I been taking pain pills really bad for the past couple years and I'm trying to get off them they gave me suboxine.. I have major anxiety problem and have to take nerve medication however its very week I use to be on ativan 2 milligrams and I have a very high tolerance of benzo's I just know that I need nerve meds when I take subs.. will I be ok to take 2 milligrams of xanax with the subs? Thru out the day tho just 2 mgs once a day and a total of 8 mgs of suboxine.. I'm seriously stressed help!
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Swimmingdancer
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I'm assuming that you are taking the Xanax without your doctor's knowledge or else you could just ask him/her? As you may know, it can be dangerous to mix opioids (like Suboxone) and benzos (like Xanax) because they intensify each other, therefore increasing your risk of passing out or stopping breathing. But doctors do give low-normal therapeutic doses of benzos to people who are on stable maintenance doses of Suboxone. The best thing to do is take less Xanax than you would normally take. Maybe start with half what you would usually take.
Also are you taking any other meds?
Also are you taking any other meds?
A kid I went to school with died last month from mixing benzos with Oxycontin.
I go to a methadone clinic every day for my dose and I was talking to someone just this week about benzos... The clinic bans all patients there from taking any benzos. They drug test you monthly to make sure. The reason is because a few years back dozens and dozens of people where dying left and right because they were mixing their doses with benzos they got off the street.
So no, it's not a good idea.
If you have anxiety, speak to your doctor. Tell him you don't want an anti depressant, you want something strictly for anxiety.
Some idiot doctor prescribed me Zoloft when I was 16 because I have an endorphin deficiency and also had migraines and fatigue a lot. They made my anxiety soo much worse.
Personally, I don't believe in anti depressants. I think they're awful drugs.
I go to a methadone clinic every day for my dose and I was talking to someone just this week about benzos... The clinic bans all patients there from taking any benzos. They drug test you monthly to make sure. The reason is because a few years back dozens and dozens of people where dying left and right because they were mixing their doses with benzos they got off the street.
So no, it's not a good idea.
If you have anxiety, speak to your doctor. Tell him you don't want an anti depressant, you want something strictly for anxiety.
Some idiot doctor prescribed me Zoloft when I was 16 because I have an endorphin deficiency and also had migraines and fatigue a lot. They made my anxiety soo much worse.
Personally, I don't believe in anti depressants. I think they're awful drugs.
Endorphin deficiency? Where did you come up with that? Definitely not a very well recognized diagnose but I've read something about the subject..
phatass
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quick "cure/treatment" for "endorphine deficiancy" sport? no?
My dad was actually the first person who told me about endorphin deficiencies. He's spent a lot of time researching it since he knows he has it. And I'm almost positive I got it from him because I suffer from the same issues.
Some people don't produce enough endorphins in their brains. So normal activities like running, birthdays, eating, and just everyday life things don't produce the reactions that occur in most people. We don't get the same enjoyment out of most things.. I feel very flat a lot of the time, things that should make me happy just don't... :/ but I'm not sad and I've never wanted to kill myself or anything like that.
It's a relatively new discovery. There's not a lot of research done on it yet. But my methadone clinic also knows about it and talks about it a lot. Most of their patients suffer from an endorphin deficiency which is why they self-medicate with opiates. Endorphins are basically endo-morphine. So opiates are basically the same as endorphins inside your brain.
I think once there's more research on this subject doctors are going to realize that a lot of their patients who were diagnosed as "depressed" and prescribed anti depressants that didn't work really have an endorphin deficiency. And maybe they'll come out with a medication that helps your brain produce more endorphins. In the meantime though I'm on methadone.
Some people don't produce enough endorphins in their brains. So normal activities like running, birthdays, eating, and just everyday life things don't produce the reactions that occur in most people. We don't get the same enjoyment out of most things.. I feel very flat a lot of the time, things that should make me happy just don't... :/ but I'm not sad and I've never wanted to kill myself or anything like that.
It's a relatively new discovery. There's not a lot of research done on it yet. But my methadone clinic also knows about it and talks about it a lot. Most of their patients suffer from an endorphin deficiency which is why they self-medicate with opiates. Endorphins are basically endo-morphine. So opiates are basically the same as endorphins inside your brain.
I think once there's more research on this subject doctors are going to realize that a lot of their patients who were diagnosed as "depressed" and prescribed anti depressants that didn't work really have an endorphin deficiency. And maybe they'll come out with a medication that helps your brain produce more endorphins. In the meantime though I'm on methadone.
Swimmingdancer
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Yeah it's pretty simple really - some people don't have a lot of natural endorphins. For example, if I do some sports, I don't get the endorphin rush that a "normal" person may get. It reminds me, I remember watching a documentary about people who do suspension by piercings and the guy said that when most people do it they get this great almost orgasmic feeling, which masks any pain, but some people just get all pain and no pleasure and hate it. However, note that having low endorphins does not suppose a cause - it's not like that means it's some genetic defect that is untreatable and all you can do is be on opioids forever. It's not a "diagnosis" like a disease, it's just a state of endorphin levels - more like a symptom. Although I'm sure it will probably become it's own disorder eventually so Big Pharma can cash in on it.
Sorry about continuing the off-topic branch of the thread but I wanted to chime in here as it sounded kind of dismissive for people to say "where did you come up with that?" or assume that a quick cure for it was sport - it's really not that simple. For example, I find it exceedingly difficult to get any motivation to even do things like sports/exercise, there is little reward when I do, and it feels painful to me. However I try not to think of myself as "endorphin deficient" as that seems like a disempowering and limiting label. But I do have to be kind to myself and understand that I shouldn't be too hard on myself because I feel things differently from others around me.
Sorry about continuing the off-topic branch of the thread but I wanted to chime in here as it sounded kind of dismissive for people to say "where did you come up with that?" or assume that a quick cure for it was sport - it's really not that simple. For example, I find it exceedingly difficult to get any motivation to even do things like sports/exercise, there is little reward when I do, and it feels painful to me. However I try not to think of myself as "endorphin deficient" as that seems like a disempowering and limiting label. But I do have to be kind to myself and understand that I shouldn't be too hard on myself because I feel things differently from others around me.
Well I took 4 milligrams of suboxione and 3 milligrams of xanax the last couple days.. I feel ok I'm coming off taking handfuls and handfuls of vikes perks oxy's whatever.. it was killing me I don't take a whole 8 milligram strip in a day but I take 1 xanax in the morning one at noon and one before bed I just take the sub before bed unless I feel shitty then I take a little quarter peice
phatass
Bluelighter
àswimmingdancer,,, i did not mean to offend in any way, i just wanted to put that out there because in my case i could self diagnose myself with "endorphine defficiancy" but i know if i get into regular sporting activities (not talking olympic games) just a jog or biking or swim eeryday, i feel like i have more endorphines (it wasn't phrased right) and as i did not know f it was a "recognised" illness of sorts i just wanted to share what works for me.... it's by no means a magik cure, and we all have different brain chemistry
i appologise if i offended it was not my intention, but i am not very "good with words"
i appologise if i offended it was not my intention, but i am not very "good with words"
^ Well that's good that that helps you. Exercise releases endorphins in most people. That's why people can actually get addicted to it.. they get hooked on the release of endorphins they get. But people can self diagnose themselves with a million things. It's usually not a good idea. If you're really concerned that you have some sort of chemical imbalance or deficiency I would see a doctor or psychiatrist.
My dad however did not self diagnose himself... and I have all the same symptoms and it can be passed on genetically so it's very likely I have it and the staff at my clinic agree. And exercise does not help us very much unfortunately because unlike most people it doesn't really produce endorphins for us.
My dad however did not self diagnose himself... and I have all the same symptoms and it can be passed on genetically so it's very likely I have it and the staff at my clinic agree. And exercise does not help us very much unfortunately because unlike most people it doesn't really produce endorphins for us.