I don't think Papoose entered this thread to claim that he experienced SS.
However, you entered the thread to argue that he did NOT...
My opinion is that the 'normal' MDMA experience, neurotoxicity, and Serotonin Syndrome ALL have an overlap.
You are correct - SS that occurs apart from MDMA use tends to resolve within 24-36 hours!
This is because MOST serotonergic substances - virtually ALL of them - are FAR less potent in the serotonin releasing capacities.
MDMA is labeled a 'neurotoxin' by countless research studies due to this very powerful property.
It goes a BIG step beyond that of SSRIs...
It reverses the transporter pump, instead of just halting certain ones.
So SS from medications and SS from MDMA are
drastically different experiences..
But again, Papoose is not here to claim he experienced SS.
He probably found this thread simply because he saw my post, and he found my guidance through a difficult time in his life to be of great value.
And he too feels the calling to warn others:
MDMA is far more dangerous than is widely believed.
The message is received Papoose, by someone.
I am glad that your experience with SS resided so quickly.
I remember reading SO many times that,
if treated promptly, Serotonin Syndrome often results in NO NEUROLOGICAL SEQUALAE.
This simply means that if supportive care is given quickly, such as lowering body temperature and withdrawing the 'offending' medications....possibly supporting electrolyte and kidney function....that MOST patients will NOT have serious long-term effects.
GREAT, for them.
Time and again I saw this in medical studies of SS.
"If everything goes well"...
MDMA is special.
It causes a prolactin release that takes WEEKS to occur with SSRIs!
And it does this in an
hour and a half...
Ok.
I think I have said enough.
It should be clear that SS is not just a 'short' and brief condition, and that it CAN lead to long-term and SERIOUS neurological side-effects.
In other words, it can destroy your soul.
If such a thing exists, I believe it arises from the connection between the body and mind.
And the intestines are wired straight into your
highest cognitive pathways.
This is the circuitry that MDMA relies upon for its massive and 'magical' effects.
Here is an example of an SSRI causing SEVERE 'neurological sequalae' in a single dose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_4gLZrqlik
Two minutes in he describes waking up the first morning after his first dose.
He knew 'immediately that I had poisoned myself from taking the Lexapro...my life was forever changed, looking back it appears as if I had had a severe reaction known as Serotonin Syndrome..."
Damn.
Be careful with MDMA.
Respect it.
And listen to those who spend their precious time, during the hardest time of their lives, warning those willing to read these threads on BL.
Surely the youtube video, and mine and Papoose's story, are the exception not the rule.
But doesn't our experience, and ALL the research on MDMA, prove that
something bad is happening to everyone that uses MDMA?
Even if they don't sense it?