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Yellow Ketaset

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phantomcosmonaut

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I have access to a vial of yellow ketaset. It has ketamine but also has benzethonium chloride, which I'm assuming is why it's yellow. Can I still evaporate off the water and snort this? Will the benzethonium be a problem? Will it evaporate off?
 
Yes and no, benzethonium chloride is a white powder when pure and afaik colorless in solution. They add coloring agents to tinctures as a sign though.

Benzethonium purportedly or possibly has an effect, but it is not well documented or at least people are being very vague about it, I mean Karl Jansen is definitely not a nobody:

According to an article written by Karl Jansen in the Journal of Psychoactive Drugs, Ketalar ® [produced by Parke-Davis] contains benzethonium chloride as a preservative, which may have its own psychoactive effect.
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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ketamine/ketamine_info5.shtml

There is this info but I don't know if it's reliable.

Pharmaceutical liquid Ketamine is sold under various tradenames, notably Ketalar, Ketaset, and Ketamine 500. Different brands can have different effects. For instance, Ketalar contains the preservative benzthonium chloride, which is an anticholinergic agent which counteracts the effects of the brain neurotransmitter, acetylcholine. It has its own psychoactive effects seperate from Ketamine, mainly "delerium" at higher doses. Ketamine 500 contains the potentially neurotoxic substance, chlorobutanol, which has displayed harmful effects in some animal experments
It is not known whether these preservative survive the 'cooking' process when converting liquid K to powder.
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http://www.thegooddrugsguide.com/ketamine/faq.htm

Also the benzethonium chloride may be somewhat neurotoxic. I think it is meant to be used occasionally, not frequently.
 
I read the label just recently, I didn't notice at first because of how small the type is. "Color of solution may vary from colorless to very slightly yellowish and may darken upon prolonged exposure to light. This darkening does not affect potency." So is it the Benzethonium CL or Ketamine HCL which is turning yellow with exposure to light? My best assumption would be the Benzethonium, because if the Ketamine was degrading from the light and changing color, that would affect potency.
 
It could be a color agent but otherwise it's the benzethonium undergoing pH / redox reactions over time, causing it to change. Why worry about it if it's even on the label? While I do agree that it's very unlikely to be the ketamine, let's not forget that tryptamines can undergo color changes in solution which apparently doesn't have to affect potency. Though while that may be acceptable to some of us, it is doubtful to get the go-ahead in pharmacy.

We should also remember that a lot of ketamine is meant for use in animals and people usually care a lot less about subtle modulation of effects and side-effects in animals than in humans, if something does the job rather well otherwise.
And even if it is for human use, like I said: incidental use would probably be fine. Do you expect them to take into consideration our penchant for drug abuse?

I even read that some people find it helpful when trying to hole so who knows, they might have our best interests in mind. ;)
 
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It could be a color agent but otherwise it's the benzethonium undergoing pH / redox reactions over time, causing it to change. Why worry about it if it's even on the label? While I do agree that it's very unlikely to be the ketamine, let's not forget that tryptamines can undergo color changes in solution which apparently doesn't have to affect potency. Though while that may be acceptable to some of us, it is doubtful to get the go-ahead in pharmacy.

We should also remember that a lot of ketamine is meant for use in animals and people usually care a lot less about subtle modulation of effects and side-effects in animals than in humans, if something does the job rather well otherwise.
And even if it is for human use, like I said: incidental use would probably be fine. Do you expect them to take into consideration our penchant for drug abuse?

I even read that some people find it helpful when trying to hole so who knows, they might have our best interests in mind. ;)
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Heh, they probably do. But this is just for curiosity at this point. I guess it doesn't really matter...unless by some chance it means something bad that we don't know about.
 
You'll be fine. Benzethonium chloride has always been in Ketaset.
 
To the best of my knowledge yellow labels (ketaset) originally produced by one company fort dodge has been gone for a long time. Bought out by Wyeth pharmaceutical some time ago. Is OP sure this is real and not the all to common home made licks that have been going around for the better part of 5+ years in the north east. Where someone takes the raw materials ketachloride and mixes it with water and slaps any old printed label on it?
 
It is the fort dodge vial. I know the person who has it and I know how he gets it, trust me there's no way he's making it. They're definitely really vials, but that is odd, I'd like to find out why.
 
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