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Do y’all have cheaper generics in the UK @Vastness ? I get generic for my alpraz and I only pay a dollar eighty after insurance. Almost makes me happy to pay out the wazoo for insurance lol, at least my alpraz is essentially free.
Honestly I've never got anything fun with a legitimate prescription, although I've never really tried, as I mentioned the prescribing culture here is extremely conservative compared to the US, especially when it comes to mental health. I think if I did, it would be very cheap, because of the NHS prescriptions are basically a flat rate per pickup of £9, I believe around $11, so depending on your prescription, some meds could be very cheap indeed, although I suspect with potentially abusable repeat prescriptions there will be a limit to how much they'd prescribe at any one time.

So all my non prescribed pharms are from other sources, benzos and whatnot are very cheap IME, just pharma stims that are mindbogglingly high. Maybe something to do with the relative rarity of such prescriptions in the UK. Many people shit on the US medical system about being too prescription happy, and for sure there are problems with big pharma and capitalism coming before the greater good, but I think Europe and probably elsewhere too is way too draconian in some ways, like some things that are not even remotely abusable are prescription only when there's just no justification for it, like asthma inhalers (and not like old benzedrex ones, these ones are absolutely in no way abusable - not that I've tried).

We do have private healthcare options here but, again, it's expensive, and meds will be more expensive too. I need to look into it a bit more, just gotta decide if I want to gamble like $500 or something on the off-chance of getting a private doctor who is a bit more sympathetic to the usefulness of certain medicines, when it might still end up being a waste of time. I'm not suicidal, I have a job, I seem to be coping so, "suck it up and let me refer you for talk therapy." Not that talk therapy is not an important thing and I am a proponent of it but I feel like I've talked about everything already now and am just retracing the same old ground and cyclic ups and downs.

Forgive that spiel, I know this isn't the mental health forum, just a bit frustrated right now.

Few hours ago before going to bed and failing to sleep.
+30mg amphetamine because I'm a degenerate.
+4g kratom
+10mg diazepam

Few beers, man that was too much speed today, really crashed towards the end.

Time to try again to sleep. All the best y'all, may your lives be filled with happiness and free from suffering.
 

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Honestly I've never got anything fun with a legitimate prescription, although I've never really tried, as I mentioned the prescribing culture here is extremely conservative compared to the US, especially when it comes to mental health. I think if I did, it would be very cheap, because of the NHS prescriptions are basically a flat rate per pickup of £9, I believe around $11, so depending on your prescription, some meds could be very cheap indeed, although I suspect with potentially abusable repeat prescriptions there will be a limit to how much they'd prescribe at any one time.

So all my non prescribed pharms are from other sources, benzos and whatnot are very cheap IME, just pharma stims that are mindbogglingly high. Maybe something to do with the relative rarity of such prescriptions in the UK. Many people shit on the US medical system about being too prescription happy, and for sure there are problems with big pharma and capitalism coming before the greater good, but I think Europe and probably elsewhere too is way too draconian in some ways, like some things that are not even remotely abusable are prescription only when there's just no justification for it, like asthma inhalers (and not like old benzedrex ones, these ones are absolutely in no way abusable - not that I've tried).

We do have private healthcare options here but, again, it's expensive, and meds will be more expensive too. I need to look into it a bit more, just gotta decide if I want to gamble like $500 or something on the off-chance of getting a private doctor who is a bit more sympathetic to the usefulness of certain medicines, when it might still end up being a waste of time. I'm not suicidal, I have a job, I seem to be coping so, "suck it up and let me refer you for talk therapy." Not that talk therapy is not an important thing and I am a proponent of it but I feel like I've talked about everything already now and am just retracing the same old ground and cyclic ups and downs.

Forgive that spiel, I know this isn't the mental health forum, just a bit frustrated right now.

Few hours ago before going to bed and failing to sleep.
+30mg amphetamine because I'm a degenerate.
+4g kratom
+10mg diazepam

Few beers, man that was too much speed today, really crashed towards the end.

Time to try again to sleep. All the best y'all, may your lives be filled with happiness and free from suffering.
I really think the “fast and loose” view Euro peeps have of our prescribing is a decade out of touch. Ten years ago you could get anything easy. Now even low dose cpam and alpraz or even dexamps are hard to get prescribed. I went to five doctors complaining of pain levels that made me suicidal and finally one gave me alpraz and now I don’t have to jump off a bridge. My gut hurts so much without it. People who get long term bzds for anxiety irk me because they make it harder for people like me who need them for chronic GI pain.

Like no joke I wanted to die. I’m so, so grateful I found a compassionate doctor willing to help me avoid suicide.

Feeling super tired. 8+10mg O-DT today and 5mg etiz spread over the day. So tired of packing boxes.
 

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Morning blue world

Started the day with 6mg bromazepam and a joint. Few hours later I had a drink and then went out to score some H or even see if its gonna be possible with the lock down. I passed a few roadblocks with the army and everything. Got stopped and said I'm on my way home after sleeping at a friends house in town. So they let me go and I hooked up with my supplier in the middle of a shopping centre as it was the safest place, go figure. Anyhow got home and had my fix

5 hits H
200ml vodka
1 quart of beer

Feeling supper relaxed after that. Hope everyone else is having a good time and is healthy
 

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Eating a cheddar ham wrap and drinking a caramel macchiato at my friends place. Got a six pack waiting.
 

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It's still pretty easy to get Rx stimulants and benzodiazepines here in the states if you present well. Opioids, yes, they're much more conservative about those than they were in the past.
 

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Last day at work before I move so I caved and took some desmetramadol along with 300mg pregabalin. I honestly tried kratom first but it is just straight up not working. Everyone at work is gonna be all emotional and I need drugs for that too.
 

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I'm wanna try and order some phenibut today. But that products I can find are all OTC products, so is this still the real thing?
 

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I really think the “fast and loose” view Euro peeps have of our prescribing is a decade out of touch. Ten years ago you could get anything easy. Now even low dose cpam and alpraz or even dexamps are hard to get prescribed. I went to five doctors complaining of pain levels that made me suicidal and finally one gave me alpraz and now I don’t have to jump off a bridge. My gut hurts so much without it. People who get long term bzds for anxiety irk me because they make it harder for people like me who need them for chronic GI pain.
Damn, that sucks man. But yeah, probably that's true, I mean I don't know personally not having lived in the US but I'll take your word for it.

I think it is surely still a little easier to get prescribed psychiatric medication though, no? Benzos maybe barely even fit this description anymore except in extreme cases... but I have a friend who's a psychiatrist of some description who lives over there though and she said to me recently that basically if you go to a psychiatrist you'll probably come away with a prescription, which over here is not the case at all, even to get referred to a psychiatrist rather than just a CBT therapist or something you have to jump through endless hoops, and just looking at the statistics (I mean, I have not right now, but I'm sure they're out there) prescriptions for psychiatric medicine in the US compared to most of the rest of the world are still anomalously high.

Not that that's necessarily "bad", again as I say I think Europe has gone too far the other way, you have to be really suffering to even be considered to be medicated for psychiatric issues... unless you go private. Perhaps that's a funding issue with the NHS though, the government here has been gradually dismantling social welfare for years and mental health is low hanging fruit and easy pickings to be defunded as far as that goes...

Today:
40mg racemic amphetamine (actually this stuff is supposedly only around 80% pure, so really 36mg and 4mg of some inactive white powdery stuff.)
3g kratom
 

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Binged all through the night and will have taken around 800mgs of this Cathinone has me rolling/stimulated to the Max and I'm loving it just took another dose and I'll be good for 2 hours and then I have my last gelcap bandit time to start settling in for the decent because everything the flys up high needs to come down someday. But fuck guys it was totally worth it I havent had this much fun on a stim in awhile it blows the docks off the adderall I take once in awhile when my wife has extra. The thing with that is yeah its Euphoric the first hours the it's just a gangly comedown and chasing that first feel good but it's not the same. This stuff comes back to feels good smiles plastered across your face ever dose.

Sketchy ass vendor with horrible communications then sent the wrong package and there was more samples then I was supposed to get so how do you know which is which they were trying to push me to get Ephylone hard so I'm pretty sure that's what the big rocks were size of fucking gold balls and hard I had to crush them down for awhile it was tricky but eventually I got it into a crystalline powder easier to handle and weigh to exact amounts and this person is always giving me the run around cuz one thing was inactive. Never going through this fucking bitch again she think I'm some kinda newbie to this thing I mean least I didnt get straight up fleeced for my cash but sometimes if a price seems to good to be true it probably is in this scene where we can hide in shadows. But anyways I'd gotten a fat sack of this and did a 5 day straight run and then gave it to a friend to play with and send some off to a lab to have the drug identified so we know what we have been getting off on this month.

He partied with it a week and then sent the last gram back and I hammered that shit tonight and it could not of been better timing being a shut in these days cuz of being laid off work makes me wanna use more drugz..oh well. It's times like these to live for the moment because for all you know one us might catch that virus and ever be here again and we will lose out on reading those posts that brighten up a part of our day. First thing in d otto in the mornings after I make my espresso is sit down and scroll through Bluelight and see what's new.

you guys mean alot to me <3
 
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It's still pretty easy to get Rx stimulants and benzodiazepines here in the states if you present well. Opioids, yes, they're much more conservative about those than they were in the past.
I think it depends on your State you live in then. Here all the psychiatrists do is throw an SSRI at you pray you don’t get Serotonin Syndrome. Bipolar? SSRI. Depressed? SSRI. Anxious? SSRI.

I had a psychiatrist chew me out for even suggesting that SSRIs are inherently dangerous and 90% placebo effect... I’m like dude, do you not read scientific journals in your field? I do, because I suffer from depression and anxiety and wana know what’s up. Same psychiatrist office has a sign in the waiting room saying they don’t prescribe controlled substances. I should have just run when I saw that but I noticed it only as I was leaving and had forked out $250 to see him...
 

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Also, @Vastness , the field of psychiatry is completely separated from psychology here. Your average psychiatrist charges you out the ass for a 15 min visit where they barely get to know you then they pick an SSRI out of the bucket and tell you to come back in a month. It’s a fucking racquet. Psychologists you pay a little less and they’ll actually sit and talk to you for an hour and have no legal prescribing powers.

I have a very strong loathing for those who practice psychiatry in the US, they tend to be narcissistic assholes. Think Frasier... but without the comedic relief.

I’ve met some pretty shitty psychologists too but they tend to be friendly in general as it’s their job to actually talk to you. Had one as a teen tell me I was depressed because I needed to listen to my parents and do my homework for school like a good boy though: that just made me more depressed lol. My last psychologist was nice and I liked her but my insurance stopped paying for her after five visits so I was like... okay, I guess I’m better now? Bye...
 
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Been drinking all morning but dont really feel like it anymore so gonna save the rest for later.
 

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you guys mean alot to me <3
Ditto Cosmic Charlie, you mean a lot to us! :p I'll echo the sentiment for the rest of y'all too, genuinely wish all of you happiness.

Also, @Vastness , the field of psychiatry is completely separated from psychology here. Your average psychiatrist charges you out the ass for a 15 min visit where they barely get to know you then they pick an SSRI out of the bucket and tell you to come back in a month. It’s a fucking racquet. Psychologists you pay a little less and they’ll actually sit and talk to you for an hour and have no legal prescribing powers.

I have a very strong loathing for those who practice psychiatry in the US, they tend to be narcissistic assholes. Think Frasier... but without the comedic relief.

I’ve met some pretty shitty psychologists too but they tend to be friendly in general as it’s their job to actually talk to you. Had one as a teen tell me I was depressed because I needed to listen to my parents and do my homework for school like a good boy though: that just made me more depressed lol. My last psychologist was nice and I liked her but my insurance stopped paying for her after five visits so I was like... okay, I guess I’m better now? Bye...
Oh, I might be mixing up the terms, my friend I mentioned actually mainly does therapy type stuff and doesn't prescribe so maybe she's a psychologist. Anyway yeah lol that doesn't surprise me too much and is kind of closer to the kind of mental image I get when I think of "prescription happy America". That does sound fucked though.



...+3g more kratom since earlier. 40mg amphet in the morning does seem to go down a treat, gonna try to avoid redosing today, if I can. 10mg was a bit low to feel much of anything for me... yesterday tried 3 x 30mg (intending only 2, but, degeneracy... and the redose amplified the moreishness a lot, and the 30mg wasn't even quite enough to overcome my general intermittent apathy towards doing anything useful. 40mg so far seems to be a sweet spot though. Again this stuff is supposedly only 80% pure but just using apparent weight for simplicity.
 

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Im a genius, asked my last bupre seller if he wants to trade alcohol for bupre and now Im trading 5 packs of cigs to 4mg

HELL FUCKING YEAH
 

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Also, @Vastness , the field of psychiatry is completely separated from psychology here. Your average psychiatrist charges you out the ass for a 15 min visit where they barely get to know you then they pick an SSRI out of the bucket and tell you to come back in a month. It’s a fucking racquet. Psychologists you pay a little less and they’ll actually sit and talk to you for an hour and have no legal prescribing powers.

I have a very strong loathing for those who practice psychiatry in the US, they tend to be narcissistic assholes. Think Frasier... but without the comedic relief.

I’ve met some pretty shitty psychologists too but they tend to be friendly in general as it’s their job to actually talk to you. Had one as a teen tell me I was depressed because I needed to listen to my parents and do my homework for school like a good boy though: that just made me more depressed lol. My last psychologist was nice and I liked her but my insurance stopped paying for her after five visits so I was like... okay, I guess I’m better now? Bye...
Oh fuck yeah dude I was given trazadone and seroquel like 3 separate times and told to meditate. Best rx I could wrangle was gabapentin and that was in rehab. The psychiatrist I went to afterwards wanted to take me off and I let him in an effort to work with him. He was a moron though and I stopped seeing him like 3 visits in. I lost my faith in "professionals" and just took it into my own hands. I might try again though just to see what I can get. I know a lot of people in my hometown that get both adderall and benzos from their doctors by just simply suggesting them.
 
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