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Young teenagers at raves?

I was going to raves at 14-15. Im 30 now.

Maybe some people are just bitter about being old and the kids make them feel even older?

There are some kids who probably shouldnt be there, and then there are some adults who shouldnt be there.....gangsters for example.
 
i mean, i'm 19 and was going when i was 18. there are some girls who are like 15 and i just bug out because since i'm so young.... that makes them even younger! lol bug out.
 
LSDMDMA&9099406 said:
i bounce around like a retard on molly
who cares?
im 17, ill nom nom nom .15-.2 of molly and possibly do stupid shit
ill nom nom nom amps and do stupid shit
but my definition of stupid shit is probably a lot different than yours tbh
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When you describe taking drugs as nomming them you are pretty definitively not mature enough to be doing them. I name 18 as my age for who's allowed in, I'll be perfectly frank in saying that I'm ageist as hell though - there's only one 16 year old I know who I can actually talk to without wanting to club myself. I also do drugs with her so it all works out in the end, no?
 
Im sorry but somebody not enjoying dancing with a load of young people who are spaced out is nothing at all like being racist and I cant believe people are even trying to say it is.

The question is asking for our thoughts on a subject - no answer is right or wrong its about preference.

If your not willing to accept that people are different and allowed their own thoughts on a subject then simply do not post in the thread.

Raves full of young people under 18 are a lot different than raves on an older crowd - I prefer the older crowd.
 
I was raving before I was 16. I am 30 now.

If the event says "all ages", dont fucking complain when you see people who are "all ages". If you dont like it, choose events that are 18 and over. Dont blame people who are "all ages" who choose to go as if they had the problem and not you.
 
They should be 18+ for the simple fact I nearly took a fucking 15 year old home, the lying bitch told me she was 17 and being in a loud cramped hot enviornment fucked up on pills you tend to believe people. It's only when a friend of mine realised and dragged me the hell out of there.

That coulda been bad. if kids wanna rave go do it at a house party or something.
 
I'm 17 myself and went to my first kind of "rave" last weekend, sure we did some molly but at the party were also some people ranging from 15-17 who..well we guess they did got drunk as fuck, then bought dodgy pills, didnt drink water. long story short, at 2 am the whole chillout area was filled with 20 nearly passed out kids just crashing into each other pouring beer everywhere. I found it kinda funny since i was rolling face and just laughed my ass of while watching the most fucked up thing ive ever seen. But yea, its all about responsibilty and if you inform yourself beforehand.

greetings Xayo
PS: First post :)
 
if they can handle themselves, its fine.

you just gotta be able to handle your snicklefritz when your loved up. dance and have positive fun, not negative fun.
 
How about you stop being the creepy old guy at all ages raves and only go to the 19+ ones?
 
Bezonian said:
How about you stop being the creepy old guy at all ages raves and only go to the 19+ ones?
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I agree totally.

Its not like kids should be forbidden from partying just because the old people feel like pervs. If you want to be around adults only, go to parties that are for adults only.....dont complain about people of all ages showing up to an all ages event.

I go to outdoors festivals.....Mutant Fest (Goths/punks in the woods) , Rainbow (hippie) gathering, Burning Man, Moontribe back in the day....we had people of all ages, sometimes people brought their kids, and it was fine. Really, it was fine.

Then again, I dont really like these commercial "raves" that much either.....I was from the desert rave community, and while accusations of elitism might be fair, we tended to look down our noses at really commercial club parties unless they were underground werhouse parties for small donation....regardless of the age group, the quality of the attendees tends to be different and at the outdoor parties and festivals that last days you actually have a sense of community....campfires, tents.....nothing like having a tent at a party for when you meet somebody you like :). Sure beats pissing hundreds of people off when you blockade the restrooms.

At some of these ongoing festivals you see people who are under 10 years old and also people who are over 60. We have an awesome time, better than most people just partying in a club for 6 hours.
 
I'm 17, I have a blast, I control myself and know my limits, I know when I need to chill the fuck down and when I'm rolling too hard. But I'm very mature for my age, though I probably delve the furthest into drugs (I'm very very interested in tripping, and going high dose. My friends aren't so keen on it), I was told I looked and acted about 24 the first nightclub I even went to...
 
Bezonian said:
How about you stop being the creepy old guy at all ages raves and only go to the 19+ ones?
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Lol - so you have turned the debate upside down then.

If your really young and at an 'all ages' rave at what age does a guy become the creepy old guy?

Surely if your an all ages rave you should not be worried about creepy old guys or stupid kids/prostotots etc.

IF you have a problem with ages then you should simply go to events more suited to your tastes/age.
 
depends on the teen,
some 14 years olds are wanna be posers who think they are cool, this pisses me off
ok, yeah i get it your trying to experiment and fit inbut, fuck off
i don't even go to raves, im just talking more about the teenagers i have encounter on facebook, who act like they are ravers because they have been to one event
 
30 now, started raving at 14. The early 90's was a different place. I go to all ages and 21+ parties these days and they defiantly have different vibes to them. I rarely see super young kids out of control, but have way more trouble, and feel far more on edge at the all ages shows. I feel that security is on high alert due to the liability concerns of all ages and i can feel it. The parties i went to when i was younger didn't have that feel, but people openly sold drugs back in those days...

I went to a party last winter that had a permission slip for the under 18 crowd to have their parents sign, it clearly disclosed the event as all aged and that meant 13-60 year olds. It also wanted parents phone numbers so they could be called to verify their permission or pick their child up if it was needed. If I was a non rave experienced parent I would want to know these things, as someone with experience I think i would do what my brother does and go with... If i was under 18, i would hate this as I always lied to my parents about where i was going, etc... But they knew anyway...
 
They have all age raves in the U.S? Even when you go to an 18+ rave it's usually all ages b/c everyone has fakes
 
I think if an underage kid od's and dies at a party it will be made a lot worse by media compared to an adult. But I don't mind all ages, i just mind the problems that can occur
 
Despite the whole PLUR thing and all, it is a bit unreasonable to expect people in their mid twenties to want to party with 14 and 15 year old kids. MDMA may "break down barriers" but even when the barriers are broken down the lack of commonality between people almost a decade apart in age remains. I don't really mind that much, but I'd definitely prefer a rave with people 20+. I don't see how anyone in their mid twenties or older can say they don't mind at all having a large amount of kids present; imagine yourself, a 24 year old, at a rave with 100% 14-16 year olds. Its an extreme example but it goes to show that people probably only tolerate younger attendees because they don't *yet* dominate the scene. A small amount of younger ravers might not hurt the experience but they certainly don't help it.

However, the overcommercialized rave scene is far more of an issue, and is probably a bigger contributing to why a lot of people above the age of 22 dislike all age raves.
 
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Bearlove said:
Im sorry but somebody not enjoying dancing with a load of young people who are spaced out is nothing at all like being racist and I cant believe people are even trying to say it is.

The question is asking for our thoughts on a subject - no answer is right or wrong its about preference.

If your not willing to accept that people are different and allowed their own thoughts on a subject then simply do not post in the thread.

Raves full of young people under 18 are a lot different than raves on an older crowd - I prefer the older crowd.
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Bearlove, I have the greatest respect for your opinions and the work you do here. That said, I was responding to one individual who made a bigoted statement. And, yes, if you generalize a whole class of people you are a bigot.

We're all guilty of it. I have particular feelings about suits. I'm sure there are many fine people in the world who wear suits. I instinctively don't like them so that makes me a clothingist or something. I understand this is a blemish on my soul. I think it's important to make people aware of their bigotry so they can examine it. Usually they don't by justifying their behavior in some way.

If the thrust of the thread is whether or not you like to be with people under 18 it seems to me like that's simple enough to correct. At least around here it's always obvious whether a rave is all-ages or 18+. Don't go to all-ages if you don't like teenagers.
 
It may be true that he was generalizing, but that in no way compares what he was saying to him being racist. You should just apologize for saying it imo and move on.

And let me add (to other comments) - this discussion has nothing to do with the maturity level of some teenagers and everything to do with the FACT that having young teenagers at raves is a HUGE liability. According to the law, if you are under 18 YOU ARE A CHILD. I hated that fact when I was under 18, but come on it's a fact. Children do not belong at raves. End of story.
 
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If you were not raving as a teenager, you must not have been with the in crowd.

I was always a precocious teenager though, a lot smarter and deeper than most of my peers and adult family....I dont know if that sounds pompous, but its absolutely true. I didnt have the same table of contents that most people have, to this day.
 
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