will largely block the effects of dissos.
 

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I'm not positive but I think seroquel, being an antipsychotic, will largely block the effects of dissos.
i only use dissos after the seroquel half-life + more hours and the previous batch is active for me. this is intresting... 🧐
 

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So I have my MXPr in hand. :) I'm almost surely going to try an introductory dose after work. I had some noopept this morning first thing, but that only lasts a few hours so I don't think it will have any impact on things. I'll try to write at least a mini-report. I'll probably do 20mg, maybe 25mg orally.
 

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I will drop a whopper of a trip report when I have come down enough, 500mg in plugged increments got lots to tell but still too far out there, I just want to sober up enough to deliver a coherent story :)
 

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Wow that's a whopping dose! I'm coming up slowly on 22mg oral. I'm just trying to dip my toe in tonight, I don't want to have a deep experience or get super dissociated, I want to compare to an equivalent low dose of MXE, and have a relaxing evening maybe watching a cool nature show, writing down my observations, etc.

The smoothness is just starting to descend on me. :) This stuff tastes really odd.
 

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MXPr = MXE squared.

A trip report by Asante.


Today is the second day of a 2-day binge wherein I took a grand total of 500mg. The MXPr has all been long since consumed, I am now, at 20 hours after ingestion, still in the process of coming down, and comfortably so.

Throughout the past 8 years very many read my Shroomery MXE trip reports later collected in "My Journeys To The Holey Land" (https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/18134073/fpart/all a members only area) and for more than a few I have been one who pointed the way to MXE in their personal life, even warned them to stock up twixe before the disastrous ban.

4 months ago my MXE stock ran out, and as I promised The Universe (I channel) the last gram was split into a half that was used and a half that was mixed with saltpeter and sulfur and used as a burnt offering where I vowed to leave my (by then) dissociatives addiction behind me. The ritual burning of my last half gram as incense to the Universe in gratitude for all the teachings can be seen here:

However, days again the Universe called on me again, asking me to obtain 0.5gr MXPr and to use it in a hard plugging session as I had a tolerance for with MXE, and to fashion the results into a trip report, to show the way to others, including those of the (mostly Shroomery) MXE flock to show them that MXPr was the way the Universe intended the MXE tale to continue, for those so inclined and so fortunate to source it. As my trip reports had inspired some over the years into MXE, now it was my turn to point the way to MXE's natural successor for those for whom the MXE saga had been tragically cut short from the ban. As the vocal person with the most recent use of MXE, the responsibility was mine.

MXPr is Propyl where MXE is Ethyl. MXM proved a dead end for those seeking the mystical journey of MXE.

I had sourced the chemical from a site showing a convincing analysis for 99% pure MXPr, enough said about that. All the main sites put out the same batch #1 anyway.

It came to me as a somewhat off white, slightly clumpy powder. Very slight chemical odor. Substance has a bitter taste with a sweet aura – it causes some local anesthesia of the tongue, more so than MXE or caffeine. 0.5 grams dissolved with ease into 5ml warm water leaving a slightly hazy solution.

A solution was made of 500mg in 20ml so that 1ml = 25mg.

Usage was by plugging, using a needleless 10ml syringe lubricated with Argan oil.

First dosage, 25mg = 1ml, was administered rectally at 13:00h into a male subject. After that, roughly every hour a 50ml (2ml) dose was plugged, with eventually 75mg (3ml) and a remaining 85mg. Usage was volumetric so fairly precise, of the 25mg/ml solution (after the possibility of a 100mg/ml solution was proven for prospective IM users)

Some loose notes from the live trip report:


12:50h: 25mg (1ml) plugged





13:20h: the effect is strongly dissociative and in comprison to MXE, up to this point considerably more sedative. It seems to be less stimulant so far than MXE, the trend that PCPr is less serotonergic than PCE might ring true in this compound. Its stoning, considerably so, I have an itch in my skin, not allergic but rather the dissociating disconnection of the body is in progress. Guys, I used pure MXE up until 4 months ago and um, this may actually be a tad stronger than MXE. It could be cause its been 4 months.. I'll give this 50 more mg. Like MXE it came on strong in the first 10 minutes, plugged,





13:30h +50mg plugged

An odyssey ensued, I was taken on a journey – like Moses through the desert, 40 years, but I did it in 40 minutes on two seats of my couch! Very mystical and aspiritua, constant channeling oif the Being identifying as the God of All Things. The compound is rich and enveloping, no party drug, you need comfortable shelter and sustenence. Its "thicker" than MXE, indeed so far, less stimulating, which I love. It has the Ambrosia of MXE and its thick like honey, it has less of that excitedness. Its more confusing than MXE. like earlier reported. An interesting property. Its very mind-warping, much more so than MXE. Novelty? For the love of God, do not use this in a club or other complicated setting. You're gonna need quiet time to readjust your mind after a dose of this.



14:30h +50mg plugged





15:22h An illuminated soup behind closed eyes, everything allright. My body feels enormous. It is,of course, I'm 170kg, but the body feels magnified – big, the spirit body/body image feels bloated, enhanced, expanded. I',m physically comfortable (in a wtf way of course), I have a sense of morphing. By the Power of Grayskull, I'm going to march on up to the cannon's mouth and do this 500mg.





(..)

04:30h 100mcg flubromazolam to counter an anxiety attack, went to bed to weather the storm. The clear stimulasnt push had begun on the tail end of the effect. Went to bed to ride it out, my muscles and mind unclenched


What is missing from this raw report is several +50mg boosters and the final +75mg and +85mg where I took it as far as it would go.

When I took the 75mg I entered into the Hole. I called for the Spirit of MXPr to show itself and it came. It was decidedly feminine and was ice cold in thre dimensions we were in. She enveloped me, took hold of my arms and moved them for me, stroking over my body, it was her way of greeting and hugging me. She was enormous intensely cold an intimidating but wished me well and greeted me personally in this way, by gripping and "hugging" my body in this dimentions we shared. She was grateful that I had come. It was deeply moving.

In the second and deepest hole she came to me and quite literally wowed me. She sent waves of WOW energy from my spine upeward out my head Kundalini style, wave after wave. It filled me to the brim with ecstasy, I raises my arms like in a football stadium wave and silently screamed WOOOOOOW WOOOOOW WOOOOW asw these waves of incredibly intense euphoria that I never experienced on any drug beforehand washed through me and cleansed me. This lasted a merciful eternity before she left me to recover from my spiritual ecstasy. My Spirit Guide said that this was her gift to me, an early explorer determined to pave the way for others. I called to Her spirit directly and She came to meet me, this is unusual with drug users.

Friends, friends! I feel so blessed by this experience, but I knew it was a onetime thing and I will not revisit it, I have paved one of the first stones of the way, you guys BUILD THE ROAD.

MXPr is GOOD!

For the ones seeking the highly electric side of MXE, the party drug, nay, it is less suitable for that. This is more sedating and more mindfucking. More couchlocking and more out-of-your gourd.

But, if the Saga of the Mystery of MXE is what arouses the interest in you, you will find no equal in other analogues. It is pure Ambrosia. There is a bit more queasiness of the stomach but less hypersalvation at higher doses. There IS an antidepressant push on the day after.

If you are a club MXE user, skip this, it will turn you in an awkward potato that might get 911 called on it because you seem beside the point or are unresponsive, but if you are a solo or goup traveller in secluded private locations, it is Willy Wonka's golden ticket. For those, it is MXE squared.

For me it was about as dissociatively potent, but less stimulantly potent, as MXE, with a slightly shorter duration. MXE squared for those into the Mystery. Highly entheogenic. It was closed eyes visual but not overly so. The colors gray, brown and strong purple dominated. Entities were found.

A word of warning: It takes a hefty dissociative tolerance and a strongly trained mind to take 50mg plugged doses of MXE on the hour, back to back. Do not go there. Really. But toxicologically, it is not impossible, as was demonstrated here. This was a 170kg human being labratting for you, not common recreational behavior. This was a tour de force, to a degree at the expense of my body, to show that it could be done.Nothing cool about it, cool is taking a few mg and calling it a day.



I thank you all very much for reading this. Know your source, know your dosage, be safe. Stay well within what I did here dosewise, in the knowledge that it likely has a reasonable margin of safety if responsibly used.
 
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A word of warning: It takes a hefty dissociative tolerance and a strongly trained mind to take 50mg plugged doses of MXE on the hour, back to back. Do not go there. Really. But toxicologically, it is not impossible, as was demonstrated here. This was a 170kg human being labratting for you, not common recreational behavior. This was a tour de force, to a degree at the expense of my body, to show that it could be done.Nothing cool about it, cool is taking a few mg and calling it a day.
Great report, thanks man :) How hefty tolerance are we talking about (and with what substances specifically)? I'm begining to question there's something wrong with my body. One day 60mg plugged gave me normal dissociation. Next day same 60mg plugged was a really interesting hole, powerful but not intimidating. I thoroughly enjoyed. 1 hour after that hole I plugged 50mg, and it was not a hole but strong dissociation. Granted, I do 14mg 3-ho-pcp every week once or twice.

Next day after the hole, I plugged 60mg again, mid-strong dissociation which lasted short. But this is because doing consequtive days I think. I strongly believe that tolerance of MXPr is really high. I can take 3-ho-pcp consecutive days with no tolerance at all.
 

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Yeah what is a hefty dissociative tolerance? 60mg MXE still rolls me over in the clover and does it again ^_^ (at least it did when I still had a stash of it) but 30mg MXE or this 25mg MXPr still was quite effective, plugged. Orally, 30mg MXE wasnt nearly as impressive asit was in 2011.

Dissociatives work by depolarizing neurons, this is a bit of a hit-or-miss situation. Sometimes it gets to you way more than on other times. Of course if you plug, there may be a mess in there interfering with absorption.

On the day after I plugged 3ml vegetable glycerin (USP) + 7ml warm water and held it 15 minutes before expelling. Glycerin is a prized emollient and skin conditioner and it does the same for the colon wall. Brings it to rest nicely after a plugging session with its hyperosmotic alkaloid salt solutions. It also works like a laxative, but that was not the sought after effect.

My bowels tied themself in a knot less than with the same amount of MXE, diuresis was about the same and there was less hypersalivation.
 

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Yeah what is a hefty dissociative tolerance? 60mg MXE still rolls me over in the clover and does it again ^_^ (at least it did when I still had a stash of it) but 30mg MXE or this 25mg MXPr still was quite effective, plugged. Orally, 30mg MXE wasnt nearly as impressive asit was in 2011.

Dissociatives work by depolarizing neurons, this is a bit of a hit-or-miss situation. Sometimes it gets to you way more than on other times. Of course if you plug, there may be a mess in there interfering with absorption.

On the day after I plugged 3ml vegetable glycerin (USP) + 7ml warm water and held it 15 minutes before expelling. Glycerin is a prized emollient and skin conditioner and it does the same for the colon wall. Brings it to rest nicely after a plugging session with its hyperosmotic alkaloid salt solutions. It also works like a laxative, but that was not the sought after effect.

My bowels tied themself in a knot less than with the same amount of MXE, diuresis was about the same and there was less hypersalivation.
Thanks for the info. So based on my dose, do I have hefty tolerance in your opinion? :D
 

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PUGinaRUG; now that I have done 500 in as brisk a pace as your 200, makes me think more and more that you were carted out to Accidents & Emergencies based on the physical manifestations of your utter despair, while half your midbrain was shut down so that it temporarily resembled severe brain damage, and not that something was physically wrong. You were discharged without serious diagnoses, write it off as spazzing out because of a horror trip and the ambulance etc people spazzing out based on their unfamiliarity of a patient being carted in who's half midbrain is depolarized but who is otherwise shaken, but fine from a physical health standpoint.

You simply were more shockingly drunk than alcohol is cap[able of and having the worst possible bad trip, Stuck In The Middle Of You for what seemed All Eternity.

In my trip it dawned on me that what you and I experienced might simply be our consciousness realizing that its stuck in a central nervous system separate from the outside world with most sensory input severed, and this giving the frightning sensation of being shut out from the Universe, kind of like Metallica's One.


For all intents and purposes, when we are dissocviated we are temporary Chronic Ward inmates, minds traped in a severely malfunctioning nervous system. To a part of you that doesnt realize this, most senses cut off, its a nightmare beyond belief.
Not all parts of our consciousness know we are in a dissociative session and that it will end. Your terrible misadventure was on my mind a lot while I marched on up to the cannons mouth. I hope it helps you, brother.
 
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I've never thought of intense trips like you just described until now. Wow! It does really feel like in Metallica's One. Not all of them necessarily terrifying, but definitely feels like being trapped.
 

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I'm glad you were fine on 500mg. That seems like an absolutely insane dose to me! Not sure what it is with MXE and MXPr, but I've had between 50 and 100 ketamine sessions (holing) and never had a bad trip on it. Never moved around or cried out or damaged myself. I guess they are just quite different drugs even though in the same class of drugs.
 

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Yeah, packing 50mgs every hour and then a 75 and 85 is "toxloading" more than it it recreational tripping , its seeking out the limit of what can be handled. I'm reasonably versed in chemistry, I'm well trained in in MXE, I decided to take the calculated risk.

MXE and MXPr are closer to PCP in effects than Ketamine is. Spiritually, which may be subjective, MXE presented as a masculine entity, MXPr as a feminine one, but a feminine one in ice cold armor instead of the warm and forgiving temptress Ketamine..
 
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