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Tryptamines [DMT Subthread] Injection

I can't give much other information, but a search turned up the following:

"We gave the drug intravenously (IV) , rather than intramuscularly (IM), as had been the case with older studies in which DMT was given to humans. This was because our early pilot work with DMT smokers demonstrated that the IM route gave an effect that was slower in onset and less intense than the smoked route."

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/dmt03.htm
 
There are some TiHKAL entries on the matter:

(with 15 mg, intravenously) "An almost instantaneous rush began in the head and I was quickly scattered. Rapidly moving and intensely colored visuals were there, and I got into some complex scenes. There were few sounds, and those that were there were not of anyone talking. I was able to continue to think clearly."

(with 30 mg, intravenously) "I was hit harder that I had ever been when smoking the stuff. The onset was similar, but the euphoria was less."
 
Make sure that you in fact have a salt (HCl) rather than the freebase form for smoking. Past that, I know little more than what is listed in tihkal.
 
Whatever you do make sure you have somebody else administer the needle because if you start tripping with the needle still in you (which is very possible) you could do some very serious damage to yourself.
 
You must also make sure that the DMT is as pure as pure can be, if there is ANY plant matter left in the solution, that will be injected and it could make you very very sick...fungus and germs will start to grow inside you and you could end up a sad man.
 
Trogdor said:
^ I was under the impression that fungus and bacteria could not survive in the 13+ ph NaOH solution required in the extraction of the material from its natural sources?
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You'd be surprised what bacteria can survive, but even if they do die, your veins can't handle 13+ph liquid either, so you're going to have to bring the pH down before ingesting....and once you do that, it's open season for bacteria breeding.
 
^^ Yea but the same applies to injecting anything in general. Just be sure to use sterile material.

Your DMT should be an orang-ish salt crystal.
 
i wouldnt suggest using extracted DMT for injection because there may still be some byproducts left behind.
Only do this if you have lab synthed DMT.

Also psychubus, the DMT i have worked with has been white crystals. Almost reminds me of the way DOC looks.
 
Your dmt should not be orange, but if it is just smoke it. Don't inject plant extracted unless you have recrystalized several times. Washed it with carefully with sodium bicarb solution. And converted it to the hcl salt.

I have heard fairly knowedgeable people claim to have gs/msed their plant extracts and found them to be 95+ pure with impurities composed of other tryptamine compounds. This is after recystalizing 4 times as well as washing several times with great loss of yield.
 
Don't inject orange dmt, please. Any color other than white means impurities.
 
^^
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dmt_summary1.jpg

Color photo of a pile of DMT crystals extracted with Naphtha.
Photo by Bucwheat. © 2000 Erowid.org

ok even if it isnt orange its still good dmt but i think orange is one of the colors it can be

that and, i know of some people who dye their rc's so they can more easily distinguish one from another. in which case eracism baby love all the colors of the rainbow lol
 
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u better be damn sure you have pure hcl and not a plant extracted mess of various fats and petrolium distillates
 
no plant worries my friends. if i actually do decide to venture down this road, i have a source for lab synth. as far as the dissolution of the product goes, will the salt dissolve naturally in water?
 
Your IM material will need to be neutral, i.e. @ PH 7.

With tartaric acid you can bring the ph down of PURE WHITE RECRYSTALLISED DMT (whether from natural source or synthetic) to 7 with a ph meter, and use make sure to absolutely distilled h20, preferably sterile water for injections.

Tartaric acid is good, because it is a pure acid source, and you don't need much to bring down the ph...

IM DMT on its own is next to useless... too much blood pressure.

A poor quality experience compared to say smoking.

Ditto for IV DMT... which doesn't come on as fast as it could... but still fast enough.

The visual acuity and overall integrated vastness just isn't there...

I've done IV 5meo as well... same story.

The quality of experience is just nowhere near as good as smoked DMT.

So Shulgin's understanding of DMT is largely based upon a synthetic material administered IM/IV, which seems to me to give a rather distorted and poor quality to smoking or ingesting DMT orally.

I am told combining IM DMT and IM K is about as good as anything ever gets... and seems to have very little addictive properties, appears safe and has all the benefits of both materials.

Try 120mg K first, then 30mg DMT

or

100mg K - 50mg DMT

Be careful and safe der kiddieschooners...


Julian.
 
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first of all iv'ing 120mg of k is relatively pointless, a waste of k, and with a dose that high you're likely to not remember your trip. second, if you iv k, you will not be able to hit again with another iv immediately afterwards unless you're a super pro, and even then it's most likely to miss (you just wont realize it cause you'll be too k'ed out). if anything you should mix the dmt with the K if you plan on taking them together. third, i find that my hallucinations were actually STRONGER and more visual with IM k than with IV K; probably because it comes on too strong with IV K, that most of it ends up getting blocked off in the memory. last, iv k is about as addictive as it gets (for me anyway). once i take the first dose, i dont quit until the vial is EMPTY.

i too have injected 5-meo but i did this in combination with cocaine, oxy, and k (what a coincidence). from what i remember it added hallucinations to the ketamine trip (the main focus of my trip).

If you ever get ahold of DPT, do an IM shot with K--you'll be doing yourself a huge favor :D
 
if ya gots yella crystal, ya gots admixtures sure to affect the morphogenesis unfolding - get the white or go home.
 
^ what nanobrain said.

And psychubus, that picture you posted is, as labeled, extracted from plant sources. It doesn't say that it is pure DMT. Pure DMT is white. Here's a picture from the gallery that shows what good DMT is supposed to look like:

pured.jpg
 
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