The Big & Dandy AMT / αMT Thread - 4th Rush

[nuke]

With 20mg of the freebase (165 lb female): "I took it at a festival late in the afternoon. It took approximately 2-3 hours to come up on. No nausea was noted with myself or my partner who also consumed it at this dose. During the peak I experienced tremendous mydriasis first noted by my partner. The effects would best be described as stimulating but simultaneously mellow, a feel-good drug with all the virtues of a stimulant like cocaine and none of the downsides. No obnoxious ego inflation, but at the same time, none of the irrating, forced "loved up" feelings of MDMA. Just controlled euphoria and easygoing conversation with most anyone. Mild visual aberrations were present, such as waviness, colour enhancement, and the constant twisting and curling of trees in the distance. The effects came in waves, with some moments feeling completely sober and others very not. Dancing was a blast, although hyperthermia seemed to come easy with exertion and I was awfully sweaty. Nonetheless, I danced for hours. The morning came and I hung out with some people I vaguely knew; one of them was a male who kept hitting on me, while the other was some guy abusing cocaine and being obnoxious. On LSD or mushrooms I probably would have been incapable of dealing with these annoyances, but on AMT they seemed about as bothersome as they would be sober. Altogether, there was no point on my trip where I felt any loss of control and my body felt very safe the whole time. Some 18 hours after dosing I fell asleep, and woke up 12 hours later feeling refreshed but with a headache. No other downsides to speak of; in fact no other downsides to speak of for the entire experience. It was pretty much all positive."

 

[hexagram]

took about 40mg last night and it was way, way more psychedelic then I was expecting. I heard most people describe the experience as just like milder mdma with mild visuals. Instead I had moments where I was almost lost in the stars and the music I was listening too, I was having visions, I was analysing myself and the world around me deeply and trying to gain something from the experience. The only other psych i've done is 25i-nbome, which had stronger visuals but this had much, much more of a spiritual head trip.

In fact, doing amt makes me feel much more ready for a stronger psych, I feel like I could handle LSD now. How does LSD compare to AMT? I did the amt alone and I think that's what helped me focus on the 'psychedelic' side of the drug.

 

[psood0nym]

^If you liked the psychedelic effects of aMT and are look for more then you are ready for a more forward psychedelic. LSD will have less of the swimmy empathic body euphoria that aMT's monoamine release engenders but substantially more cognitive and spiritual effects, as well as visuals and some more ego dissolution.

 

[Toucan]

aMT is mystery to me, it felt more euphoric than MDMA, no nausea. lasted ages with redosing. this amazing almost relaxing feeling.
no comedown whatsoever...
I am a fan

 

[hexagram]

actually I forgot to mention, i've also done k-hole dose ketamine, in which I experienced total ego death. I didn't know id it counted though as it's a dissociative rather than a 'true' psychedelic.

But yeah I definitely feel ready for lsd now, next week I'm getting hold of some.

 

[pofacedhoe]

I was particularly interested in whether this could be a club drug, ie could i drop this, go to a club and be in a clear mind (know what im doing) and want to dance and be social (make new friends) if you get me.

to me it makes me feel a lot floppier than mdma. lots of nausea and club toilets= looking at the arse acorns of others for an hour or two

 

[5HToInfinity]

In terms of getting the most intensity out of the least amount of material, is smoking AMT worth it? Or is it preferable to just eat it?

 

[Morpheus19]

In terms of getting the most intensity out of the least amount of material, is smoking AMT worth it? Or is it preferable to just eat it?

Depends on what you mean by intensity. Regarding a more speedy, bodyload-centred experience, you'd get more out of it smoked. IMO the oral route is the way to go in terms of the empathic and psychedelic qualities.

 

[lauren12k]

What exactly are the effects of AMT? What setting would be best to take for a first time? Any risks such as body overheating, dehydrating etc.?

 

[omgzzz]

aMT is a stimulant and psychedelic. A rough timeline for me for an oral dose would be something like T0-2 stimulant/speedy comeup, T2-4/5 mdma like feelings with some sort of psychedelic mindset, then T4/5 to T8-14 of psychedelic with way less euphoria than before. It seems every hour on this drug is different then the last hour as it constantly changes. It also seems to linger a while too, making it a long one.

I found taking it at home was a good setting for myself, I have been wanting to take it at a small festival setting though. Not really a club/party drug imo.

Yes there is a risk of overheating, dehydrating, etc. Really you would have to take a big dose like 100mg plus and or be doing something physically strenous, comboing it with stimulants, not drinking water, for it to be too dangerous. Shuglin talks about eating 80 and 100mg in tihkal.

Erowid has some information here.

 

[psy997]

I agree with the above post ^

First effects felt within 30-60 minutes. From that point to around two hours in, it feels speedy and talkative and euphoric. Around two hours the effects ramp up and it gets much deeper headspace-wise. As said above, MDMA-like, basically empathogenic. Then around 4 hours after dosing, you're looking around and next thing you know you're acutely aware of your body, you start to notice visuals over everything, and then boom, it feels like you're tripping. You trip for a while then come down from the psychedelic headspace into a mix of the usual post-trip headspace and speediness.

You won't sleep for at least 15 hours after dosing without a depressant.

I took 50mg and was satisfied at a state natural park. If I did it again I'd go higher, but I never had thoughts of wanting it to be stronger.

 

[Spacemonkey5000]

Any idea how long amt freebase lasts in room temp?

i have a baggie with 250mgs left and dont know when i will ever get to urge this again...

I did 50mg once which was very nice, but it was super intense stimulant feeling with major visuals and left me feeling cracked out for 2days afterwards.

 

[MrPorter]

I had a baggie in a drawer nothing special done to it which didnt seem to lose potency at all for about a year, still have it but haven't used. Freebase.

 

[omgzzz]

Ive had some freebase in an amber vial for 3 or 4 years now. Took some 1.5 years ago at my usual dose and it was plenty active. I did notice a change in apperance of the material in the first year or so. It went from a light beige and smelly to a darker beige/yellow and to a slightly different smell (although still pungent in a similar fashion to when i first got it). It has been stored at room temperaure in a mostly dark drawer for a vast majority of the time.

I suspect that it has be degrading, but not super fast and it is not really dose noticable.

 

[Kapitan.Crunk]

hey guys long time lurker first time poster, So about a year and a half ago or so i got half g of this stuff along with sum etzi pellets from a uk source (i am located in canada) so i dosed on this chem several times mostly low dose stuff.

I found the effects to me felt almost a combo of an mdma type feel mixed with almost a mild mushroom like distortion of the visual field with basically no trace of a mind fuck, ie. my thoughts were completely clear no classic mushroom mind confusion.

The last experience with this was what i felt as a large dose 85 - 90mg ( if i remember correctly i was having a bad day and wanted to get nice and buzzed) anyways i railed 30mg and then shortly after possibly +15-30min i orally ingested the remaining 55-60mg and the trip that followed did not seem to greater much in intensity but lasted well into the 24hr+ range of total duration. i found i was able to sleep perfectly fine while on this and when i awoke the next day the visuals continued into the afternoon and it overall would have to be the longest single drug experience( ie. did not re dose except for the splitting the dose between a line and a drop) that i have ever experienced.

the remainder of the amt i had was stored away. but i was living with my parents at the time and my father must have came across the container i had stored away as i have not been able to find it again. ha but thats life.

all n all they were alright experiences, but i wouldnt really put this in any list of my top substances. within the next week i will be trying out O-Acetylpsilocin and will also be getting sum mephadrone, these will be completely new to me and should prove interesting i hope.

Just to add i have tried smoking doses of amt up to 15mg of amt freebase in a meth pipe. i have never felt anything more then a slightly anxious feeling from smoking amt and honestly it has to be one the most awful things i have ever had in my lungs.

 

[valerio6324]

first post amt

Hi first time posting on blueghlight woop woop, gotta say this is an awesome community, seems everyone is looking out for each other take solace in the fact that you have probably helped thousands of drug users to be safer, id say you guys have probably saved a few lives with the info you guys put out. Anyway id like to put in my 2 cents about amt, i think its fantastic your trippin balls but in a sound headstate so you can rationally think about your trip plus the amazing buzz sorta acts as a shield against bad vibes its definatly not the most mindblowing psychadelic, but its great to have a trip where you can just sit back and purely enjoy the visuals and the body feeling without the minfuck, great starting out psychadelic one my favs, may not be deep but hell its just another take on psychadelia which im sure if u opened your mind to it youll realise that there something amazing about how you can just enjoy it purely with no freaking out one of the best psychs in its own respect. peace out love what you guys are doin i hope to participate more actually im taking amt this weekend might wright a wee trip report if you guys are interested signing out. keep it real.

 

[krrl]

How do you guys feel about eating while on αMT? I mean it rather by the end of the trip, naturally.

I did not have any stomach discomfort or nausea at around 30 mg (oral), which was surprising, since my stomach is normally very sensitive and I have had a history of ulcers (now healed) and gastritis. At some point (T+4h or so) I felt like I should eat a bit, and I tried eating an apple, which had a chemical-like after-taste, so I gave it up. However, eating a boiled egg at T+10h proved to be VERY satisfying.

 

[Achten]

Eating a few hours into the trip always goes well for me. T+4h is a bit fast but at T+6h/T+8h I always go for an apple/banana/nuts/dried fruits.
I try to have a decent meal before going to sleep after aMT.

 

[Limpet_Chicken]

I'd avoid beta blockers on AMT!

Beta blockers are a no-no on vasoconstrictive adrenergic stimulants, due to a paradoxical vasoconstriction effect when there is a large amount of circulating (nor)adrenaline in the body, and one blocks the beta-adrenoreceptors. The (nor)adrenaline has nowhere left to go, but alpha receptors, which causes significant vasoconstriction.

 

[《Plasticity》]

I'm sure this has been asked but I just don't have the time to read through it all. What would the dose be for plugging if 40-50mgs oral is my sweet spot. I don't want lowball "just to be safe" doses as Im fairly experienced and this seems to be a really forgiving substance. but an equivalent. I have the FB btw and i plan on dissolving it with water, adding drops of vinegar until it's dissolved. I seem to be one of the people who violently vomit on the comeup and I'm hoping plugging would be a viable solution but are the effects different between the two roa's? Personal experiences would be great