Xanax pre Oxy or Oxy pre Xanax?

[toobent]

Yeah, ended up falling asleep easily enough, still only got 4 hours because I had to get up for work.

Going to pop 20-30mg of Temazepam tonight (first time trying Temaz), so hopefully it's high enough a dose to knock me out for a good 10 hours because I need to catch up on some sleep.

Any advice on first time Temazepam doses for nice recreational effect plus a great sleep to follow would be much appreciated.

 

[Venrak]

Genrally .5 mg alprazolam is equipotent to 20mg temazepam.

You will not need as high of a dose so as to equal your usual xanax dose, as it is mainly a hypnotic and will have more of a tendency to put you to sleep than alprazolam. Try 150mg.

Onset/time to peak: 0.5-3 hrs; 8-22 hr half life

 

[toobent]

Thanks, V. You're always willing to help.

I've only got 20 x10mg tabs, so I took 60mg 35 minutes ago. Not feeling anything yet. Should I redose another 60mg now, or at least before an hour has passed since first 60mg dose to ensure synergism from both doses occurs?

I played it very safe, despite your recommendations. Truthfully because I didn't want to down 15 pills as the price they cost, and secondly because it is my first time ever trying Temazepam. Though as you know my benzo tolerance (through Alprazolam - 8-10mg for an average buzz) is very high. I should have downed the 150mg straight up, hey?

I hope I haven't ruined my first Temazepam experience

 

[Venrak]

Nah dude, you were fine to start at 60mg, that was my original suggestion, but realized i was being very very cautious given your tolerance. The two staggered doses will only increase your peak time and your come down. Not by much, but it won't detract from your experience.

 

[toobent]

Well. I followed up with 80mg 60 minutes post first 60mg dose. Though I had ate in between, which I think has effected the results as I quite honestly don't feel any of the expected symptoms of a recreational (140mg) Temazepam dose. Either the time elapsed between doses (60-70 minutes), or the full stomach with the second, larger (80mg) dose reduced the expected effects.

I feel a little relaxed, but not even as relaxed as 20mg Diazepam makes me. I don't feel sleepy. Felt/feel no euphoria. Don't even feel particularly anxiolytic, if anything I'm a little distressed - almost to the point I'm considering popping 10-20mg Diazepam or 2-4mg Alprazolam, because I am feeling quite edgy/anxious.

I also feel some sort of opiate withdrawals (or DOMS from training, or still lingering effects from recent flu), as my joints and muscles are aching, and I feel like shit. So I downed a small OC (20mg) dose.

Overall, I think I'm beginning to realize that Alprazolam is the best benzo for my anxiety - almost instant effect that always works. In high enough doses it works for my insomnia, which is what I was hoping Temazepam would do, but if 140mg doesn't have me feeling even remotely sleepy, then I'm best off with the 6-10mg Xanax for insomnia treatment (more cost effective, and more importantly it works).

Though I really need to address this with my Psych because I think I need proper insomnia mediaction; Zolpidem/Stilnox/Ambien, any other suggestions I should discuss with him? My weekly appointment is due early next week, and my insomnia is no longer gradually getting worse it is rapidly increasing in both extent and intensity - I am having successive nights of zero sleep that is adversely affecting my academic performance, not to mention familial and social relationships. Some days, the compounding effect severe sleep deprivation due to my insomnia has on my anxiety results in what would be clinically diagnosed as severe agoraphobia as I am afraid to leave my home.

And this injury that has recently resulted in my dependence on Oxycodone has not helped the situation at all. As I now find myself taking OC absent pain, but suffering withdrawals that only compound my anxiety! And have me in serious discomfort bordering on pain - I'm sure many opiate (ab)users here can sympathize.

Argh! Just typing this post has me panicking as I think about this circular nightmare I am currently living

Breathe, breathe, happy thoughts...there is no impending doom descending upon me.

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated. I am in a state of despair right now, fellow BLers.

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Venrak, you're like a bright shining light of comfort I find solace in on this forum. I can't thank you enough for being here - despite the fact I do not personally know you, and most likely never will have the privilege of meeting you - a calming influence and reassuring voice I find in you, which I need right now.

In all sincerity, thank you, my friend.