Zopiclone

[dinomax]

I Started to take Zopiclone (7.5mm Tablets obtained from the net as my Doctors & contacts refused to give me these pills and warned of what could happened if mixed with aclohol). I suffer from tinitus in my left ear which was causing sleep deprevation (hence the pills). I do tend to drink a lot of alcohol during the day so this mix wasn't the greatest idea I've ever had.

I am 38 years old, male (85kg), pretty healthy and strong.

I strongly do NOT recommend taking these pills for any duration over a week and certainly not even considering alcohol for the next two weeks afterwoods.

I was taking one 7.5mm pill nightly and drinking average amounts of Wine, Cider and Beer during the daytime

After a month of this mix woke at 04:30 last week with extreme tremours and hot cold body temp fluctuations. forehead and face looked like hell, almost toxic and alergenic. I knew something was very wrong. I hadn't taking any pillls for over five days but was still drinking daily.

08:00, I called my doctor who was not much help at all and told me to go to Emergency and make some sugared black tea in the meantime

I made a tea and started to walk to my front room, I WOKE UP AN HOUR LATER ON MY BACK AND STARING AT THE CEILINE, I had collapsed and covered in tea, my back hurt like hell and I had a golfball sized lump on my left arm (from I guess from hitting the TV stand). If it had been my head that hit that solid wood stand I would be DEAD (no if's or buts about it).

I was shortly in hospital Emergency with a fractured Back and on Oxygen. I then went into
complete arrest and had what they are calling a seizure FOR OVER HALF HOUR. It was close.

I have no previous seizure history and have never fainted or passed out EVER.

Zopiclone are fabulous tablets to assist sleep (apart from the metalic aftertaste) but DO NOT DRINK ANY ACLOHOL with them if you have been taking them for over a week.

I hope this helps somebody and stop anyone getting hurt.

If you want anymore advice about these tablets PM on [email protected]

 

[asecin]

Zopiclone are the best fucking pseudo benzos i have ever tried. They beat any true benzos by a huge margin.
Too bad prude americans and most westerners in fact do not get access to them, but I strongly recomend them ! They seem to be offshoot of the zolpidem chemical but have way mellow more different effect. Anyway, not as deadly as true benzos which can be a nightmare !
Strongly recomended if you prudes (americans) have a way of actually getting a hold of them, DO SO and abandon your lame pills that your lame ass doctors offer you !

 

[danceofdays]

Zopiclone is a weird one, I used to never try and stay up on 'em but now I do most of the time. It's a fun buzz that's in-your-face but I tend to do irrational things (like last night, I managed to smoke more than a gram of kush after it kicked in, as well as walk to Tim Hortons and order a bunch of danishes and donuts and shit).

The one time I drank and took it after, I experienced vaguely psychotic symptoms, hearing voices, thinking about really weird shit, feeling very out of it in general. It seemed like I was dreaming while awake, almost. Sorry that this happened to you, honestly it makes sense given my limited experience.

 

[jaygaluszka]

I could swear that Zoplicone was the one without benzo's? It's Zoplidom that contains benzo's (Ambien)... But I agree... Zoplicone is a weird one period.. is can affect you one minute and do nothing the next... at least for me IMO

 

[Chaos Butterfly]

shifting to Other Drugs from Homeless threads.

 

[BIGsherm7272]

I could swear that Zoplicone was the one without benzo's? It's Zoplidom that contains benzo's (Ambien)... But I agree... Zoplicone is a weird one period.. is can affect you one minute and do nothing the next... at least for me IMO

neither zolpidem (ambien) or Zoplicone are benzos......the are z-class sedative hypnotics, and work on similar receptors as benzos, but are classified as non-benzodiazepines.

Zopiclone are the best fucking pseudo benzos i have ever tried. They beat any true benzos by a huge margin.
Too bad prude americans and most westerners in fact do not get access to them, but I strongly recomend them ! They seem to be offshoot of the zolpidem chemical but have way mellow more different effect. Anyway, not as deadly as true benzos which can be a nightmare !
Strongly recomended if you prudes (americans) have a way of actually getting a hold of them, DO SO and abandon your lame pills that your lame ass doctors offer you !

And what does being prude have to do with any of this? Sorry we have better sleep aids such as eszoplicone (lunesta), Temazepam (Restoril), and hypnotic benzo agents such as triazolam.

Eszoplicone is better than zoplicone anyways, with less side effects.

And I'm guessing your canadian.

 

[SkagKush]

i was under the impression that zopiclone (which i have) was a sort of a cousin to benzos

 

[BIGsherm7272]

i was under the impression that zopiclone (which i have) was a sort of a cousin to benzos

Well while it acts on similar receptors as benzos, it is a non-benzodiazepine sedative hypnotic......but to be honest they are pretty similar to benzos and can produce nasty withdrawal symptoms.

 

[Dr_F]

....Sorry we have better sleep aids such as eszoplicone (lunesta), Temazepam (Restoril), and hypnotic benzo agents such as triazolam.

Eszoplicone is better than zoplicone anyways, with less side effects.

I was scripted eszopiclone (Lunesta) for several years, my doc would alternate it with zolpidem (Ambien).... I'm quite curious, as the internet buzz is all about the zopiclone.... does its stereoisomer Lunesta truly have less side effects? Because Lunesta used to produce the most horrid metallic taste in my mouth, so bad I could taste it the next morning... and if one were to ingest a dairy product such as icecream or milk, it was by orders of magnitude worse! Hell, even water tasted awful

To the OP, although the "z drugs" are NOT technically benzos, they ARE hypnotics and as stated act on many of the same receptors...

It is my understanding that they are cross-tolerant with booze and "real" benzos [IMO, the REAL BENZOS are the hypnotic ones such as midazolam (IV, not p.o. %) ), temazepam, nitrazepam, etc. :D ].... thus if you drink a lot and take a med that is cross-tolerant, albeit incomplete cross-tolerance I believe, that could explain your symptoms....

-Faust ^---^

 

[axe battler]

You were taking the pills for over one month then stopped abruptly. This can happen with ANY benzo, non-benzo, even alcohol: anything that stimulates your GABA receptors (why alcoholics should have benzos and an 'emergency drink' on hand if quitting booze).

Original Post - If you're going to quit anything like this again, do it gradually.

The kid calling everyone prudes - Everyone likes different gear man. I find benzos more fun than zopiclone, which turns me into a gibbering moron when I drink with it.

 

[phatass]

i hate Zopiclone personnally, it didn't help my insomnia one bit .. but i agree that over time, consuming alcohol everyday with any Z-drug, benzo, barb, can be very dangerous for a large variety of reasons

good post OP

 

[SkagKush]

i hate Zopiclone personnally, it didn't help my insomnia one bit .. but i agree that over time, consuming alcohol everyday with any Z-drug, benzo, barb, can be very dangerous for a large variety of reasons

good post OP

learned from exp

 

[Willy31]

Here's a post I wrote from a well-known and comprehensive drug website. I wrote it years ago.....Here in Australia, zopiclone is sold as Immovane. My dad does a lot of travelling and was given a prescription by his doctor. I was going through a fairly rough period of my life at this stage, and I was drinking excessively and smoking a lot of weed and taking other stuff whenever I could afford it. Anyway, one day I found dad's Immovane and checked out dosages on the net. They were 7.5 mg tablets and I figured it was (relatively) safe to take all nine tablets that were there (for a total dose of 67.5 mg)

Well, put it this way, it's an experience my parents would rather forget. As for me, it barely matters because I can't remember it anyway. I remember popping the nine tablets, then watching some television. After this, all i have is two memories. This is no shit. I have had (like most people) memory loss attributed to booze, but nothing like this. My two memories were of snapping a comb in half, apparently because I was really angry, and at talking to my (now ex) girlfriend on the phone, aggressively asking her about her past.

That's the interesting point I want to make about this drug, zopiclone. It's a sleeping tablet, but an excessive dose (67.5mg) did NOT send me to sleep. In fact, I took them about 7:30 pm and didn't go to bed until 2:00 am. During this time I threatened my family, threatened my girlfriend, worried my parents to the point of my mum ringing the police (only to be told that they couldn't do anything unless I actually hurt someone or did some damage) my parents also had to disconnect the phones to stop me making phone calls, hide the car keys cause I was threatening to drive, lock up the bikes because I wanted to go for a ride, and I also confessed everything to my parents about my previous drug use, which included a confession about IV drug use. I don't remember any of this, I was told about it the next day. Apparently, I told my girlfriend I 'felt like my head was gonna explode.'

So, there, that's the tale. Also, the next day was hazy and lethargic, and all food/drink had a metallic tang to it (a common side effect I've since read about).

 

[Tryptamite]

The reason Lunesta (eszopiclone) exists is because zopiclone was a generic medicine available cheaply and some big pharma company wanted a drug they could patent and push.

no studies have been done regarding racemic s,r-zopiclone versus s-zopiclone but it is thought that the r-zopiclone is totally inactive.
A standard dose of zopiclone is 7.5mg, whereas a standard dose of Lunesta is 3.75mg.

I would not expect eszopiclone to have less side effects or to be any different than regular zopiclone, except stronger on a weight for weight bases.

 

[Tryptamite]

67.5mg is an excessively high dose. I took a similar dose in an attempt to sleep during methadone WDs and it made me act in a similar fashion. Ie dangerous.

People abuse them here in those high doses in an effort to achieve that kind of effect. Ridiculous.

 

[T1gersxjaw]

I take lunesta, and it is one of my absolute favorite pills of all time. I take the 3mg, and its really all i need, even though I've been on them for a few years. I love them because if you stay up a little while it gives you a really nice buzz, its strange, almost like a lesser benzo buzz with more euphoria? And by the time I hit that point, I'm comfortably in bed and I just enjoy watching tv until I feel good enough to fall asleep. Great drug. I've also been snorting them lately. I should probably stop that, but it gives a really strange rush. I honestly prefer them oral.

 

[dingophone]

I personally didn't care for Lunesta much. It worked better for me than trazodone (made me anxious during the day) or diphenhydramine (made me feel retarded all the fucking time) but the daytime sedation was just too much to handle. I discontinued it pretty easily (was just taking it as needed, which I strongly recommend over daily dosing) and switched over to zaleplon, which is just a truly amazing hypnotic.

 

[Willy31]

67.5mg is an excessively high dose. I took a similar dose in an attempt to sleep during methadone WDs and it made me act in a similar fashion. Ie dangerous.

People abuse them here in those high doses in an effort to achieve that kind of effect. Ridiculous.

You're spot-on, ridiculous is the right word. If I had known it would have effected me like it did, I would not have taken them. I'm surprised people take doses like that to achieve that effect. It was crazy and I feel for my folks and ex-girlfriend. Never again.

 

[Akillezz]

Zopiclone is only drug which helps me with my chronic insomnia. It´s no bentzo. I believe that these are called Z-drugs and belong to cyclopyrrolones but it act´s similarly on GABA as regular benzos. In time your tolerance will rise and you will get addicted to this like to any another benzodiazepine drug. Here in finland its has brand names IMOVANE, ZOPINOX etc. We do not have LUNESTA here. When zopiclone is a racemix - left and right stereoisomers - Lunesta anotherhand is made only rightside stereoisomer called eszopiclone. This is as good sleep aid, but do pauses least 2 times a week so youre in safeside. This is a horrible drug to wihtdraw/kick. I tell this from my own experience. I clean of it now, thank god.