Opioids Parafluorobutyrfentanyl (PFBF)

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

It is already gone from the only source I know of, I ordered some last week, thankfully, should receive it shortly. I'll give you guys my impressions, I don't think we'll see this one back, its kind of a one time thing and I only had money enough for the smallest increment Anyways, I expect it today or if not , monday which would suck. It's difficult to find info about it, I'll be very cautious, take one dose and even if it seems to do nothing, not take another right away. A good 2 hours in between dose(s) for sure. I would expect this to last 30 minutes if it is like fentanyl when smoked?

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Opiate analogs of morphine and thebaine have been around a while. The three that come to mind in similarity to oxycodone are hydrocodone (Vicodin), and the two related -morphones, oxymorphone (Opana) being the strongest.

Just curious, as we don't have Oxymorphone in Canada, but have pills with up to 30mg of Hydromorphone that can be turned IR easily, would you say Oxymorphone's IV rush (obtained from the 10mg IR Opanas, I know the way the extended release ones don't allow to make IR easily like HM Contins, which are just beads in a gelcap) is strong than Dilaudid? I strongly doubt it, American posters here and friends here and elsewhere would have told me so, but nope, HM always wins in the ungodly rush it produces. Would love to hear it from somebody who * MIGHT* have IV'd both.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

It's a wonderful opioid IME. I've had a self-made mixture (0.4 mg/ spray) for 4-5 months. I have no tolerance, and 2-3 sprays got me nodding pretty hard, but I would need to re-dose every 20-30 minutes. I had a pretty nasty heroin habit over 15 years ago, and after binging on PFBF for a couple days in a row and feeling that old familiar sickness, I've decided I'm done with this one…too tempting and too much to lose.

Yeah, I'm on suboxone, I would still be on methadone due to its painkilling abilities being way better, but it caused all sorts of nastiness that were kinda stepping stones (first the methadone turns me into a fat shit couch slouch, gained 80lbs, then I wanted to do exercise and was unable to, almost unable to get out of my bed.
So I got a complete blood panel test done and I had dangerously low testosterone. I start using the testosterone, 1 shot SC a week, I develop a tiny case of manboobs, the problem is mostly the cysts under the skin hurt like a motherfucker. Get put on an anti-estrogen (like I should have been from the start apparently), now all painful cysts are gone, a mass remains. Had to have 2 different ultrasounds to get a second opinion as to the mass a bit below to the left of my left nipple and a goddamn mammography, when the tech for that asked me how I was, I said, how do you think, really depressed of being a guy in this room?" Tried to comfort me the best she could. So anyway, switching to suboxone, I lost back 25 lbs or so, but I'm still way fatter than I was, my testosterone is higher but still too low, but I won't take more and I even lowered the dose myself and keep taking the anti-estrogens. My pain issues in my neck and jaw are somewhat controlled by bupe (strange, but its not known not to happen for bupe to work better than tylenol...)

But I want a real deal painkiller, and I was told that if I hurt myself real bad or need invasive surgery at the clinic, to tell I am on suboxone because i'll need a hefty dose of IV fentanyl.

I have this coming in a 0,6mg per spray bottle myself, we'll see how it goes, I didn't take sub yesterday and not today yet, I expect to get it today. So it lasts 30 minutes or so like I expected, a shame. But I have a script to some 50mg hydroxyzine pills here, it's for not abusing my benzos, works great at putting me at sleep without reaching for the diazepam too quick, and it had one hell of a synergy with dilaudid and HM Contins, they actually script the stuff so people can take less of a given opioid to reach th same effects, analgesic-sparing effects or whatever it says it is called on the wiki for hydroxyzine.

 

[sekio]

Are the fentanyls stable compounds - what is their shelflife like?

I think they're pretty incredibly stable. Amides are hard to break.

This compound as well as acetyl and butyryl fentanyl are also federally illegal in the US as well as Canada and UK. I would be suprised if they weren't illegal in the UN too - fentanyl analogues are old school chemistry and were the first drugs to inspire analogue acts.

 

[3dempty]

I had access to fentanyl citrate which was the best opioid or opiate I ever tried 5 mg equals 80.mgs of oxy 80's. It was such a minute amount to get one fixed that I overdosed 5 times and 2 of my friends I had to the ambulance for. Learned it is not always better to share. Now. My day consists of 5-8 Fox's of beta-thioxy-fentanyl, it comes on fast and leaves just as quick. Personally the citrate is my favorite things. Rc. Opiates sound like they have to suck to be legal.
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[LiteWerk]

Sounds interesting..would try these been on bupe for about 16 months or so (usually 4-8mg plugged now) but they still kinda scare me...i know a site that has the BF-fent, they will have it, then run out and have it again..the only one I would feel confortable trying is the one that the dose is in the actual MG range, think it's Acetyl-fent, but damn the only site I found has BF...but anyway also off topic but on one of the episodes of that show Drugs Inc. they showed the dealers baggin up all their dope then he pulled out a big bag of white powder and said it was pure morphine and he cuts it with that to make it stronger...I have a strong feeling that was some kind of fent, not morphine.

That episode of Drugs Inc was Baltimore. I thought the same thing when i saw it. They called it black market morphine, but it was very likely a fent-deriv like AF or BF. Off topic, sorry.

Will be doing some research in the coming week. Will do a nice TR for harm reduction purposes.

 

[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

I consider myself lucky that I never ended up on methadone. I helped my boyfriend get off of it…took months, and it looked a thousand times harder than kicking heroin, which I never would've thought possible before witnessing it. It sounds like you've been to hell and back….the PFBF might offer you some temporary relief, but that's about it.

Methadone was really easy to get off of the way I did it, plus, I didn't go to those ridiculous dosages I see some people going to around here, 250mg, what? The most I got on was 60mg, then dropped 2-3mg every month, then when I got to 47mg, the doc knowing i wanted to get rid of the done because of the side effects, pushed it a bit there, scripted me 44mg for 2 weeks, then 39mg for 2 weeks. It was always fine, I can say I had benzos the whole time help me. Even the 48 hours without methadone before showing up for outpatient induction at the clinic was not too bad. They first gave me 4mg of suboxone, stayed 4 hours to verify if I was gonna go through the most likely horrendou protracted withdrawals, didn't, I know it says to stop at 30mg everywhere but all my docs at the clinic said it wasn't necessarily true, then the next day I came back once more, for another 4 hours, that time given 8mg. Left with a 10mg script.

I mostly want this thing because i'm hurting, and hurting while on suboxone means you're really screwed, unless it's like a headache and just tylenol will do the job (I surprisingly have learned to appreciate the stuff for these damn bupe headaches, before that I only thought it had value against fever when having the flu). I was told that if I ever get hurt or need surgery I'd get put on fentanyl. So I'm testing the waters here, as if to say. I got the vial but since i didn't friday, i took my subs saturday and sunday, so no use to try it right now. Maybe tonight.

 

[LiteWerk]

I mostly want this thing because i'm hurting, and hurting while on suboxone means you're really screwed, unless it's like a headache and just tylenol will do the job (I surprisingly have learned to appreciate the stuff for these damn bupe headaches, before that I only thought it had value against fever when having the flu). I was told that if I ever get hurt or need surgery I'd get put on fentanyl. So I'm testing the waters here, as if to say. I got the vial but since i didn't friday, i took my subs saturday and sunday, so no use to try it right now. Maybe tonight.

Salutations! If you would be so kind as to post the experience... as we are interested im gaining some insight in terms of dosage, ROA, onset, as well as effectiveness after bupe. Thanks so much!

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[THE_REAL_OBLIVION]

Salutations! If you would be so kind as to post the experience... as we are interested im gaining some insight in terms of dosage, ROA, onset, as well as effectiveness after bupe. Thanks so much!

ʟɪтⅇωøʀĸ

Salutations! If you would be so kind as to post the experience... as we are interested im gaining some insight in terms of dosage, ROA, onset, as well as effectiveness after bupe. Thanks so much!

ʟɪтⅇωøʀĸ

Hi there,

Yesterday night, I ended up testing it, and I only ended up with a headache, I guess the suboxone was still going too strong. As for today, I gotta say the spray I got (100x0,6mg) is wisely low-dosed. I need about 5 shots (but lets consider I still have that additive effect of suboxone going in me) to get to a calm head space and relaxation that makes me forget to pick in the benzo jar, which is good) and also a painkilling effect, that damn neck and left jaw area of mine is at a 2/10 when normally at a 4-5/10 on suboxone, probably at a 8 without any opiates, I wouldn't know anymore, been a while since I got on ORT (2 years and a half). I can feel it coming up, it's not euphoric like what I think a shot of 16mg of Dilaudid would do right now (it'd go through, I "tested" waters a bit foolishly last year, only because I had an insanely good deal on 4mg dillies).

I've taken 20 shots today, as the compound seems to last 20-30 minutes max, and please wait people, it doesn't come in instantly. Give it 5 minutes. And if you're not on suboxone, do not take 5 shots, take 1 and wait 30 minutes. If you have a headache, do not use, I did last night when using it in vain because of the suboxone and I had to take some Mobic (only NSAID that doesn't turn my intestines into fire, although these days with all the constipation, a script of 800mg advils could be a good thing for my guts, just kidding, I hate ibuprofen with a passion, especially since the other GP I'd see when my main GP was unavailable) would script me 800mg advils, 60 of them, and a mere 12 30mg codeine/300mg apap Empracets and if I asked for the quantity the pain and maxilofacial (jaw) specialist I used to see who retired, of Empracets, she'd say "that's the max dose you'll get of opioids from me, ever, 10% of this stuff converts into morphine you know!"

I won't take more though and take only 4mg of suboxone (reg dose : 12mg) if I get uncomfortable in the evening. Then tomorrow, things should be much easier, and my testing info more valuable.

 

[LiteWerk]

Hi there,

Yesterday night, I ended up testing it, and I only ended up with a headache, I guess the suboxone was still going too strong. As for today, I gotta say the spray I got (100x0,6mg) is wisely low-dosed. I need about 5 shots (but lets consider I still have that additive effect of suboxone going in me) to get to a calm head space and relaxation that makes me forget to pick in the benzo jar, which is good) and also a painkilling effect, that damn neck and left jaw area of mine is at a 2/10 when normally at a 4-5/10 on suboxone, probably at a 8 without any opiates, I wouldn't know anymore, been a while since I got on ORT (2 years and a half). I can feel it coming up, it's not euphoric like what I think a shot of 16mg of Dilaudid would do right now (it'd go through, I "tested" waters a bit foolishly last year, only because I had an insanely good deal on 4mg dillies).

I've taken 20 shots today, as the compound seems to last 20-30 minutes max, and please wait people, it doesn't come in instantly. Give it 5 minutes. And if you're not on suboxone, do not take 5 shots, take 1 and wait 30 minutes. If you have a headache, do not use, I did last night when using it in vain because of the suboxone and I had to take some Mobic (only NSAID that doesn't turn my intestines into fire, although these days with all the constipation, a script of 800mg advils could be a good thing for my guts, just kidding, I hate ibuprofen with a passion, especially since the other GP I'd see when my main GP was unavailable) would script me 800mg advils, 60 of them, and a mere 12 30mg codeine/300mg apap Empracets and if I asked for the quantity the pain and maxilofacial (jaw) specialist I used to see who retired, of Empracets, she'd say "that's the max dose you'll get of opioids from me, ever, 10% of this stuff converts into morphine you know!"

I won't take more though and take only 4mg of suboxone (reg dose : 12mg) if I get uncomfortable in the evening. Then tomorrow, things should be much easier, and my testing info more valuable.

Hi back at you! Thanks so much for the interesting share. I have been super interested in this, as I have been seeing these nasal sprays popping up. I too am on suboxone and I think I am going to hold off on ordering. On a semi-related note, the u-47700 I tested this past week was beautiful. Breakthru at about 12mg when I used IM.. The pain relief and euphoria were great, but like you mentioned with PFBF, the intense part only lasted a half hour (*maybe 45 mins max) so I had to IM or IV every hour, give or take, when I was awake, and redose once during "sleep". I suppose I should post my full research with this compound, as I am very temped to acquire more (I am back at my usual dose of suboxone, 4 to 8mg per day) Cheers!

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[crunkazcanbe]

Hi back at you! Thanks so much for the interesting share. I have been super interested in this, as I have been seeing these nasal sprays popping up. I too am on suboxone and I think I am going to hold off on ordering. On a semi-related note, the u-47700 I tested this past week was beautiful. Breakthru at about 12mg when I used IM.. The pain relief and euphoria were great, but like you mentioned with PFBF, the intense part only lasted a half hour (*maybe 45 mins max) so I had to IM or IV every hour, give or take, when I was awake, and redose once during "sleep". I suppose I should post my full research with this compound, as I am very temped to acquire more (I am back at my usual dose of suboxone, 4 to 8mg per day) Cheers!

ʟɪтⅇωøʀĸ

Compared to about 30mg of Oxycodone man how many of the 0.6mg nose squirts would I need ?

 

[RivieraLife]

Originally Posted by crunkazcanbe
Compared to about 30mg of Oxycodone man how many of the 0.6mg nose squirts would I need ?




If you have a tolerance for 30mg Oxy, I would say try one squirt up the nose, and for your first go just wait for it to run its course (that takes roughly half an hour, up to 45 minutes if you're very lucky and haven't done any opiates/opioids for a while).


For your first time, even though it will have probably kicked in within ten minutes, it's worth waiting the 30-45 minutes just to make sure your metabolism isn't bizarre, and nothing bad happens, just in case it kicks in late for whatever reason. It's better to wait for 30-45 minutes of your life not having a very strong nod to make sure you're safe, than to end up unconscious or dead for being impatient - and it's not exactly an extremely long time!


After you've tested it once, if you liked how a single spray felt, stick with that and next time you dose don't increase it - wait until it's run its course to redose, ideally - like I said before, tolerance increases crazily fast.
If it wasn't quite enough, try two, and follow the same process of waiting until it's run its course, then stick with two, because like I said, tolerance goes up really fast. Aaaand so on and so on.


I hope I wasn't too late with my advice, and hope that was helpful to you. Be careful though, it is pretty strong in even low doses for low-medium tolerance users.

The formatting got really fucked up when I edited this, so I'll try and sort it out when I can. I can't un-bold things and shit's gone a bit pete tong. The red and blue font is as it should be, but some other stuff just looks wrong as I had to copy and paste, when I selected "edit" it just gave me a blank post to work with

So here's one experience with PFBF, in a trip-report kinda format - If this is too long for you, skip to the end after the blue marks { } for a summary. The PFBF parts are relevant and it'll give you guys some info on how it combines with other things. However, DO NOT repeat what is between these marks { }
I am just describing our experience for reference purposes. It is very dangerous, and in hindsight we were idiots - we were celebrating a friend's birthday and we got carried away.


Though it will look like we didn't, we took care (well, I did) making sure that each dose had fully kicked in before taking any more, redosing with low doses, and we didn't take anything if we were already nodding, or our respiratory or heart rate was slow.


We have tolerances to alcohol, benzos, and opiates/opioids (2/3 of us are prescribed daily painkillers for chronic pain). I'm not trying to brag about having high tolerances, I know it's a bad thing, and I'm ashamed of myself for it. I just wanted to give you guys some idea of why we didn't die from the following combination.


Story of idiocy begins {
Two friends and I left the UK for a while, so we got a 250 x 0.6mg bottle - we've had PFBF before and really enjoyed it, so figured it'd be a perfect way to celebrate. We also had 0.3g of some pretty nice #3 smack, a few 1mg Clonazolam pellets, and on the second day we got some whiskey (I'm not kidding when I say don't do this, obviously we're fucking morons).


The first night there was just me and the birthday boy cause our other friend hadn't arrived yet, so we started off by smoking a bit of the smack (about 20mg each) which was obviously lovely. I remember checking the amount of time we waited before we dosed again, but I can't recall now.


We weren't nodding, we just had a good buzz, and after that wait we had a couple more toots of 5-10mg each until we got where we wanted to be. When we were sober again, we decided to go hang out with some other people, so we took the PFBF with us, and popped 0.5mg of Clonazolam each on the way under the tongue.


Once the Clonazolam had kicked in (my favourite benzo by far now, blows valium and etizolam out of the water in terms of anxiolytic effects & hypnotic effects, but I digress) we were feeling pretty good, so we decided to start off with a single squirt up the nose of the PFBF.


After about 5-10 minutes it kicked in. We weren't nodding - we started with one squirt to make sure the batch wasn't too strong. We upped our doses with another squirt, and when that one kicked in we were extremely itchy indeed. Antihistamines of the non-sedative variety are a must, unless you're a bit masochistic and enjoy the itching


Though I wouldn't suggest this to anyone else unless you've tried it before and have a tolerance built up, we were fine with having another - 3 squirts were working at once.


For the rest of the evening we continued to redose as the previous one wore off, so we went through quite a bit of it. When we got back, we went back to smoking smack just to get a buzz, occasionally doing a squirt of PFBF to get a nod on, taking a break, etc. By the time it got to about 7am we just stopped doing the PFBF altogether and smoked the H until we nodded off completely.


I'll give a general summary of the first part of the second day. We got a 70cl bottle of whiskey and between about 3pm-4am drank half between the two of us. We took 1mg Clonazolam each, and smoked the rest of the H between 7pm-12pm (there was only about a point left).


While we smoked the H, occasionally we would have a squirt of PFBF, but on both days we were always careful to check our respiratory and heart rates - if they were on the low side, we would hold off on taking any more of either. Needless to say, we repeatedly nodded quite hard - we werent particularly drunk, but we were fucking high, pretty benzed out, very noticably so.


When the H was gone, we just kept dosing PFBF every 30-40 minutes, and the effects stayed pretty consistent, though it was gradually taking more to have the same effect. I was surprised by how quickly our tolerance rose. By around 6am when we nodded off to sleep, we'd gone through about half of the PFBF in two days.


Despite my attempts to keep his use within the realms of sensibility (seeing as we had already been dicking around and not being very sensible at all, quite dangerously combining booze, benzos, H and PFBF), the birthday boy took more than me when I wasn't looking and spent a lot of his time nodding, on the verge of danger. I spent a lot of my time looking after him, he was lucky he didn't hurt himself and that I was there to check his breathing and help him walk around when he needed to. I accept that I was also irresponsible, however he did take it too far (in my opinion).


On the third and final day, our buddy finally arrived to join us and we went to a party with a bunch of people we didn't know very well. We drank the other 35cl of whiskey between the two of us that had first got there between 7-9pm (I only had two drinks out of it, birthday boy drank the rest) and didn't take any Clonazolam for now. We smoked a shit-ton of cigs. I dunno how much our newly-arrived friend drank, quite a lot though. I had 3 more drinks after that (only 4% ABV though), birthday boy I have no idea, he was wasted, having trouble standing, and he was chatting an awful lot of shit!


Over the course of the night we repeated the previous pattern of redosing the PFBF every 40 minutes with our friend, but this time we were doing 2 sprays at a time. We had to smoke cigs, really, because we needed an excuse to stand up - sitting down, it was really difficult not to nod off and be obvious, and there was no chance of us functioning well enough to dance. While we were standing and smoking, we just looked drunk.


We went home around 1am, and we held off on the PFBF until 4, just drinking and smoking. At 4am we took 0.5mg Clonazolam each, and once that had kicked in (after about half an hour) we re-started the pattern of dosing two squirts every 30-40 minutes, so we spent most of our time nodding.


We were having difficulty both speaking and understanding each other (particularly birthday boy, who was pretty much incoherent). We kept losing track of what we were saying half way through a sentence. Nodding made dexterity, motor control and balance almost nonexistent, we kept spilling things, dropping things, breaking things and stumbling about. Typing was just not possible, nor was paying attention to anything we tried to watch.


While nodding, I would dream vividly - I found that I would see myself in a different place to where I was, see and hear people that were not there and imagine that the people that weren't there, or the people that were there were saying bizarre, nonsensical things. I believe this is what the others were experiencing too, because all of us kept also saying nonsensical things - badly formed sentences, completely out of context sentences (based on what we were at least attempting to talk about) or things that were just completely outlandish.


Apologies for the length, but I wanted to describe what both having a good time indoors chillin, and at a party was like on Parafluorobutyrfentanyl.


} story of idiocy ends.


I feel I should stress again that combining PFBF with benzos, alcohol, or other opiates was a really bad idea. You really shouldn't do it, and we shouldn't have either - a very large number of drug-related deaths are down to poly-drug abuse - it was a very dumb thing to do. Even if you have tolerance, don't have the same misconception that we did that it would be entirely safe (I had to make sure the birthday boy didn't end up unconscious or dead). Be careful, it is a powerful drug and should be treated with more respect than we treated it.


Summary of basic information after this time and other times I've tried it:
- (These timings are my findings, your mileage may vary) Onset: 2-10 minutes, Duration: 30-45 minutes depending on tolerance
- Best ROA: Insufflation for the fairly quick onset, and a good length of effect (though ROA doesn't seem to affect it much) - Plugging is not worth the effort, it's difficult to do with such a small amount of liquid (perhaps you could add more liquid to it but I can't see it being much better). Sublingual is no more or less effective from what I can tell, so you can do it but it's not exactly pleasant in taste. I have read vaping might work, so I'll give it a go. I have not tried injecting. None of the ROAs I tried have hurt, the most recent batch I got stung a little but it wasn't anything that could really be described as pain.
- No immediate rush, just a gradual (though still fairly quick) progression from sober to quite fucked up


Effects - negative:
- Respiratory depression
- Shit-for-brains (memory loss is pretty likely, good idea to write down the times you dosed at)
- Intense itching - take non-sedative antihistamines though because potentiation is just not necessary
- Headaches (noticed only in the birthday boy, which is odd as I usually get them from Fentanyl but I am okay with PFBF) so be wary of this
- Nausea - especially on the first try, or in high doses, there have been a couple of times where I have felt sick or actually vomited
- Sometimes the auditory hallucinations are a little annoying, I've had some where they've sounded like children saying creepy shit. I might just be going insane.


Effects - positive:
- Euphoria
- Drooping eyelids and nodding into dream land, complete inability to hold your own head up, and falling asleep
- Pain relief
- Tactile sensations (cuddles, hair touching, snuggling under blankets) were very pleasurable
- Smoking tobacco is fantastic
- Feelings of love and compassion towards others
- Worries about anything were non-existent
- Pleasant auditory hallucinations of almost psychill-like sounds.


Effects - neutral:
- While nodding, you may find yourself hearing nonsense from people who are/aren't there, and saying nonsense yourself
- It's difficult to speak, and to understand being spoken to

 

[crunkazcanbe]

Originally Posted by crunkazcanbe
Compared to about 30mg of Oxycodone man how many of the 0.6mg nose squirts would I need ?




If you have a tolerance for 30mg Oxy, I would say try one squirt up the nose, and for your first go just wait for it to run its course (that takes roughly half an hour, up to 45 minutes if you're very lucky and haven't done any opiates/opioids for a while).


For your first time, even though it will have probably kicked in within ten minutes, it's worth waiting the 30-45 minutes just to make sure your metabolism isn't bizarre, and nothing bad happens, just in case it kicks in late for whatever reason. It's better to wait for 30-45 minutes of your life not having a very strong nod to make sure you're safe, than to end up unconscious or dead for being impatient - and it's not exactly an extremely long time!


After you've tested it once, if you liked how a single spray felt, stick with that and next time you dose don't increase it - wait until it's run its course to redose, ideally - like I said before, tolerance increases crazily fast.
If it wasn't quite enough, try two, and follow the same process of waiting until it's run its course, then stick with two, because like I said, tolerance goes up really fast. Aaaand so on and so on.


I hope I wasn't too late with my advice, and hope that was helpful to you. Be careful though, it is pretty strong in even low doses for low-medium tolerance users.

The formatting got really fucked up when I edited this, so I'll try and sort it out when I can. I can't un-bold things and shit's gone a bit pete tong. The red and blue font is as it should be, but some other stuff just looks wrong as I had to copy and paste, when I selected "edit" it just gave me a blank post to work with

So here's one experience with PFBF, in a trip-report kinda format - If this is too long for you, skip to the end after the blue marks { } for a summary. The PFBF parts are relevant and it'll give you guys some info on how it combines with other things. However, DO NOT repeat what is between these marks { }
I am just describing our experience for reference purposes. It is very dangerous, and in hindsight we were idiots - we were celebrating a friend's birthday and we got carried away.


Though it will look like we didn't, we took care (well, I did) making sure that each dose had fully kicked in before taking any more, redosing with low doses, and we didn't take anything if we were already nodding, or our respiratory or heart rate was slow.


We have tolerances to alcohol, benzos, and opiates/opioids (2/3 of us are prescribed daily painkillers for chronic pain). I'm not trying to brag about having high tolerances, I know it's a bad thing, and I'm ashamed of myself for it. I just wanted to give you guys some idea of why we didn't die from the following combination.


Story of idiocy begins {
Two friends and I left the UK for a while, so we got a 250 x 0.6mg bottle - we've had PFBF before and really enjoyed it, so figured it'd be a perfect way to celebrate. We also had 0.3g of some pretty nice #3 smack, a few 1mg Clonazolam pellets, and on the second day we got some whiskey (I'm not kidding when I say don't do this, obviously we're fucking morons).


The first night there was just me and the birthday boy cause our other friend hadn't arrived yet, so we started off by smoking a bit of the smack (about 20mg each) which was obviously lovely. I remember checking the amount of time we waited before we dosed again, but I can't recall now.


We weren't nodding, we just had a good buzz, and after that wait we had a couple more toots of 5-10mg each until we got where we wanted to be. When we were sober again, we decided to go hang out with some other people, so we took the PFBF with us, and popped 0.5mg of Clonazolam each on the way under the tongue.


Once the Clonazolam had kicked in (my favourite benzo by far now, blows valium and etizolam out of the water in terms of anxiolytic effects & hypnotic effects, but I digress) we were feeling pretty good, so we decided to start off with a single squirt up the nose of the PFBF.


After about 5-10 minutes it kicked in. We weren't nodding - we started with one squirt to make sure the batch wasn't too strong. We upped our doses with another squirt, and when that one kicked in we were extremely itchy indeed. Antihistamines of the non-sedative variety are a must, unless you're a bit masochistic and enjoy the itching


Though I wouldn't suggest this to anyone else unless you've tried it before and have a tolerance built up, we were fine with having another - 3 squirts were working at once.


For the rest of the evening we continued to redose as the previous one wore off, so we went through quite a bit of it. When we got back, we went back to smoking smack just to get a buzz, occasionally doing a squirt of PFBF to get a nod on, taking a break, etc. By the time it got to about 7am we just stopped doing the PFBF altogether and smoked the H until we nodded off completely.


I'll give a general summary of the first part of the second day. We got a 70cl bottle of whiskey and between about 3pm-4am drank half between the two of us. We took 1mg Clonazolam each, and smoked the rest of the H between 7pm-12pm (there was only about a point left).


While we smoked the H, occasionally we would have a squirt of PFBF, but on both days we were always careful to check our respiratory and heart rates - if they were on the low side, we would hold off on taking any more of either. Needless to say, we repeatedly nodded quite hard - we werent particularly drunk, but we were fucking high, pretty benzed out, very noticably so.


When the H was gone, we just kept dosing PFBF every 30-40 minutes, and the effects stayed pretty consistent, though it was gradually taking more to have the same effect. I was surprised by how quickly our tolerance rose. By around 6am when we nodded off to sleep, we'd gone through about half of the PFBF in two days.


Despite my attempts to keep his use within the realms of sensibility (seeing as we had already been dicking around and not being very sensible at all, quite dangerously combining booze, benzos, H and PFBF), the birthday boy took more than me when I wasn't looking and spent a lot of his time nodding, on the verge of danger. I spent a lot of my time looking after him, he was lucky he didn't hurt himself and that I was there to check his breathing and help him walk around when he needed to. I accept that I was also irresponsible, however he did take it too far (in my opinion).


On the third and final day, our buddy finally arrived to join us and we went to a party with a bunch of people we didn't know very well. We drank the other 35cl of whiskey between the two of us that had first got there between 7-9pm (I only had two drinks out of it, birthday boy drank the rest) and didn't take any Clonazolam for now. We smoked a shit-ton of cigs. I dunno how much our newly-arrived friend drank, quite a lot though. I had 3 more drinks after that (only 4% ABV though), birthday boy I have no idea, he was wasted, having trouble standing, and he was chatting an awful lot of shit!


Over the course of the night we repeated the previous pattern of redosing the PFBF every 40 minutes with our friend, but this time we were doing 2 sprays at a time. We had to smoke cigs, really, because we needed an excuse to stand up - sitting down, it was really difficult not to nod off and be obvious, and there was no chance of us functioning well enough to dance. While we were standing and smoking, we just looked drunk.


We went home around 1am, and we held off on the PFBF until 4, just drinking and smoking. At 4am we took 0.5mg Clonazolam each, and once that had kicked in (after about half an hour) we re-started the pattern of dosing two squirts every 30-40 minutes, so we spent most of our time nodding.


We were having difficulty both speaking and understanding each other (particularly birthday boy, who was pretty much incoherent). We kept losing track of what we were saying half way through a sentence. Nodding made dexterity, motor control and balance almost nonexistent, we kept spilling things, dropping things, breaking things and stumbling about. Typing was just not possible, nor was paying attention to anything we tried to watch.


While nodding, I would dream vividly - I found that I would see myself in a different place to where I was, see and hear people that were not there and imagine that the people that weren't there, or the people that were there were saying bizarre, nonsensical things. I believe this is what the others were experiencing too, because all of us kept also saying nonsensical things - badly formed sentences, completely out of context sentences (based on what we were at least attempting to talk about) or things that were just completely outlandish.


Apologies for the length, but I wanted to describe what both having a good time indoors chillin, and at a party was like on Parafluorobutyrfentanyl.


} story of idiocy ends.


I feel I should stress again that combining PFBF with benzos, alcohol, or other opiates was a really bad idea. You really shouldn't do it, and we shouldn't have either - a very large number of drug-related deaths are down to poly-drug abuse - it was a very dumb thing to do. Even if you have tolerance, don't have the same misconception that we did that it would be entirely safe (I had to make sure the birthday boy didn't end up unconscious or dead). Be careful, it is a powerful drug and should be treated with more respect than we treated it.


Summary of basic information after this time and other times I've tried it:
- (These timings are my findings, your mileage may vary) Onset: 2-10 minutes, Duration: 30-45 minutes depending on tolerance
- Best ROA: Insufflation for the fairly quick onset, and a good length of effect (though ROA doesn't seem to affect it much) - Plugging is not worth the effort, it's difficult to do with such a small amount of liquid (perhaps you could add more liquid to it but I can't see it being much better). Sublingual is no more or less effective from what I can tell, so you can do it but it's not exactly pleasant in taste. I have read vaping might work, so I'll give it a go. I have not tried injecting. None of the ROAs I tried have hurt, the most recent batch I got stung a little but it wasn't anything that could really be described as pain.
- No immediate rush, just a gradual (though still fairly quick) progression from sober to quite fucked up


Effects - negative:
- Respiratory depression
- Shit-for-brains (memory loss is pretty likely, good idea to write down the times you dosed at)
- Intense itching - take non-sedative antihistamines though because potentiation is just not necessary
- Headaches (noticed only in the birthday boy, which is odd as I usually get them from Fentanyl but I am okay with PFBF) so be wary of this
- Nausea - especially on the first try, or in high doses, there have been a couple of times where I have felt sick or actually vomited
- Sometimes the auditory hallucinations are a little annoying, I've had some where they've sounded like children saying creepy shit. I might just be going insane.


Effects - positive:
- Euphoria
- Drooping eyelids and nodding into dream land, complete inability to hold your own head up, and falling asleep
- Pain relief
- Tactile sensations (cuddles, hair touching, snuggling under blankets) were very pleasurable
- Smoking tobacco is fantastic
- Feelings of love and compassion towards others
- Worries about anything were non-existent
- Pleasant auditory hallucinations of almost psychill-like sounds.


Effects - neutral:
- While nodding, you may find yourself hearing nonsense from people who are/aren't there, and saying nonsense yourself
- It's difficult to speak, and to understand being spoken to

Man I love this stuff . Instead of taking 180mg Oxy aka 6 30mg roxies I take 3 90mg , and top it off with a couple squirts of this stuff , and I am in true opiate heaven . I nodded so hard last night I woke up with drool all over me in my chair with my foot in my bowl of cereal . This saves me from eating all my roxies up every month .

 

[Space-face]

Been 5 or so years since I posted, thought I'd get a new account to write this one up as I'm back in the boshing novel drugs game :-D

Just got the 100x0.6mg dosed spray, very happy with the effects of this one. Only other fent I've tried is the patches and this blows that out of the water in terms of euphoria. I have a almost no tolerance and 2.4mg was getting me to a very nice place (if the dosing is to be trusted).

Very chatty and energising even in high dosages, it's just a shame about the half life. Also tried squirting onto rolling tobacco, this ROA + nicotine gave an intense but very shortlived rush. Opiate crack if there ever was one.

It synergies amazingly with weed, more so than any other opioid I've taken. Half a spliff and I could barely move because of the body buzz.

Not sure if I'm feeling tolerance building at the end of 100 spray bottle. Would tolerance build more rapidly with repeated cycles of dosing then sobering up or or staying high for extended periods (like on the patches)?? I'm guessing the former.

 

[crunkazcanbe]

Been 5 or so years since I posted, thought I'd get a new account to write this one up as I'm back in the boshing novel drugs game :-D

Just got the 100x0.6mg dosed spray, very happy with the effects of this one. Only other fent I've tried is the patches and this blows that out of the water in terms of euphoria. I have a almost no tolerance and 2.4mg was getting me to a very nice place (if the dosing is to be trusted).

Very chatty and energising even in high dosages, it's just a shame about the half life. Also tried squirting onto rolling tobacco, this ROA + nicotine gave an intense but very shortlived rush. Opiate crack if there ever was one.

It synergies amazingly with weed, more so than any other opioid I've taken. Half a spliff and I could barely move because of the body buzz.

Not sure if I'm feeling tolerance building at the end of 100 spray bottle. Would tolerance build more rapidly with repeated cycles of dosing then sobering up or or staying high for extended periods (like on the patches)?? I'm guessing the former.

I do 3 squirts each nose . Although I bought 250 x 0.6mg the 2 pack I bought 2 of them ,and thats 4 250 squirt bottles . 6 squirts is even better then 6 30mg roxies . I usually take 180mg ir oxycodone ,and 6 squirts of this blows it out of the water with euphoria ,and everything . Yesterday between smoking cigs Newports ,and 6mg xanax and about 18 squirts of this i was high the whole day from this . I get 240 30mg roxies a month ,and today thought I would skip Parafluorobutyrfentanyl ,and take my usual 180mg ir oxycodone 3 times a day ,and no lie I could not feel a thing from the oxy not one hint other then relief of withdrawals so after 8 hours of no oxy today I took 3 squirts of parafluorobutyrfentanyl in each nostrial ,and I am right back to where I like to be high as a kit . Just come out of a 2 hour nod no lie . I still feel it a bit just the after glow feeling pretty nice . I will wait a couple hours more now ,and take 210mg oxy this time ,and see if I can feel my oxy once again. I think Parafluorobutyrfentanyl some how blocks the effects of other opiates . If i have to come off opiates I have plenty of benzos that help me tons for the withdrawls .

I will report back later ,and let you know if I can feel the 210mg of oxy . But my god man this is some scary shit if 6 squirts is better then 180mg of Oxy that is just crazy .



EDIT: well attempted 2 more times to catch a buzz with Oxycodone after using Parafluorobutyrfentanyl for awhile ,and I give up . I took 320mg of Oxy all in one go chewed up in my mouth and swallowed , with 0 buzz . This sux ,and I don't understand whats going on ;because the same 6 squirts of Parafluorobutyrfentanyl gets me right back to where I want to be . Its as if the MU receptors in the brain get used to the Parafluorobutyrfentanyl ,and don't like any other Opiate .

Is Parafluorobutyrfentanyl somehow staying in me even after the 1hour nod/high ,and blocking other Opiates from working some 8 hours later ? This kinda has me ticked ;because I love my Oxy ,and can no longer get a buzz from it . I will now go back to taking 180mg of my Oxycodone every 3-4 hours for a week or so ,and see if my opiate tolerance drops . Lets hope so .

 

[GarageFlower]

I'm looking into buying a bottle of PFBF 100 x 0.6

The only fentanyl I've had before have been the gel patches that you couldn't abuse and they were only low dosed so I didn't get much from them....I got two of them for free when buying some diazepam.

I have quite a big tolerance for Opi's now. I take around 180-300mg of Oxy a day. Call it 220mg on average. That doesn't do much for me either other than slight mood lift. I also take 60mg methadone daily.

The only way I can actuay feel opiates any more is if I IV them which I am trying to cut down my use on and have done successfully to around 1-2 a week.

Will I feel anything from this? If so how much would you reccomend starting with? Or would it be a waste with my tolerance?

Would just be really great to find something that will give me an opiate buzz without having to turn to the needle and heroin. Even a .3 shot of good gear only gives me a brief 30 second rush then that's it. Maybe sometimes I'll catch a lil nod, but it's rare. So yeah, would be nice to get an opiate high without putting holes in myself.

 

[crunkazcanbe]

I'm looking into buying a bottle of PFBF 100 x 0.6

The only fentanyl I've had before have been the gel patches that you couldn't abuse and they were only low dosed so I didn't get much from them....I got two of them for free when buying some diazepam.

I have quite a big tolerance for Opi's now. I take around 180-300mg of Oxy a day. Call it 220mg on average. That doesn't do much for me either other than slight mood lift. I also take 60mg methadone daily.

The only way I can actuay feel opiates any more is if I IV them which I am trying to cut down my use on and have done successfully to around 1-2 a week.

Will I feel anything from this? If so how much would you reccomend starting with? Or would it be a waste with my tolerance?

Would just be really great to find something that will give me an opiate buzz without having to turn to the needle and heroin. Even a .3 shot of good gear only gives me a brief 30 second rush then that's it. Maybe sometimes I'll catch a lil nod, but it's rare. So yeah, would be nice to get an opiate high without putting holes in myself.

This stuff will have you floored way more then Oxycodone man ,but it only last about 2 hours for me. I do about 3 squirts per nostril ,but I have a average of 540mg aday of Oxy Habit . So with you being about half my tolerance of Oxy I would start with 3 squirts . This will destroy your Opiate tolerance . I don't even feel the Oxy anymore ,and it only keeps me from getting sick . The weird thing is still the same 6 squirts of this gets me right back to nodding so apparently the tolerance to this stuff has not changed. It only has changed other opiates tolerances that I try . I don't know how ,but it has . So if you adore your Oxycodone like I once did I wouldn't touch this stuff.

BTW do you live in the USA ?

 

[GarageFlower]

I can easily take up to 500mg of Oxy as well man.

Sometimes 350mg IR and then chew up an OC 80mg & OC 20mg or snort if I am in the mood for putting something up my nose ha..

So yeah my tolerance is probably the same as yours man, but to be honest I don't get anything from massive doses of Oxy anyway apart from stopping withdrawals and a little mood lift I think it's more psychological than anything ha ... Oh I'm also on 60mg of methadone daily too!

The only time I feel Anything from an opiate is when I IV some heroin. As I said I only get the rush from that then don't feel any more unless it's really good H then I'll get a nod for an hour but that's rare even when people around me are nodding off the same gear in perfectly normal after that 30 second initial rush!

So like I said I don't really get much from the Oxy anyway it's more of a psychological thing really, the methadone stops me withdrawing. Think I'll take the plunge and order a bottle of 100x0.6mg . It will be on Tuesday when I get paid and it's coming from overseas so it will take a few days I imagine but hopefully I'll have it by Friday. I've never actually ordered any RC's from overseas they've all been from in the UK so I'm a bit nervous haha. It's a reputable vendor though and I've seen people on here getting orders through from them. I'm just anxious by nature. Need some benzos man which I'll be ordering Tuesday also!

And no man I'm from the UK.

I wish I was in the US with all your fancy benzos and opiate pills... We ain't got nothing like that over here, that's why I'm jumping at the chance to try a different opiate then heroin or oxycodone coz that's all I've got access to over here.

 

[crunkazcanbe]

I can easily take up to 500mg of Oxy as well man.

Sometimes 350mg IR and then chew up an OC 80mg & OC 20mg or snort if I am in the mood for putting something up my nose ha..

So yeah my tolerance is probability the same as yours man but to be honest I don't get anything from massive doses of Oxy anyway apart from stopping withdrawals and a little mood lift I think it's more psychological than anything ha ... Oh I'm also on 60mg of methadone daily too!

The only time I feel Anything from an opiate is when I IV some heroin. As I said I only get the rush from that then don't feel any more unless it's really good H then I'll get a nod for an hour but that's rare!

So like I said I don't really get much from the Oxy anyway it's more of a psychological thing really, the methadone stop me withdrawing. Think I'll take the plunge and order a bottle of 100x0.6mg

And no man I'm from the UK. I wish I was in the US with all your fancy benzos and opiate pills... We ain't got nothing like that over here that's why I'm jumI can easily take up to 500mg of Oxy as well man.

Sometimes 350mg IR and then chew up an OC 80mg & OC 20mg or snort if I am in the mood for putting something up my nose ha..

So yeah my tolerance is probability the same as yours man but to be honest I don't get anything from massive doses of Oxy anyway apart from stopping withdrawals and a little mood lift I think it's more psychological than anything ha ... Oh I'm also on 60mg of methadone daily too!

The only time I feel Anything from an opiate is when I IV some heroin. As I said I only get the rush from that then don't feel any more unless it's really good H then I'll get a nod for an hour but that's rare!

So like I said I don't really get much from the Oxy anyway it's more of a psychological thing really, the methadone stop me withdrawing. Think I'll take the plunge and order a bottle of 100x0.6mg

And no man I'm from the UK. I wish I was in the US with all your fancy benzos and opiate pills... We ain't got nothing like that over here that's why I'm jumping at the chance to try a novel opiate.... Something different than H or Oxy

Well at least you have OTC Codeine . My sister lives in the UK . Moved there to a boyfriend got married ,and has never came back . Last night I did 4 squirts per nostril ,and actually puked . Something I have not done since I first started opiates . Same here with the Oxycodone . I take 180mg IR every 3 hours to stay out of WD . I don't get anything from it anymore other then the WD being gone . This stuff works nice though ,and actually gets me high . Just wished it lasted longer . It last a little over a hour for me with another nice hour of a afterglow . BTW my tolarance is actually a bit higher then 540mg Oxycodone a day ;because I sometimes add in a couple 8 mg dilaudid snorted . I get 90 Xanax , 90 8mg hydromorphone , 240 30mg Oxycodone IR a month . (prescribed by a doctor)

I tend to run out of my meds very quick every month, and thats where this stuff comes into ,and its why I got it . If you try hard enough with PFBF you will catch a nod . Believe me .

 

[crunkazcanbe]

I would like to hear more from others who have used this opiate . I have seen many say they bought it ,and was going to post what they thought about it ,but never did . Are you guys still alive or did you OD on this stuff ?