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Opioids Your opinion on IVing for the first time

LadyOpioid

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I have never shot up anything. I had a friend who does oxy's and got me doing them. And we both got a 30mg Roxy. It was my idea to iv it so I went and got us a needle.. He did his and when it was my turn I started crying. lol.. Idk I was just wondering if someone could give me some advice w/ their first experience IVing and getting up the courage to do it. I have tried many things, some just once, others maybe a couple times. (i told myself I wanted to try everything once) I take lortabs on a regular basis. (everyday because I looove them and im addicted) also do roxys as much I can. They are really expensive and I cant pay 25-30 a pill everyday. I get a good feeling taking just 2 10mg lortabs. So, if yall can give me some of your experiences the first time you shot up and how you got the courage to do it, It would really help me alot! Thank you!
 
Don't do it please. It sounds like you just started doing opiates. Do not IV them. Ask most IV users and they will tell you it is very possible your life will change from then on out. I have used lots of opiates recreationally by eating them or sniffing them for many years and never even thought about IVing due to the consequences of permanent addiction. Also, when you eat an oxy your body absorbs A LOT of it (80-90 percent) so IVing an oxy will be almost pointless as the bioavailablity it so close other than it hitting faster. If you want that just waste it and sniff it or better yet, plug it. Your gut was right. Do not IV opiates and make it clear to your friend you do not want to do it ever.
 
Don't do it please. It sounds like you just started doing opiates. Do not IV them. Ask most IV users and they will tell you it is very possible your life will change from then on out. I have used lots of opiates recreationally by eating them or sniffing them for many years and never even thought about IVing due to the consequences of permanent addiction. Also, when you eat an oxy your body absorbs A LOT of it (80-90 percent) so IVing an oxy will be almost pointless as the bioavailablity it so close other than it hitting faster. If you want that just waste it and sniff it or better yet, plug it. Your gut was right. Do not IV opiates and make it clear to your friend you do not want to do it ever.

This ^.

Not to mention, you never mentioned getting a wheel filter, you just said you got a syringe. I hope you're not planning on shooting a bunch of fillers and binders into your vein..
 
Get up the courage to do it? You got that backwards.

It takes courage not to do it and save yourself from a life of misery as a result of that one action.

Read the litany of threads/posts on this site about IV drug use and see how much is positive...

That should pretty much tell you everything you need to know.
 
Besides putting cottin in it I really dont even know what to do. i know you use lighter but i dont even know why your suppose to do that. I would have someone that knows already how to do all that to do it for me... But I just wanted to feel the rush and nodding that i see ppl do when they shoot up.. I just snorted 3 10mg oxycodone which equals a 30 and im feeling good but ive just always wanted to feel that rush that you get when you shoot it, just never had the "balls" to do it..
 
Besides putting cottin in it I really dont even know what to do. i know you use lighter but i dont even know why your suppose to do that. I would have someone that knows already how to do all that to do it for me... But I just wanted to feel the rush and nodding that i see ppl do when they shoot up.. I just snorted 3 10mg oxycodone which equals a 30 and im feeling good but ive just always wanted to feel that rush that you get when you shoot it, just never had the "balls" to do it..

Read the IV thread in my signature. That's your first starting point if you're really intent on doing this...

Really, you need someone experienced to show you first hand what to do. There's only so much you can garner from the internet.

And you do not use a lighter. You do not cook your shots, especially pills. That just dissolves all of the inactive ingredients into your shot, things you do not want in your veins.

Also, oxycodone is notoriously a let down when it comes to IV'ing. There is no rush as in the case of heroin or something like hydromorphone.


You also should be using a micron filter if you're going to be IV'ing pills.

And there you go with having "the balls'" to do it again. It doesn't take balls to to do it. It takes balls NOT to.
 
Read the IV thread in my signature. That's your first starting point if you're really intent on doing this...

Really, you need someone experienced to show you first hand what to do. There's only so much you can garner from the internet.

And you do not use a lighter. You do not cook your shots, especially pills. That just dissolves all of the inactive ingredients into your shot, things you do not want in your veins.

Also, oxycodone is notoriously a let down when it comes to IV'ing. There is no rush as in the case of heroin or something like hydromorphone.


You also should be using a micron filter if you're going to be IV'ing pills.

And there you go with having "the balls'" to do it again. It doesn't take balls to to do it. It takes balls NOT to.


Well then i guess I have the "balls" not to do it. & yes someone that has already done it before was going to do it for me but I couldnt do it... It wasnt his idea it was mine to do it for the first time. When you said it was a let down it doesnt make since to me because Ive seen many ppl do it & 10 sec later they start nodding and saying how good it feels (the rush that they get)..
& the lighter... Everyone ive ever seen do it has use a lighter under their spoon?
 
I can do subq and im shots easily but can't imagine hitting a vein.

But anyway buy lots of needles and syringes and sterile wipes (don't reuse that stuff), it's dirt cheap. If you must use pills learn to use micron filters.

How exactly you hit a vein I have no idea.
 
Well then i guess I have the "balls" not to do it. & yes someone that has already done it before was going to do it for me but I couldnt do it... It wasnt his idea it was mine to do it for the first time. When you said it was a let down it doesnt make since to me because Ive seen many ppl do it & 10 sec later they start nodding and saying how good it feels (the rush that they get)..
& the lighter... Everyone ive ever seen do it has use a lighter under their spoon?

Then they clearly have no idea what they are doing. Thats something you see in movies. It is not good HR. You're doing way more damage to your health and veins by doing that.

And yes you will nod and what not from IV'ing oxy, but it just produces an instant onset, far different from a real rush you get from other opiates.

Some people do say they feel a rush from oxy but not many. Especially the ones who have actually done other opiates like heroin. Once you know what that rush really is, oxy is a huge let down.

Also, the oral bioavailability is so high that you're not even getting much more of an increase from IV'ing it. It's taking a shit load of risks for not much payoff.
 
Then they clearly have no idea what they are doing. Thats something you see in movies. It is not good HR. You're doing way more damage to your health and veins by doing that.

And yes you will nod and what not from IV'ing oxy, but it just produces an instant onset, far different from a real rush you get from other opiates.

Some people do say they feel a rush from oxy but not many. Especially the ones who have actually done other opiates like heroin. Once you know what that rush really is, oxy is a huge let down.

Also, the oral bioavailability is so high that you're not even getting much more of an increase from IV'ing it. It's taking a shit load of risks for not much payoff.

Well they might not but then again they obviously seem to be doing something right when they almost throw up because of the rush... I was asking for personal experience of the first time you or whomever has shot up. I wasn't saying I knew what i was doing or anyone else knew.. Just trying to see what it was like for your first time.. I haven't done heroin before but I would like to try it once because Ive heard it was better than any other opiate.. I don't do crystal either dont like how it makes me stay up and not eat.. I just wanted to try shooting it once just to see how it feels.. I really just to tabs and oxys.. But idk i'm fine with just snorting it.. I have a husband and a son so Im not trying to go all out. I like opiates because they give me energy and really i feel like i can do anything.. if i didnt have them for a whole day I feel like Im gonna die and I cant get anything done... And with having a child you cant just sit around feeling like sh*t all day... Now since you said they aren't even doing it right, not sure I want to try it then.. But then again they seem to be doing something right lol
 
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Hon, please don't misunderstand my post as condescending or implying you or your friends are stupid, just want you to understand the reasoning behind why its a bad idea for certain practices. If it saves one person from harming themselves or dealing with the consequences (and their family) then all is good! It is definitely not myintention to be an ass about it...just worried for you.

Girl...before you even continue to consider IVing a pill for Gods sake, make sure you educate yourself more! Firstly, Mr. S didn't say it would not make you nod but it will not give you a rush like you are expecting. The people you see holding a lighter under it and cooking it are very ignorant of the facts. Just because you see them (or those people you see doing it have seen someone doing it that way on TV doesn't mean it is the correct way. And just because they don't use a proper filter and instead use cotton doesn't mean this is the safer and correct way to do it.
And when you snort oxys you are wasting the majority of the drug. The bioavailability when snorting is low compared to just taking it by mouth.
Also, someone above mentioned that they are able to do I'M and SQ shots but not IV, please don't misunderstand and think that it is ok to I'M or SQ pill shots...this is just begging for an abcess and/or infection.

You NEVER heat a pill for IV shot. When you do this it "melts" down all the non drug particles that are in the pill, the fillers and "powder" and non drug parts that are just put there to hold the drug part together. Sure, when you melt them down, it looks like a cleaner shot and like you have gotten rid of all that crap. When you inject that junk into your veins and then it resolidifes into what it was before, pieces of it floating in your bloodstream, it has to go somewhere eventually it can deposit into the tiny areas of your lungs, heart and brain. This can eventually cause your death. It might happen after one shot or it might take the 100th shot, but is it worth that risk? This is also why it is an absolute necessity to use a micron filter rather than cotton.

Not only is cotton a very crude filter but pieces of the cotton itself can get into your injection. Think about having tiny pieces of cotton floating around inside your blood stream..Some of the places that your blood flows to in your body, especially in your vital organs such as heart, lungs and brain have super tiny blood vessels, some of them only as wide as one or two blood cells. So if a piece of a pill or cotton or other junk lodges there of course it will totally block blood flow to that area causing death of whatever part of your body it is in. Enough brain, heart or lung tissue being blocked can eventually kill you.

You also talked about how expensive oxy is but it is going to raise your tolerance greatly once you IV something. When you need more to feel anything it just gets more expensive. It sucks when you can't take that 30 by mouth anymore and feel a thing. And the hydros? Once I started taking more oxy I now cannot get a buzz off of hydros no matter how much I take! And I miss being able to take cheaper, more easily obtained hydros.

So please, read through the threads about all of this and educate yourself before you go there. Everything that Mr. S or I have said will be backed up and reiterated in tons of places here on BL. He has tons of personal experience and in addition I have been a nurse for 20 years (and also a chronic pain patient and drug user).
 
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If you ask a particular question we are obligated to inform you on the harm reduction that has to do with it, even if you didn't ask for that info.

Do not heat your shots. If something is a solid at room temp, then it's going to turn back into a solid once it cools down in your veins, so heating it up just temporarily lets it dissolve but will later cause damage and with prolonged use death.

I got the slightest rush with oxy, but the high was so much shorter that way. Yes you man nod off of less of a dose you would need, but the high is not nearly as long as when you take it orally. So at first I thought it had been worth it, but when I was barely high an hour later I was pissed. Also if you are dependent on them you will start withdrawing so much quicker if you IV it compared to taking it orally.

You also talked about how expensive oxy is but it is going to raise your tolerance greatly once you IV something. When you need more to feel anything it just gets more expensive. It sucks when you can't take that 30 by mouth anymore and feel a thing. And the hydros? Once I started taking more oxy I know cannot get a buzz off of hydros no matter how much I take! And I miss being able to take cheaper, more easily obtained hydros.

Aint that the truth. It's not worth chasing, so if you are going to continue to use I suggest you cut back a lot to let your tolerance go down.
 
As everyone else has said, IV Oxy has no rush. Heroin and Hydromorphone give very strong rushes when injected, but not everyone finds them pleasurable right away. I've only shot heroin once but I was doing a lot of oral OxyContin at the time and have a moderate tolerance. IV heroin made me throw up for a day and a half. I itched like crazy and actually felt pretty dysphoric.

If hydros, which are pretty weak, still make you feel awesome you shouldn't be considering shooting heroin.
 
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Hon, please don't misunderstand my post as condescending or implying you or your friends are stupid, just want you to understand the reasoning behind why its a bad idea for certain practices. If it saves one person from harming themselves or dealing with the consequences (and their family) then all is good! It is definitely not myintention to be an ass about it...just worried for you.

Girl...before you even continue to consider IVing a pill for Gods sake, make sure you educate yourself more! Firstly, Mr. S didn't say it would not make you nod but it will not give you a rush like you are expecting. The people you see holding a lighter under it and cooking it are very ignorant of the facts. Just because you see them (or those people you see doing it have seen someone doing it that way on TV doesn't mean it is the correct way. And just because they don't use a proper filter and instead use cotton doesn't mean this is the safer and correct way to do it.
And when you snort oxys you are wasting the mojority of the drug. The bioavailability when snorting is low compared to just taking it by mouth.
Also, someone above mentioned that they are able to do I'M and SQ shots but not IV, please don't misunderstand and think that it is ok to I'M or SQ pill shots...this is just begging for an abcess and/or infection.
You NEVER heat a pill for IV shot. When you do this it "melts" down all the. Non drug particles that are in the pill, the fillers and "powder" and non drug parts that are just put there to hold the drug part together. Sure, when you melt them down, it looks like a cleaner shot and like you have gotten rid of all that crap. When you inject that junk intto your veins and then it resolidifes into what it was before, pieces of it floating in your bloodstream, it has to go somewhere eventually it can deposit into the tiny areas of your lungs, heart and brain. This can eventually cause your death. It might happen after one shot or it might take the 100th shot, but is it worth that risk? This is also why it is an absolute necessity to use a micron filter rather than cotton. Not only is cotton a very crude filter but pieces of the cotton itself can get into your injection. Does it sound healthy to have pieces of cotton floating around inside your blood stream? Some of the places that your blood flows to in your body, especially in your vital organs such as heart, lungs and brain have super tiny blood vessels, some of them only as wide as one or two blood cells. So if a piece of a pill or cotton or other junk lodges there of course it will totally block blood flow to that area causing death of whatever part of your body it is in. Enough brain, heart or lung tissue being blocked can eventually kill you.

You also talked about how expensive oxy is but it is going to raise your tolerance greatly once you IV something. When you need more to feel anything it just gets more expensive. It sucks when you can't take that 30 by mouth anymore and feel a thing. And the hydros? Once I started taking more oxy I know cannot get a buzz off of hydros no matter how much I take! And I miss being able to take cheaper, more easily obtained hydros.

So please, read through the threads about all of this and educate yourself before you go there. Everything that Mr. S or I have said will be backed up and reiterated in tons of places here on BL. He has tons of personal experience and in addition I have been a nurse for 20 years (and also a chronic pain patient and drug user).

Well I only asked for peoples personal experiences for the first time they shot up.. I cant obviously make myself clear. NO i dont know ANYTHING about shootin up. I will one day whenever I do decide to do it, if that day ever comes.. Ive never seen or heard of anything other than ppl cooking the stuff then stickin cotton in it then shooting it, honestly. I havent ever taking oxy by mouth because of knowing i can snort it and it hits you alot faster unlike lortabs you cant snort (wouldnt consider it because their sooo big and its just stupid) which tabs i just take and it takes me over a hour to feel them.. it sucks.. thats why i snort roxys.. I just wanted someone to tell me how it went the first time they shot a roxy up for the first time.. im not really looking for ppl to tell me that im doing everything wrong because i never said i knew how to do it.. im prob not going to ever shoot up im to scared to, and when ive seen ppl do it it has always seemed like a waist to me.. cause there is stuff left on the spoon.. idk what it is but i have never gotten the shooting up stuff.. Like exactly how to do it, why they do & what to do.. and all that.. all i was wantin to know if how it went for other ppl for their first time. i think i would have asked exactly how and what to do if i wanted to shoot up but im sure if i want to do it so when that time comes thats when ill ask someone how to do it lol... so thanks for all the info but it wasnt what i was even asking... it kinda sounds like your making me sound like im stupid and thats not true. I never said i knew what the hell i was doing. i was simply asking a for a person experience..
 
As everyone else has said, IV Oxy has no rush. Heroin and Hydromorphone give very strong rushes when injected, but not everyone finds them pleasurable right away. I've only shot heroin once but I was doing a lot of oral OxyContin at the time and have a moderate tolerance. IV heroin made me throw up for a day and a half. I itched like crazy and actually felt pretty dysphoric.

If hydros, which are pretty weak, still make you feel awesome you shouldn't be considering shooting heroin.

Hyrdos dont make me feel awesome they just make me feel normal and give me energy, maybe a little buzz.. yes im dependent on them, i didnt want shootin to be the new thing i do everyday i just wanted to try it once and see what it felt like. I dont really get to do them that much because their expensive so thats why i just do lortabs... But it always seemed like they did have a rush because how ppl looked and acted after shootin it... just wanted to get that feeling...
 
Ok, well if you are feeling stupid then that's on you my dear. I made it very clear that I was not implying this.

You are on a harm reduction site. As tommy said, even if you didn't ask for that info when you start talking about incorrect procedures then everyone will feel obligated to try and educate you on correct procedures. It would be irresponsible for everyone to keep their mouth shut and just let you go on in that way. Even if you don't care about it yourself, many others will come along and read this thread somewhere down the line. If they see you talkin about doing it a certain way and nobody said anything then they would assume that its fine. So even if you do not care for yourself it is necessary to make sure the correct way is mentioned.

It sounds a little immature to go on about it and ignore the points the mods made. Sorry if you didn't ask and you are offended. And you can keep repeating over and over your points or "what you have seen" but it doesn't change the facts. It was obvious you "didn't know what you were doing" as you stated so that is why people were explaining...listen to what you are saying...does it make sense? You don't know what you are doing so people explained for info sake and it "makes you feel stupid"...try not to be so defensive.

As far as your question about how it was for peoples first time, not sure at this point what you are asking...was it scary? Heck yes it was scary. Is there regret with it? Most definitely some regrets. How did it feel IV oxy? Very disapointing...tiny rush nothing like I expected. And like someone else said total waste because it only lasted a very very short time. I guess its all in what you want out of it. You said you snort oxys because it hits faster. I personally am willing to wait a bit longer for it to hit (I can wait 30 mins) but then have it last 5 times longer!
 
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We are obviously going to educate you on how to do it since you said that you were close to doing it, and if you are asking how it feels then it seems as though you may be considering doing it in the future, so it's good to know how. I know you said you will ask how to do it if you decide you want to, but sometimes things happen so fast that you don't think to go look up info on how to do it.

As for what is left in the spoon, it's just the fillers they put in the pill to make it stick together. 30mg is a very small amount of powder, so they add stuff to make the pill be bigger and stick together so you are not losing them everywhere and so they can mark them so you know what they are.

As for how it feels (which I answered before) well for me it felt like a just got high on oxycodone after 15 seconds instead of after 30 minutes. It got me higher than normal from that dose, but the peak lasted for only 20-30 minutes, and then I was just moderately high for another hour. It's not like it becomes a different drug when you IV it, and since the high is so much shorter I would stick to taking it orally.
 
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/\..agreed..I just was looking back to see why exactly went down the road of giving advice if your question was how it felt...I too assumed you were seriously considering it or about to do it because you said you went and got "needles". :\

Also, don't feel silly about the crying part..I would think it would be normal when you are about to do something that could possibly end up having life altering consequences...so I'm glad you went with your "gut"!
 
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